Small Cycle... big questions, thanks in advance

[Salomon84]

Hi guys!

Hope you can help me here... Im planning in doing my firts and small cycle to do not make a hard impact in my liver and my hormonal structure.

Here my details:

5'70
168lbs
approx. 19% BF
30 Years old
Firts Cycle

according to my trainer this will be a good short cycle, that if i train hard and eat good i will have good gains:

Week one: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 50 mg Deca Durabolin (pharmacy nandrol)
week two: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 100 mg Deca Durabolin + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week three: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 100 mg Deca Durabolin + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week four: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 50 mg Deca Durabolin + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week five: two HCG (one Monday and the other thursday) + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week six: two HCG (one Monday and the other thursday)

also i need to take:

* two pills of silibinin during all the cycle
* vitamin B12 each saturday
* Creatin before training
* Protein shake and glutamine after training
* Amino Fuel before and after training

My big questions are:

Is a good/regular cycle considering that is my firts time, and like i dont want to put my liver and hormone structure by to much pressure?
Do i need novaldex? if so, when and in how many qtys.
Do i need Clomid? if so, when and in how many qtys.
Its ok my PCT?

Thank you very much for your time reading this...

Salomon

 

[Salomon84]

Up... I will appreciate a lot your help, thanks !!

 

[kubes]

Assuming this is your first cycle? Your trainer is making it to complicated. Her is a good first cycle. Test only that way if sides come up you know it's the test causing it and makes it much easier to combat the sides. After you get some cycles under your belt then you could add another compound.

Test e or c 1-12 250 mg 2xew
Hcg 250 iu 2xew 1- right up to 3 days prior to starting pct
Aromasin 12.5 mg ed or adex at .25 mg eod

Pct starts 14 days from last test pin Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolvadex 40/40/20/20

 

[jtmdell]

You'd be better off with what kubes told you. Your cycle is far too short and the dosages are messed up. Keep it simple the first time around. Deca can stay in your body for a very long time, so consider that if you are worried about hormone issues.

 

[Salomon84]

Thanks for the reply guys.

Well this is going to be my really firts cycle complete, thats why im so concern about my PCT and hormone structure, because like 5 years ago i made a stupid thing, i used nandrolone laurate (vet) + test (also vet), for only 2.5 weeks and them stopped... results: my hormones were down for like 3-4 weeks (i made blood test for this), them my hormone system start to work again normally. I know it was a stupid thing, i didnt even know anything about PCT, so this time i want to do it well!

That is the main reason why now i want to use only a short cycle with Deca Durabolin (pharmacy nandrol) and sustanon ( pharmacy test) and also make a very good PCT, because the only problem that i had was my hormones decline and for surely was for not making a PCT.

I dont wanna be BIG, just some quality 9-12 pound, and keep them! so assuming this can you please confirm if is ok:

.- using the two pills of proviron (mesterolone) every day since week two
.- taking Clomid and nolvadex during all the cycle (please specify very well the mg per day for each)
.- i have a doubt with the HCG, how many IU, and when?
.- Is ok to use Silibinin each day all the cycle?

Here again my cycle:

Week one: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 50 mg Deca Durabolin (pharmacy nandrol)
week two: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 100 mg Deca Durabolin + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week three: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 100 mg Deca Durabolin + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week four: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 50 mg Deca Durabolin + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week five: two HCG (one Monday and the other thursday) + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week six: two HCG (one Monday and the other thursday)

I want to start the cycle next week so i want to buy the clomid, nolva and HCG this week!

Thanks...

 

[Stackinplates]

I agree with everything that you gentlemen just said....

19% bf is high in my opinion to cycle
If you plan on doing a cycle that some mass you're actually gonna end up with a pretty high body fat percent and assuming you want to keep that you don't want to do a cut right afterwards....

So I think u need to lean out a bit then hit ur cycle after that eat at maintenance for a little while to solidify your game and then think about doing a cut

But if your trainer says that you'll add a nice been a mass on that cycle I do agree but you're not just going to get muscle mass you will put on some fat as well


And I'll be damned if anyone can be happy or excited to be over 20% body fat and adding more

 

[Stackinplates]

I promise ya u will be much more happy if ur slow down and cut for 3 months hit ur cycle mid summer or something

If u get down to say 13-14% bf u will be very happy what's the point of getting muscle is it is all covered up by fat ?

 

[Stackinplates]

Now if ur a powerlifting that's a diff story

Are u looking for
Strength or a good looking physique ?

 

[Salomon84]

Hi Stack,

Thanks for your reply.

My legs are too skinny, and i only have a little of body fat around my waist (a little bit only), at the rest i have good chest, specially back, and regular arms/shoulders... so i want with this small cycle increase a lot my legs, some abs and a little bit more the rest (shoulders, arms, chest, etc) today at night im going to calculate again with my trainer my bodyfat and update again here... so about your question is like a normal/good physique!

About my cycle and questions... what do you guys think?

Here again my cycle:

Week one: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 50 mg Deca Durabolin (pharmacy nandrol)
week two: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 100 mg Deca Durabolin + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week three: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 100 mg Deca Durabolin + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week four: 250 mg Sustanon (test) + 50 mg Deca Durabolin + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week five: two HCG (one Monday and the other thursday) + 2 proviron (mesterolone) from monday to friday
week six: two HCG (one Monday and the other thursday)

My questions:

.- is ok using the two pills of proviron (mesterolone) every day since week two of cycle?
.- i need to take Clomid and nolvadex during all the cycle (please specify very well the mg per day for each)
.- i have a doubt with the HCG, how many IU, and when? please specify very well because im not to familiar with abbreviations!
.- Is ok to use Silibinin each day all the cycle?

Please help me on this guys!!! thank you very much...

Salomon

 

[jtmdell]

Sorry but I still think you are making a mistake with that cycle. It's too short and the dosages aren't right.