So I made a mistake...

[Fyreo3]

Unfortunately this is my first post. Hopefully I can get some help.
I am an elite endurance athlete that started a Deca/Test E cycle 9 weeks ago. I was relying on information from someone who I now consider an idiot. I am having the common issues that a fool would make with this cycle, but hopefully I can correct this and learn from my mistakes.
I have been on a 600 Deca / 500 Test every week routine. After doing the research I should have done before starting I realize that this is bad. I will be cutting down Deca and increasing Test to finish cycle. My libido is gone..... what is sex? Thanks for Tadalafil I can at least look like I am interested.
My other problem is lack of any other supporting chemicals. I now realize that I need AI's, PCT, etc. Unfortunately my source has no clue as to what they are.
Can anyone help me with the steps I need to take so that I dont have any further issues?
Should I stop completely?
I have made some pretty substantial gains, especially without gaining much weight (goal for endurance peeps).
Any help would be much appreciated.

 

[txpistolero]

Find radar or needto!!! Pm them.

The mind wonders and heart wanders

 

[Kobe2444]

find radar or needto!!! Pm them.

The mind wonders and heart wanders

+1!

 

[kc17]

Try to get some cabergoline or prami for ur libido issues , hcg which you will use for a kickstart to your pct , research it a bit so you won't over do it but I will shoot 50 ius twice a week for 3 weeks and start your clomid 2 weeks after your last injection 50mg ed for 4 weeks. Some will do it different but this has work for me in the past , what's done is done , ur libido might be in the tankf for a few months but viagra will help u in the mean time ! Next time do ur homework before following anyone's advise !! Don't feel bad .

 

[stevesmi]

wow i feel for you bigtime.

your endurance career is gonna take a major hit with this situation.

you should probably stop yes, if you stop now then it will take 5-6 weeks for the juice to even get to low levels in your body!!, and you should definately run a PCT. i would get a hold of hcg, HMG, caber, forma/adex, clomid, and support supps like unleashed and post cycle. once you get those on hand then you can go from there.. again I feel for you, you have so much to learn.. i doubt you even know how to mix HCG or have slin pins on hand.. you've gotta get some bac water, extra vials, and slin pins as well. what a mess here. ALWAYS have ancillaries on hand, always.

time is your enemy here, the longer you go without the right ancillaries the more trouble you will have recovering. its a domino effect and it will get worse and worse.

deca should NEVER be run by newbs or guys who don't know what they are doing, you are the latest victim

 

[muscleaddiction]

Find radar or needto!!! Pm them.

The mind wonders and heart wanders

x3...also what Steve said, start getting your hands on some PCT supps and like NOW! You are really heading down a very dangerous path blind...and hopefully that idiot gets what he deserves with Karma or your wrath!!! PM needto and Radar and let them know you PM both of them in hopes one will get back to you very soon...they can get you out of this mess if you move quickly!

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[Fyreo3]

Thanks for the feedback. I really started doing my research, that should have been done in the beginning (I now know). I am trying hard to find the resources for the following. Do you think this will help reduce damage?

Aromasin - immediately until end of cycle 25mg ED
HcG - immediately at 500 iu and 10 days following last pin at 1000iu
Clomid - 1 week after HcG at 150/150/100/50

Any other recommendations?
Obviously this stuff is hard to get, and due to my lack of experience find it hard to send my money to the thousands of online pharmacies. I am also weary of the herbal/legal remedies.

How bad am I going to take a hit in regards to endurance when everything clears my system?
I learn from my mistakes, but this one is really going to hurt me i feel...

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks for the feedback. I really started doing my research, that should have been done in the beginning (I now know). I am trying hard to find the resources for the following. Do you think this will help reduce damage?

Aromasin - immediately until end of cycle 25mg ED (AI check)
HcG - immediately at 500 iu and 10 days following last pin at 1000iu (yes i like, also get HMG if you can)
Clomid - 1 week after HcG at 150/150/100/50 (way way way too much, more bad advice.. in PCT 12mg a day thats it)

Any other recommendations? throw in some natty supps during PCT to help support your body naturally
Obviously this stuff is hard to get, and due to my lack of experience find it hard to send my money to the thousands of online pharmacies. I am also weary of the herbal/legal remedies. thats why you keep it on hand, not wait till you have problems to get. lucky for you that your body is telling you something is wrong so you can do something about it.

How bad am I going to take a hit in regards to endurance when everything clears my system? well if you gained weight obviously you will cripple your times, water weight is a major problem for endurance runners as you know. might as well wear a backpack with a gallon of water on your back while you run. also depending on how fast you recover low T levels from being suppressed will hurt
I learn from my mistakes, but this one is really going to hurt me i feel...

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[Fyreo3]

I hear ya Steve. Luckily my weight has held in check, probably due to heavy training. I have really gained in the upper body, which is one positive out of this situation (had typical endurance upper body). As far as Clomid, I have been seeing it in doses of 50mg. Do you just quarter a pill?
Believe me, I now understand about having it on-hand, and will never venture down this road again. Main reason for starting this was injury recovery and of course to make gains.

 

[dylangemelli]

as an endurance athlete deca was one of the poorest choices you could have made... its too late now but in the future ASK before you make any choices!!

that being said... its hard telling where your prolactin levels are from the deca... you need prami or caber... you can get prami, aromasin and clomid at chemicalneed.com... your pct needs to include the unleashed/post cycle combo and forma stanzol... i would advise hcgeneratr starting NOW... your clomid dose is too fuckibg high... 25 mg on that... please ask as many questions as needed

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[Fyreo3]

Thanks for all the info Steve. Believe me, I will not be in this position again. I will not trust someone else with my body, although this is a trainer. I cannot blame him, I chose to do so.
As far as the clomid... from my research it come in 50mg doses. Do I just quarter a pill to achieve ~12mg?
Fortunately I have not gained any extra weight, and my abilities have improved along with physique. I started this to help with some serious injuries and of course the gains.
Hopefully I can get my hands on this stuff, not as easy as expected. I really hope I can get through this, for I have sponsorships and other dealings depending on my performance.
Thanks for not hammering me too hard, I know I deserve it.

Sorry about repeat post, original post did not show up.....

Thanks Dylan, I will look into the your info.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks for all the info Steve. Believe me, I will not be in this position again. I will not trust someone else with my body, although this is a trainer. I cannot blame him, I chose to do so.
As far as the clomid... from my research it come in 50mg doses. Do I just quarter a pill to achieve ~12mg?
Fortunately I have not gained any extra weight, and my abilities have improved along with physique. I started this to help with some serious injuries and of course the gains.
Hopefully I can get my hands on this stuff, not as easy as expected. I really hope I can get through this, for I have sponsorships and other dealings depending on my performance.
Thanks for not hammering me too hard, I know I deserve it.

Sorry about repeat post, original post did not show up.....

Thanks Dylan, I will look into the your info.

i am an endurance athlete too so i feel for you man... i want to help any way that i can... your not getting hammered because your being humble and understand your mistakes... were here to help you and talking about what you did wrong is not necessary at this point... getting you fixed up and learning from your mistakes is whats important now...

you can get liquid clomid at chemical need and can measure it much easier than in pill form but if you do get the pill form then yes, just take them in portions...

 

[RADAR]

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every one is saying pm me or n2 Thank you so much ,however my pupil Steve answered every thing ,thank you Steve.

 

[ppgfreak]

That's rough man. But listen to the guys on here and take there advise.

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[stevesmi]

every one is saying pm me or n2 Thank you so much ,however my pupil Steve answered every thing ,thank you Steve.

where do you think i learned this stuff from anyway? radar, needto, nelson, ross (when he used to post on here), A LOT of researching sites like drug profiles and using search engines, and many other smart dudes over the years.. and now we got a newer crop of guys like muscleadd, dylan, rickrock and the rest of the new crew coming over. this site is better than ever with good advice.

to the OP, yes as dylan said just break it up.. and you will be fine. yes it was your decision, you trusted your trainer and he let you down. BUT he might not have been aware of your goals who knows. and you did say you got some muscle out of this experience.. now you can go back to running or continue your journey in bodybuilding. gotta decide which way to go. i will say with deca though i would say it took me a long time to get rid of the 'deca gut'.. i went from 7% to 17% body fat over the course of 2 deca cycles. granted i was hitting every buffet in town and obsessed with gaining size and strength.. and it took me a while to get that body fat knocked back down without going crazy and muscle wasting.

 

[Nelson Montana]

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