BigGuns29 said:What are you trying to do, get healthy or get fucked up? your body cant do 2 things at once dude. (figuratively speaking)
Either work out and get big, or smoke some weed and eat shit and get male breasts!!!! Just go rock climbing way up in the mountains and hang off a cliff and light one up, then see what happens. The shit dont go together.
calveless wonder said:LOL
they don't go together......
please.
how many bodybuilders do you know? It's very common practice...helps with workout related nausea, aggression and appetite. as long as its in moderation it doesn't really matter. a very large # of bodybuilders smoke because they don't drink, so they need some type of vyce.
and there is no confirmed studies that weed gives you gyno. that belief came into effect because of a severely flawed and uncontrolled study done 50 years ago.
Screws up my whole diet. I don't drink now cuz if I do I'll end up flipping out and hurting someone or myself. Bud helps me control my "Rage".
Does anyone else not do this to curb it?bigdawg8 said:Does smoking bud affect your results while cycling? I use it to calm me down and not flip out. Thanks,
Its true. I use it for that and sleep. As a matter of a fact I am going to do that now as it is 3am and I can not sleep......goodnight!calveless wonder said:LOL
they don't go together......
please.
how many bodybuilders do you know? It's very common practice...helps with workout related nausea, aggression and appetite. as long as its in moderation it doesn't really matter. a very large # of bodybuilders smoke because they don't drink, so they need some type of vyce.
and there is no confirmed studies that weed gives you gyno. that belief came into effect because of a severely flawed and uncontrolled study done 50 years ago.
fugetaboutit said:How 'bout EATING the weed??? No smoke there! Make some nice pot brownies and you don't even have to inhale. LOL. Seriously though, I think if someone just uses it to fall asleep (like myself sometimes) and perhaps stimulate your appetite a bit, then it's o.k. One cannot be classified as a "potsmoker" or "pothead" when he/she uses it just for those reasons. Were not saying that they smoke all day and all night where it affects their motivation, diet, sperm count, etc. It's o.k. if it's done in moderation and if it's not abused.....and most importantly if the person doesn't lose sight of their goal.
my .02 .
Smoke hash it doesn't give you the munchies at least in my experience. Also gives a wicked head rush.bigdawg8 said:Hell guys, I work my ass off working out. The only problem I guess I have is that I get stoned and get the munchies.Screws up my whole diet. I don't drink now cuz if I do I'll end up flipping out and hurting someone or myself. Bud helps me control my "Rage".
Does anyone else not do this to curb it?
superqt4u2nv said:Smoke hash it doesn't give you the munchies at least in my experience. Also gives a wicked head rush.![]()
bigdawg8 said:Hell guys, I work my ass off working out. The only problem I guess I have is that I get stoned and get the munchies.Screws up my whole diet. I don't drink now cuz if I do I'll end up flipping out and hurting someone or myself. Bud helps me control my "Rage".
Does anyone else not do this to curb it?

i know that was a stretch lol, but dont you think bb's have an addictive personality? plus if someone does have the intilect to make quality fina dont ya think we can have some of the best thc agucultirst around?fugetaboutit said:Yeah, and I don't know about all that....regarding bb's and aas users that have addictive personalities turning to growing hydroponics just b/c they have the smarts at homebrewing their own aas.....a bit of a strrrrrrrretch. However, I do agree with you tboy that after a cycle, it does help with rasing the appetite and makes the "borring" foods tasty again!
Mavy said:A night of weed for me .. is a relaxing night. I will relax, spark a joint, then get in a huge cooking zone, usually BBQ. The appetite thing is good if you cook some good shit. Then its just a matter of veggin out, and watchin a few movies, and relaxing, then boning my chick, cause boning high freakin rocks.
Cheers,
Mavy

terrapin said:Performance enhancing drugs are one thing, Recreational drug use is on a completely different boat IMO.
Performance enhancing drugs ARE recreational drug use - there is no difference. Just because you get muscular from one and munchies on the other doesn't mean you can distinguish between the two. i would argue that casual aas use can be far more detrimental to your health than casual pot smoking.
I'm not sure which side of the fence I'm on.......for the most part, when I smoked, it made my anxiety skyrocket. I smoked to try and GET THE MUNCHIES so that I could pack on some mass (my appetite does and alwys has sucked!), but it really gave me the opposite effect. I wasn't hungry in the least, in fact, food wasnt even a thought. I did find that once I started to force myself to eat, it was harder to control portions, but the increase in appetite was definately not there......Rod555 said:Performance enhancing drugs arent recreational, they ENHANCE athletic performance. You take them to help you reach a goal faster or a goal which would be unobtainable without PED.
Explain to me how that is the same as taking a drug just because it makes you feel good, makes your head go a bit funny and makes you laugh at dumb shit?
If youd argue that casual AAS use is more detrimental to your health than casual pot smoking then why are you posting on an AAS board?

Rod555 said:Performance enhancing drugs arent recreational, they ENHANCE athletic performance. You take them to help you reach a goal faster or a goal which would be unobtainable without PED.
Explain to me how that is the same as taking a drug just because it makes you feel good, makes your head go a bit funny and makes you laugh at dumb shit?
QUOTE]
PED are illegal and not meant to help aid people in sports but to aid people with illness. The term PED was coined because of athletes who cheated...not some catchy supplement company who thought the phrase would sell more product. I don't take smoke to "feel good" or "make my head go funny" or "laugh at dumb shit"...I smoke to help me relax and fall asleep because most gear tweaks my anxiety as well as restless ness while I sleep. Why can't you except that for some both can go together and work together?
terrapin said:This statement is ridiculous. Oh, I suppose that we should all just turn a blind eye to the detrimental effects of AAS because we think there is some noble reason for taking them (ie: better physique). What makes that anymore noble than wanting to watch a funny movie while stoned or wanting to get a better nights sleep. Who are you to judge what is the RIGHT drug to take and for what purpose?!?! Ease up on the hypocrisy...Again, you don't need to get you blood work done if you smoke pot once and awhile, but you NEED to get your blood work done even after a MILD cycle - that should tell you all you need to know!
Rod555 said:The way i see it they are at complete different ends of the spectrum, people take AAS because they are dedicated to weight lifting and fitness. Smoking pot is different lifestyle altogether. The two would never meet in my life. Obviously you two feel differently, but im not convinced using a pscycoactive narcotic to "help you sleep" is the best idea. Its often the lack of weed which is keeping you awake in the end so its a vicious cycle.
As ive mentioned before ive seen too many of my good freinds fuck themselves up through smoking weed, so no, im never going to accept it.
I saw a TV Doc last night about kids who had smoked weed from their early teens and developed scizophrenia in early 20s. Thats proven, and there a plenty more reasons not to do it too.
Do what you want, its your body but just dont think its a harmless drug, coz it aint.
bigdawg8 said:Does smoking bud affect your results while cycling? I use it to calm me down and not flip out. Thanks,
terrapin said:Agreed - it ain't harmless. Drug use (no matter what the drug is) is a personal choice.
Rod555 said:Cool. Agree to disagree on this one then bro!![]()
I know ive got a tendancy to jump my soapbox over this subject! but i do have my reasons.
Rod555 said:As ive mentioned before ive seen too many of my good freinds fuck themselves up through smoking weed, so no, im never going to accept it.
Twinpeaks said:Smoking "bud" raises estrogen levels. Not good unless you want boobs
Mavy said:Do you not think that people can fuck themselves up from using steroids? Its all about control vs abuse bro. People who abuse any drug whether steroids or weed are going to run into problems with it. Its that simple.
WHen I fucked up my arm and shoulder, I thanked god everyday for weed. It was the only thing that allowed me to sleep. My pain was unbearable, and Ty-3s didnt do jack shit for me except make me constipated.
funny real funny!!! never been to school!! busy on the grind!! lol!!!fugetaboutit said:pit-bullbob, sounds like you're hooked on caffiene now by the way you typed your words! LOL!
fugetaboutit said:It's not a harmless drug, but people react differently to it and some people don't get any symptoms and some do. That's all. Alot of people tolerate it quite well and it doesn't do shit to them....on the negative side that is. For me, there's no vicious cycle since I don't use it everyday....or close to that.....and it certainly doesn't keep me awake if I don't use it to go to bed. We're not talking withdrawl from crack symptoms here. Most people I know that use don't abuse, maybe that's why. Also, the few that develop scizo, are just that.....the few. very rare cuz I've never heard that b4 and I've seen a lot of potheads from college and have run into them since and they turned out just fine. Anyway, not condeming or condoning....like many of us have said already...to each his own. I just don't think it's a big deal.
calveless wonder said:how much misinformation is gonna be on this thread? It's proven time and time again it doesn't effect hormonal levels.
bigdawg8 said:Does smoking bud affect your results while cycling? I use it to calm me down and not flip out. Thanks,

Rod555 said:The way i see it they are at complete different ends of the spectrum, people take AAS because they are dedicated to weight lifting and fitness. Smoking pot is different lifestyle altogether. The two would never meet in my life. Obviously you two feel differently, but im not convinced using a pscycoactive narcotic to "help you sleep" is the best idea. Its often the lack of weed which is keeping you awake in the end so its a vicious cycle.
As ive mentioned before ive seen too many of my good freinds fuck themselves up through smoking weed, so no, im never going to accept it.
I saw a TV Doc last night about kids who had smoked weed from their early teens and developed scizophrenia in early 20s. Thats proven, and there a plenty more reasons not to do it too.
Do what you want, its your body but just dont think its a harmless drug, coz it aint.
JKurz1 said:3 pages of what?????????? Hey, if you want to smoke, do it.....if you don't, don't.....lol....what's going on here?
yeah i was, so its al good. LOLfugetaboutit said:I was just messing pit-bullbob. Your spelling was fine, it was all the exclamations!!!!!
I just had a mental picture of someone typing away a million miles an hour. LOL.
halfaclue said:Marijuana is not a narcotic and while we are talking about TV shows..there were some ones on steroids that were 100% true as well. (insert sarcasm here). I do understand your reasoning though and if I ever saw my friends go through that then I feel differently. My buddies from high school are managers for insurance companies and lawyers who still smoke so it didn't effect me and my friends the same way as yours. To each his own.
Rod555 said:I thought narcotic is accepted as another word for drug? Correct me on that one if i am wrong bro.
I expect your freinds started smoking it later in life im guessing? In college probably?
Im talking about kids who smoked it from 14 onwards and would now have no fucking chance of ever being a manager or lawyer! It may be a different smoking culture amongst the youths where you are bro, i dont know.
But all i know is i would stay well away, ESPECIALY on a cycle.
halfaclue said:We all started around age 16 and none of us are all day users...maybe at a party or at night but none of us use it when working or hanging out with out family's. I grabbed the below definition off the web dictionary.
narcotic refers to opium, opium derivatives, and their semisynthetic or totally synthetic substitutes. Cocaine and coca leaves, most medical professionals prefer the more precise term opioid for all natural, semi-synthetic and synthetic substances that behave pharmacologically like morphine, the primary constituent of natural opium.
Rod555 said:Cheers bro. I just thought it was a US word for drugs. That ll learn me for trying to speak your lingo!
Yeah, the people i knew got into all day every day smoking very quickly. It all went downhill from there. Im just commenting on what i saw, not meaning to pass jugment on pot users.![]()
slash747 said:As far as smoking weed to ease pain. I say no. I know Im a hypocrit because I use drugs everyday to help me with medical problems, but they way I look at pain killers and medications that ease the pain is that they are taking one of my senses away. If you did not like the way something smelled would you take a pill that made you stop smelling? Now I understand that there are people out their that dont have the luxury of getting a break from the pain like cancer patients or burn victims and well there pain goes above and beyond the everyday pain we experience in our lives.
I love weed by the way, but lets not fool ourselves into believing that we are using it for any other reason than to get high! And please I dont want to hear about the spiritual aspects of smoking marijuana you damn hippies!!! LOL
.
Rod555 said:The way i see it they are at complete different ends of the spectrum, people take AAS because they are dedicated to weight lifting and fitness.
heregothere said:I agree that most bb'ers have addictive personalities and can't responsibly smoke pot (or take AAS for that matter). It all comes back to the bromide - "Everything in Moderation."

This page contains mature content. By continuing, you confirm you are over 18 and agree to our TOS and User Agreement.
Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below 










