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Smoking Bud while using Gear

What are you trying to do, get healthy or get fucked up? your body cant do 2 things at once dude. (figuratively speaking)

Either work out and get big, or smoke some weed and eat shit and get male breasts!!!! Just go rock climbing way up in the mountains and hang off a cliff and light one up, then see what happens. The shit dont go together.
 
BigGuns29 said:
What are you trying to do, get healthy or get fucked up? your body cant do 2 things at once dude. (figuratively speaking)

Either work out and get big, or smoke some weed and eat shit and get male breasts!!!! Just go rock climbing way up in the mountains and hang off a cliff and light one up, then see what happens. The shit dont go together.

LOL
they don't go together......
please.

how many bodybuilders do you know? It's very common practice...helps with workout related nausea, aggression and appetite. as long as its in moderation it doesn't really matter. a very large # of bodybuilders smoke because they don't drink, so they need some type of vyce.

and there is no confirmed studies that weed gives you gyno. that belief came into effect because of a severely flawed and uncontrolled study done 50 years ago.
 
calveless wonder said:
LOL
they don't go together......
please.

how many bodybuilders do you know? It's very common practice...helps with workout related nausea, aggression and appetite. as long as its in moderation it doesn't really matter. a very large # of bodybuilders smoke because they don't drink, so they need some type of vyce.

and there is no confirmed studies that weed gives you gyno. that belief came into effect because of a severely flawed and uncontrolled study done 50 years ago.

So putting tar and smoke into your lungs that provide the blood the oxygen it needs to feed the muscles to rebuild and recouperate is good? come on......... feeding your muscles carbon monoxide is good too right?
 
Hell guys, I work my ass off working out. The only problem I guess I have is that I get stoned and get the munchies. :chomp: Screws up my whole diet. I don't drink now cuz if I do I'll end up flipping out and hurting someone or myself. Bud helps me control my "Rage". :evil: Does anyone else not do this to curb it?
 
didnt arnold smoke in pumpin iron? i dont smoke much pot, but if i have no apetite a few tokes and even tuna, after all ive eatin will still make me salivate!
 
bigdawg8 said:
Does smoking bud affect your results while cycling? I use it to calm me down and not flip out. Thanks,

Two of my friends back in High School, Mike S. and Ken L. where the biggest pot heads and also the biggest dudes in my class. Mike was more into sports such as football and powerlifting, while Ken did hit the weights pretty hard he preffered to just veg. out. Mike went to the Junior Olympics two years in a row, the first time there he placed 2nd and the second time there he got first place. What is really messed up is Ken always out lifted Mike and the only reason he didn't try out was he would never give up his weed.

These guys where benching near 400lbs as sophomores and well over that as juniors and swore by the weed. If they wouldn't of dropped out of high school no telling what they would have done.
 
calveless wonder said:
LOL
they don't go together......
please.

how many bodybuilders do you know? It's very common practice...helps with workout related nausea, aggression and appetite. as long as its in moderation it doesn't really matter. a very large # of bodybuilders smoke because they don't drink, so they need some type of vyce.

and there is no confirmed studies that weed gives you gyno. that belief came into effect because of a severely flawed and uncontrolled study done 50 years ago.
Its true. I use it for that and sleep. As a matter of a fact I am going to do that now as it is 3am and I can not sleep......goodnight!

Quad
 
Ive already gone off on a rant about weed on a different thread, but ill say it again, weed is a dodgy drug. It affects motivation and is responsible for a lot more psycological problems that people think.

A lot of pot heads i know use weed to go to sleep and to calm down, but its due to the craving for weed that they cant sleep and get wound up anyway! Weed IS adictive, if not physicaly, than mentally, both end with the same result, substance dependancy.

BigGuns I totally agree with you bro, what is the point in smoking weed and working out, the two dont go.

A lot of kids i went to school with from good families who had guarenteed good futures have chucked it all away by being stoned all through their teens and now have shit jobs just to get enough cash to pay for weed.

I fucking hate weed.
 
Calveless wonder is right. I think that you would be surprised if you knew how many bodybuilders smoked the cheeba. Is it bad for your lungs? Well ... ya. Is dbol bad for your liver? Well ... ya.

I am not big into the pot anymore, but dabble in it from time to time as a treat. It is a great muscle relaxant, helps with any pain, de-stresses me out (this is the biggest reason I will use it), it increases your appetite, and its just fun.

A night of weed for me .. is a relaxing night. I will relax, spark a joint, then get in a huge cooking zone, usually BBQ. The appetite thing is good if you cook some good shit. Then its just a matter of veggin out, and watchin a few movies, and relaxing, then boning my chick, cause boning high freakin rocks. Thats about it for me nowadays. I will smoke maybe once a month if that. Like I say .. its just a treat for me to relax every now and again. I think its quite harmless bro. Especially when you think of what else we put our bodies through.

Cheers,
Mavy
 
is it good for you - no. but most things in moderation are fine. some of the people flaming you wouldn't think twice of using DNP. Also, no one seems to mind popping some xanax or valium when on a cycle to calm down the anxiety - but GOD FORBID someone mentions smoking pot! Drug users are drug users. Doing AAS is doing drugs - period. Your no different than someone smoking pot.

I don't know any casual pot smokers that need PCT.
 
Anybody that is concerned with the tar in your lungs from taking in smoke, should invest in a weed vaporizer... No smoke to inhale, no paper burn. Just hot air turning the THC into a vapor that you can breath in...
 
You're body can't do 2 things at once?? Lmfao, says who? As long as the weed isn't making you stay home and sleep all day and play nintendo its fine. Smoke AFTER your workouts, or maybe when you have 15-20 mins. of intense lifting left as it can give you a burst of energy. Smoking before your workout isn't a great idea because the chance of burning out after 30 mins. or less is pretty good.
 
How 'bout EATING the weed??? No smoke there! Make some nice pot brownies and you don't even have to inhale. LOL. Seriously though, I think if someone just uses it to fall asleep (like myself sometimes) and perhaps stimulate your appetite a bit, then it's o.k. One cannot be classified as a "potsmoker" or "pothead" when he/she uses it just for those reasons. Were not saying that they smoke all day and all night where it affects their motivation, diet, sperm count, etc. It's o.k. if it's done in moderation and if it's not abused.....and most importantly if the person doesn't lose sight of their goal.
my .02 .
 
fugetaboutit said:
How 'bout EATING the weed??? No smoke there! Make some nice pot brownies and you don't even have to inhale. LOL. Seriously though, I think if someone just uses it to fall asleep (like myself sometimes) and perhaps stimulate your appetite a bit, then it's o.k. One cannot be classified as a "potsmoker" or "pothead" when he/she uses it just for those reasons. Were not saying that they smoke all day and all night where it affects their motivation, diet, sperm count, etc. It's o.k. if it's done in moderation and if it's not abused.....and most importantly if the person doesn't lose sight of their goal.
my .02 .

I totally agree..I smoke around 10pm and sleep by 11pm. I don't smoke all day on the weekends and I don't smoke during the day while at work..just enough to help me un wind. And Yes Arnold smoked weed and drank beer while cycling so if he can do 3 things at once then i can do two.
 
I don't know maybe I'm boring, but I don't drink, smoke, or snort when training and only drink socially when I'm off, but that's just me so to each it's own!
 
As far as I remember Arnold used to take a bump before he lifted for energy and smoke a blunt afterwards to calm him down and get his appetite going. I'm not into the bump...but if you smoke in moderation - who cares.

That said, I have a ton of friends who quickly lost all their motivation from smoking bud all day and are 28 year old bartenders or whatever after graduating from an ivy league school. I sincerely believe that whether you turn into a burn out or not depends mostly on your brain chemistry and personality...some may smoke a few times and lose all motivation, some can smoke forever and push the envelope.
 
Being a bit high-strung myself, I love smoking because it mellows me out and helps me sleep when compounds such as tren have me staring at the ceiling all night. Moderation is key though I'd say. I smoked almost every night before bed this summer because I had so much trouble falling asleep. I just recently slowed it down and on'y smoked once in the past week. I can honestly say that doing so has cleared my head abit and helped me concentrate a bit more on sticking to my diet much better, as well as feeling better overall, although it might just be psychological. I love smoking, but it's so much worse for you than cigarettes are. It's just so mellowing though. The moral of the story is...to each his own, and moderation is key.
 
bigdawg8 said:
Hell guys, I work my ass off working out. The only problem I guess I have is that I get stoned and get the munchies. :chomp: Screws up my whole diet. I don't drink now cuz if I do I'll end up flipping out and hurting someone or myself. Bud helps me control my "Rage". :evil: Does anyone else not do this to curb it?
Smoke hash it doesn't give you the munchies at least in my experience. Also gives a wicked head rush. ;)
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Smoke hash it doesn't give you the munchies at least in my experience. Also gives a wicked head rush. ;)

If I had it around i would...much cleaner high then sticky iky green stuff.
 
bigdawg8 said:
Hell guys, I work my ass off working out. The only problem I guess I have is that I get stoned and get the munchies. :chomp: Screws up my whole diet. I don't drink now cuz if I do I'll end up flipping out and hurting someone or myself. Bud helps me control my "Rage". :evil: Does anyone else not do this to curb it?

I dont see any problem with smoking ocationally.
I used to smoke alot. Especially if sides where intense.
As long as you focus on diet and workouts, not thc.
As for the munchies, stack up on all sorts of healthy food. And drink alot of water to feel fuller. It works for me.
 
like i said earlier ....when i just get off a cycle i loose my apetite and smoking lets me REALLY enjoy food, even things like canned tuna and grilled chicken when all i want to eat when i just "get off" is crap like cookies icecream and cake.
but the problem i do see with it is that IMO bodybuilder and steroid users tend to have addictive personalities witch can lead to some problems. ie. smoking everyday and really "getting into" the whole weed seen. pepole are, for the most part very smart in here. makeing there own fina and other gear... who knows you can get heavy inta weed and start growing your own hydro and things like that.
just a thought
 
i smoke weed but not all day long or before workouts. i only smoke at night in the privacy of my own home to help aid in relaxing myself prior to sleepy time :rasta:
 
I cant believe some of the posts im reading here. I seriously thought the majority people on this forum would have different opinions on this subject.

What about taking ecstacy because it calms you down after popping a pill?
Is that ok?

Performance enhancing drugs are one thing, Recreational drug use is on a completley different boat IMO.
 
Yeah, and I don't know about all that....regarding bb's and aas users that have addictive personalities turning to growing hydroponics just b/c they have the smarts at homebrewing their own aas.....a bit of a strrrrrrrretch. However, I do agree with you tboy that after a cycle, it does help with rasing the appetite and makes the "borring" foods tasty again!
 
Performance enhancing drugs are one thing, Recreational drug use is on a completely different boat IMO.

Performance enhancing drugs ARE recreational drug use - there is no difference. Just because you get muscular from one and munchies on the other doesn't mean you can distinguish between the two. i would argue that casual aas use can be far more detrimental to your health than casual pot smoking.
 
fugetaboutit said:
Yeah, and I don't know about all that....regarding bb's and aas users that have addictive personalities turning to growing hydroponics just b/c they have the smarts at homebrewing their own aas.....a bit of a strrrrrrrretch. However, I do agree with you tboy that after a cycle, it does help with rasing the appetite and makes the "borring" foods tasty again!
i know that was a stretch lol, but dont you think bb's have an addictive personality? plus if someone does have the intilect to make quality fina dont ya think we can have some of the best thc agucultirst around? ;)
 
Mavy said:
A night of weed for me .. is a relaxing night. I will relax, spark a joint, then get in a huge cooking zone, usually BBQ. The appetite thing is good if you cook some good shit. Then its just a matter of veggin out, and watchin a few movies, and relaxing, then boning my chick, cause boning high freakin rocks.

Cheers,
Mavy

LMAO...

I'm like hammertime, my addiction is the soreness the next day after a good work out, I will occasionaly drink a few beers only on an event like bike week or something.

...., but after reading Mavy's post he makes it sound pretty tempting. :qt:
 
terrapin said:
Performance enhancing drugs are one thing, Recreational drug use is on a completely different boat IMO.

Performance enhancing drugs ARE recreational drug use - there is no difference. Just because you get muscular from one and munchies on the other doesn't mean you can distinguish between the two. i would argue that casual aas use can be far more detrimental to your health than casual pot smoking.

Performance enhancing drugs arent recreational, they ENHANCE athletic performance. You take them to help you reach a goal faster or a goal which would be unobtainable without PED.

Explain to me how that is the same as taking a drug just because it makes you feel good, makes your head go a bit funny and makes you laugh at dumb shit?

If youd argue that casual AAS use is more detrimental to your health than casual pot smoking then why are you posting on an AAS board?
 
Rod555 said:
Performance enhancing drugs arent recreational, they ENHANCE athletic performance. You take them to help you reach a goal faster or a goal which would be unobtainable without PED.

Explain to me how that is the same as taking a drug just because it makes you feel good, makes your head go a bit funny and makes you laugh at dumb shit?

If youd argue that casual AAS use is more detrimental to your health than casual pot smoking then why are you posting on an AAS board?
I'm not sure which side of the fence I'm on.......for the most part, when I smoked, it made my anxiety skyrocket. I smoked to try and GET THE MUNCHIES so that I could pack on some mass (my appetite does and alwys has sucked!), but it really gave me the opposite effect. I wasn't hungry in the least, in fact, food wasnt even a thought. I did find that once I started to force myself to eat, it was harder to control portions, but the increase in appetite was definately not there...... :worried:
 
about weed and benzo!!!im in this to feel healthy and become strong becuz i`ve been doing every drug out there besides crack and p.c.p,been totaly clean for a year and "only" weed and benzo the last year befor i came clean and for me weed/hasch and benzo was the hardest to stop with. but maybe thats just me but it was realy hard. i would choose the smack illnes befor the benzo and weed illness any day. did u know that benzo and alcohol could kill u if u quit to fast, crack and smack can not(it just feels that way)!!!!! i know i cant controll any narcotics but if i popped a valium to day i would be hooked, its just as addictive as smack in high doses!!!!!! benzo is dangerous i know!!!! i wouldent do weed either if i was u, but its up to everyone make there choice. plus dont u think u loose a little extra aggression at the gym if u got thc in your system??? i meen even if u only smoke at night or at weekends that shit stays in there for like forever(I`ve been positive for 8weeks at the longest) and after a wile your a little high al the time, even if u dont feel high al the time u kind of are!!!!! who im i to speak up??? i did drugs from the age 14-22 so if i know something its drugs!!!! take care!!
 
We all have "bad" things we like... for me its booze and stippers so I can't say either way.
I have a buddy who one day showed up and said "look at this". His left nipple was the nastiest case of gyno I had ever seen... and he could get fluid out of it! He had been smoking a mad amount of pot the last few months.
I told him that pot is supposed to increase estrogen levels in men. He quit and the gyno went away after a bit. He didn't change anything else.
Moral of the story... just wanted everyone else to know the nasty shit I saw and I have to live with... LOL
 
Rod555 said:
Performance enhancing drugs arent recreational, they ENHANCE athletic performance. You take them to help you reach a goal faster or a goal which would be unobtainable without PED.

Explain to me how that is the same as taking a drug just because it makes you feel good, makes your head go a bit funny and makes you laugh at dumb shit?
QUOTE]

PED are illegal and not meant to help aid people in sports but to aid people with illness. The term PED was coined because of athletes who cheated...not some catchy supplement company who thought the phrase would sell more product. I don't take smoke to "feel good" or "make my head go funny" or "laugh at dumb shit"...I smoke to help me relax and fall asleep because most gear tweaks my anxiety as well as restless ness while I sleep. Why can't you except that for some both can go together and work together?
 
If you'd argue that casual AAS use is more detrimental to your health than casual pot smoking then why are you posting on an AAS board?[/QUOTE]

This statement is ridiculous. Oh, I suppose that we should all just turn a blind eye to the detrimental effects of AAS because we think there is some noble reason for taking them (ie: better physique). What makes that anymore noble than wanting to watch a funny movie while stoned or wanting to get a better nights sleep. Who are you to judge what is the RIGHT drug to take and for what purpose?!?! Ease up on the hypocrisy...Again, you don't need to get you blood work done if you smoke pot once and awhile, but you NEED to get your blood work done even after a MILD cycle - that should tell you all you need to know!
 
pit-bullbob, sounds like you're hooked on caffiene now by the way you typed your words! LOL! Anyway, everyone is different. There's no right or wrong here on this subject. Everyone will forever react differently to weed and use it for different reasons. Nothing wrong with that IMO.
 
terrapin said:
This statement is ridiculous. Oh, I suppose that we should all just turn a blind eye to the detrimental effects of AAS because we think there is some noble reason for taking them (ie: better physique). What makes that anymore noble than wanting to watch a funny movie while stoned or wanting to get a better nights sleep. Who are you to judge what is the RIGHT drug to take and for what purpose?!?! Ease up on the hypocrisy...Again, you don't need to get you blood work done if you smoke pot once and awhile, but you NEED to get your blood work done even after a MILD cycle - that should tell you all you need to know!

The way i see it they are at complete different ends of the spectrum, people take AAS because they are dedicated to weight lifting and fitness. Smoking pot is different lifestyle altogether. The two would never meet in my life. Obviously you two feel differently, but im not convinced using a pscycoactive narcotic to "help you sleep" is the best idea. Its often the lack of weed which is keeping you awake in the end so its a vicious cycle.

As ive mentioned before ive seen too many of my good freinds fuck themselves up through smoking weed, so no, im never going to accept it.

I saw a TV Doc last night about kids who had smoked weed from their early teens and developed scizophrenia in early 20s. Thats proven, and there a plenty more reasons not to do it too.

Do what you want, its your body but just dont think its a harmless drug, coz it aint.
 
Rod555 said:
The way i see it they are at complete different ends of the spectrum, people take AAS because they are dedicated to weight lifting and fitness. Smoking pot is different lifestyle altogether. The two would never meet in my life. Obviously you two feel differently, but im not convinced using a pscycoactive narcotic to "help you sleep" is the best idea. Its often the lack of weed which is keeping you awake in the end so its a vicious cycle.

As ive mentioned before ive seen too many of my good freinds fuck themselves up through smoking weed, so no, im never going to accept it.

I saw a TV Doc last night about kids who had smoked weed from their early teens and developed scizophrenia in early 20s. Thats proven, and there a plenty more reasons not to do it too.

Do what you want, its your body but just dont think its a harmless drug, coz it aint.

Agreed - it ain't harmless. Drug use (no matter what the drug is) is a personal choice.
 
It's not a harmless drug, but people react differently to it and some people don't get any symptoms and some do. That's all. Alot of people tolerate it quite well and it doesn't do shit to them....on the negative side that is. For me, there's no vicious cycle since I don't use it everyday....or close to that.....and it certainly doesn't keep me awake if I don't use it to go to bed. We're not talking withdrawl from crack symptoms here. Most people I know that use don't abuse, maybe that's why. Also, the few that develop scizo, are just that.....the few. very rare cuz I've never heard that b4 and I've seen a lot of potheads from college and have run into them since and they turned out just fine. Anyway, not condeming or condoning....like many of us have said already...to each his own. I just don't think it's a big deal.
 
bigdawg8 said:
Does smoking bud affect your results while cycling? I use it to calm me down and not flip out. Thanks,


Smoking "bud" raises estrogen levels. Not good unless you want boobs
 
terrapin said:
Agreed - it ain't harmless. Drug use (no matter what the drug is) is a personal choice.

Cool. Agree to disagree on this one then bro! :)

I know ive got a tendancy to jump my soapbox over this subject! but i do have my reasons.
 
Rod555 said:
Cool. Agree to disagree on this one then bro! :)

I know ive got a tendancy to jump my soapbox over this subject! but i do have my reasons.


Cool - I agree. I've been known to get up on a soapbox now and again... :)
 
Rod555 said:
As ive mentioned before ive seen too many of my good freinds fuck themselves up through smoking weed, so no, im never going to accept it.

Do you not think that people can fuck themselves up from using steroids? Its all about control vs abuse bro. People who abuse any drug whether steroids or weed are going to run into problems with it. Its that simple.

WHen I fucked up my arm and shoulder, I thanked god everyday for weed. It was the only thing that allowed me to sleep. My pain was unbearable, and Ty-3s didnt do jack shit for me except make me constipated.
 
Ahhh,used to smoke like a fiend,before lifting,after,all the above,went cold turkey 3 years ago,better off without it,used to buy into "all the ways it helps" with lifting,now i see it was all B.S.,may smoke again someday,just dont care to now.Funny how when you do it it seems it helps,then when you dont, you look back and see it didnt.
 
Mavy said:
Do you not think that people can fuck themselves up from using steroids? Its all about control vs abuse bro. People who abuse any drug whether steroids or weed are going to run into problems with it. Its that simple.

WHen I fucked up my arm and shoulder, I thanked god everyday for weed. It was the only thing that allowed me to sleep. My pain was unbearable, and Ty-3s didnt do jack shit for me except make me constipated.

I know that people that overdo it on the gear can fuck themselves up but i was reffering to freinds of mine who got into the weed smoking lifestyle and messed up their education, threw away unversity place and good futures etc. All due to the loss of motivation and focus that habitual weed smoking promotes.

As far as i can gauge, most people find that a by product of taking AAS is an increase in focus on life in general along with the success' that an increase in self esteem can promote.

You guys are obviously not badly affected by the weed because your still training etc, but ill never accept it s use as a recreational drug because if it ever does become legalised/decriminalised I can see that the amount of kids getting sucked into the media promoted pot head lifestyle is gonna increase greatly which is only a very bad thing.
 
fugetaboutit said:
It's not a harmless drug, but people react differently to it and some people don't get any symptoms and some do. That's all. Alot of people tolerate it quite well and it doesn't do shit to them....on the negative side that is. For me, there's no vicious cycle since I don't use it everyday....or close to that.....and it certainly doesn't keep me awake if I don't use it to go to bed. We're not talking withdrawl from crack symptoms here. Most people I know that use don't abuse, maybe that's why. Also, the few that develop scizo, are just that.....the few. very rare cuz I've never heard that b4 and I've seen a lot of potheads from college and have run into them since and they turned out just fine. Anyway, not condeming or condoning....like many of us have said already...to each his own. I just don't think it's a big deal.


Actually, if it becomes legalised we can expect to see a significant drop in the usage over time. So things would in fact get better. It's been proven time and time again in countries that legalised. Britain has now decriminalised.
 
calveless wonder said:
how much misinformation is gonna be on this thread? It's proven time and time again it doesn't effect hormonal levels.

Bro, not to be a cock, but where did you get your scientific information? Just curious.
 
bigdawg8 said:
Does smoking bud affect your results while cycling? I use it to calm me down and not flip out. Thanks,

Chronic marijuana use has been clinically shown to decrease free testosterone.

That in itself is enough to steer clear of the shit.

Hope this helps.

DIV

:chomp:
 
I was just messing pit-bullbob. Your spelling was fine, it was all the exclamations!!!!!
I just had a mental picture of someone typing away a million miles an hour. LOL.
 
Rod555 said:
The way i see it they are at complete different ends of the spectrum, people take AAS because they are dedicated to weight lifting and fitness. Smoking pot is different lifestyle altogether. The two would never meet in my life. Obviously you two feel differently, but im not convinced using a pscycoactive narcotic to "help you sleep" is the best idea. Its often the lack of weed which is keeping you awake in the end so its a vicious cycle.

As ive mentioned before ive seen too many of my good freinds fuck themselves up through smoking weed, so no, im never going to accept it.

I saw a TV Doc last night about kids who had smoked weed from their early teens and developed scizophrenia in early 20s. Thats proven, and there a plenty more reasons not to do it too.

Do what you want, its your body but just dont think its a harmless drug, coz it aint.

Marijuana is not a narcotic and while we are talking about TV shows..there were some ones on steroids that were 100% true as well. (insert sarcasm here). I do understand your reasoning though and if I ever saw my friends go through that then I feel differently. My buddies from high school are managers for insurance companies and lawyers who still smoke so it didn't effect me and my friends the same way as yours. To each his own.
 
3 pages of what?????????? Hey, if you want to smoke, do it.....if you don't, don't.....lol....what's going on here?
 
fugetaboutit said:
I was just messing pit-bullbob. Your spelling was fine, it was all the exclamations!!!!!
I just had a mental picture of someone typing away a million miles an hour. LOL.
yeah i was, so its al good. LOL
 
halfaclue said:
Marijuana is not a narcotic and while we are talking about TV shows..there were some ones on steroids that were 100% true as well. (insert sarcasm here). I do understand your reasoning though and if I ever saw my friends go through that then I feel differently. My buddies from high school are managers for insurance companies and lawyers who still smoke so it didn't effect me and my friends the same way as yours. To each his own.

I thought narcotic is accepted as another word for drug? Correct me on that one if i am wrong bro.

I expect your freinds started smoking it later in life im guessing? In college probably?

Im talking about kids who smoked it from 14 onwards and would now have no fucking chance of ever being a manager or lawyer! It may be a different smoking culture amongst the youths where you are bro, i dont know.

But all i know is i would stay well away, ESPECIALY on a cycle.
 
Rod555 said:
I thought narcotic is accepted as another word for drug? Correct me on that one if i am wrong bro.

I expect your freinds started smoking it later in life im guessing? In college probably?

Im talking about kids who smoked it from 14 onwards and would now have no fucking chance of ever being a manager or lawyer! It may be a different smoking culture amongst the youths where you are bro, i dont know.

But all i know is i would stay well away, ESPECIALY on a cycle.

We all started around age 16 and none of us are all day users...maybe at a party or at night but none of us use it when working or hanging out with out family's. I grabbed the below definition off the web dictionary.

narcotic refers to opium, opium derivatives, and their semisynthetic or totally synthetic substitutes. Cocaine and coca leaves, most medical professionals prefer the more precise term opioid for all natural, semi-synthetic and synthetic substances that behave pharmacologically like morphine, the primary constituent of natural opium.
 
halfaclue said:
We all started around age 16 and none of us are all day users...maybe at a party or at night but none of us use it when working or hanging out with out family's. I grabbed the below definition off the web dictionary.

narcotic refers to opium, opium derivatives, and their semisynthetic or totally synthetic substitutes. Cocaine and coca leaves, most medical professionals prefer the more precise term opioid for all natural, semi-synthetic and synthetic substances that behave pharmacologically like morphine, the primary constituent of natural opium.

Cheers bro. I just thought it was a US word for drugs. That ll learn me for trying to speak your lingo!

Yeah, the people i knew got into all day every day smoking very quickly. It all went downhill from there. Im just commenting on what i saw, not meaning to pass jugment on pot users. :)
 
Rod555 said:
Cheers bro. I just thought it was a US word for drugs. That ll learn me for trying to speak your lingo!

Yeah, the people i knew got into all day every day smoking very quickly. It all went downhill from there. Im just commenting on what i saw, not meaning to pass jugment on pot users. :)

Rock on!
 
I don't have much of an opinion on it either way. My biggest question is...Don't you people have jobs??? LOL I was a big time pot smoker when I was younger but, I stopped (had to due to the military) many yrs ago. As much as I would enjoy burnin one every once in a while I have an great fear of getting drug tested because some dumbass has an accident that involves me at work a few days aftr I just happened to give it a go again.

I have to disagree that pot etc & AAS are the same thing. One is a cosmetic & one is to simply get high. There's no doubt that AAS has far more potential for health issues though. Just my .$02
 
Is marijuana harmfull to youre health? Im guessing yes. Are steroids? Im guessing yes also. Everything is about moderation though. If you abuse something it will have ill effects on you.

As far as smoking weed to ease pain. I say no. I know Im a hypocrit because I use drugs everyday to help me with medical problems, but they way I look at pain killers and medications that ease the pain is that they are taking one of my senses away. If you did not like the way something smelled would you take a pill that made you stop smelling? Now I understand that there are people out their that dont have the luxury of getting a break from the pain like cancer patients or burn victims and well there pain goes above and beyond the everyday pain we experience in our lives.

I love weed by the way, but lets not fool ourselves into believing that we are using it for any other reason than to get high! And please I dont want to hear about the spiritual aspects of smoking marijuana you damn hippies!!! LOL

Here are some good articles on Marijane:

http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/schizophrenia.jsp
http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/cannabisms.jsp
http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/lungs.jsp
http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/dutch.jsp
http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/addict.jsp
http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/waronweed.jsp

This one is really good God Bless Canada:
http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/marijlaw.jsp

I have not smoked weed in 3 years, damn my probation officer and those wretched drug tests.
 
slash747 said:
As far as smoking weed to ease pain. I say no. I know Im a hypocrit because I use drugs everyday to help me with medical problems, but they way I look at pain killers and medications that ease the pain is that they are taking one of my senses away. If you did not like the way something smelled would you take a pill that made you stop smelling? Now I understand that there are people out their that dont have the luxury of getting a break from the pain like cancer patients or burn victims and well there pain goes above and beyond the everyday pain we experience in our lives.

I love weed by the way, but lets not fool ourselves into believing that we are using it for any other reason than to get high! And please I dont want to hear about the spiritual aspects of smoking marijuana you damn hippies!!! LOL
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Good articles Slash. I admitt, when I smoke a joint 99% of the time, its not for pain, It's for the stone. Like I say this is not to often that I do it, but when I do, as I mentioned earlier its a treat, and I do enjoy it.

BUT ... When I did use it for pain, ... it was the best thing in the world to me. Sorry bro ... I am not like you in this sense. If I am in pain ... I WANT IT TO GO AWAY. Guess I am just a pussy! lol. I am very anti-hippy as well. I dont like to feel pain at all. Even some girls that I have met were into the pain thing in bed, and I wasnt into it at all. I dont like getting my hair pulled, and back clawed to fuck, and punched and bitten etc. I like things to be pain free. The only good kinda pain in my mind is workout pain.

When my shoulder was dislocated and my arm was broken, I was sent home in a sling with a bottle of Tylenol 3s, and a "hope you get better soon". Well, I couldnt sleep unless I was sitting up. When I would lay down, I could feel my shoulder starting to hang out of the socket, and the pulling on it was SEVERE pain! For about 2 weeks I would catch 2 hrs here, and 2 hrs there during the day for sleep, it was horrible, I was in pain all the time, and the T-3s didnt to shiat! My friends girlfriend introduced me to the best combo (she was in a car accident and told me what "really" worked. The best combo .. is weed and wine. Each night I would sip on red wine, and smoke weed, and finally I could go to sleep, it was unreal. Needless to say this was my rememdy for it. The best part was ... I told my orthopod about it (one of the best Orthopedic Surgeons in my city, has his own clinic within the hospital), and he was actually cool with it. He didnt say to much, but didnt tell me to stop. I would say that Tylenol 3s are harder on your system. Remember that weed is approved for medical purposes in Canada, and it has also been decriminalised here as well. Thats my story. If I am in pain like that again ... bring the weed and wine ... no fuckin around. lol

Mavy
 
Rod555 said:
The way i see it they are at complete different ends of the spectrum, people take AAS because they are dedicated to weight lifting and fitness.

Not everyone takes AAS because they want to be more fit. Some people take them because they are searching for self actualization or to achieve the perfect body and hoping to receive society's acceptance. Some people take them for the psychoactive effects. Some people take them simply because they're illegal. There are a host of reasons people take steroids. Just because you (ostensibly) take them to be more fit, your experience is obviously not representative of the community as a whole.

I agree that most bb'ers have addictive personalities and can't responsibly smoke pot (or take AAS for that matter). It all comes back to the bromide - "Everything in Moderation."
 
Never that....

heregothere said:
I agree that most bb'ers have addictive personalities and can't responsibly smoke pot (or take AAS for that matter). It all comes back to the bromide - "Everything in Moderation."

That's a generalization that can never be verified.

I'd say most BBs I come in contact with are pretty moderate in terms of how they view life and actually most veteran BBs are responsible with their AAS use.

one more thing.......

YOU ARE NOT ROCKING SHIT ON MY DIME........


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