Slow (no) progress on EQ/sust

[JoBu]

I just started my 4th week of 400mg EQ and 250mg sust split Mon/Thurs with 1.25mg Femera EOD. My strength is definitely going up but I haven't gained an ounce. I'm running about an even calorie budget...some days a little under. Diet is clean...meat, prot shakes, brown rice, sweet taters, whole wheat bread, ANPB, nuts...the basics. I'm thinking that the EQ hasn't really started to do its stuff yet and the low dose of sust isn't really enough to blow me up...which is fine as long as my strength keeps going up. I've got 4 more weeks with the sust then I'm switching it out for 50mg of BD winny ED for another 6 weeks. I'm not really looking for a lot of size but I figured I'd at least gain a pound or so per week. Do I just need to be patient here?

 

[|3ossman]

yes, trust me by week 7 youll start going

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I just started my 4th week of 400mg EQ and 250mg sust split Mon/Thurs with 1.25mg Femera EOD. My strength is definitely going up but I haven't gained an ounce. I'm running about an even calorie budget...some days a little under. Diet is clean...meat, prot shakes, brown rice, sweet taters, whole wheat bread, ANPB, nuts...the basics. I'm thinking that the EQ hasn't really started to do its stuff yet and the low dose of sust isn't really enough to blow me up...which is fine as long as my strength keeps going up. I've got 4 more weeks with the sust then I'm switching it out for 50mg of BD winny ED for another 6 weeks. I'm not really looking for a lot of size but I figured I'd at least gain a pound or so per week. Do I just need to be patient here?

You barely just started bro,
At those doses its not going to be a night and day diff. but you're already seeing strength. Don't stop the test until week 12-14 if you have enough. Eat more complex carbs and lean protein

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Did you have your body fat tested before the cycle ? It could be that you are gaining lbm while dropping your body fat.

M18

 

[flex2win]

I think you'll be happier with the EQ in a couple more weeks, I have run that dose once before, took a while, now I will be frontloading it @1gram first 2 weeks, then back down to 650mg/wk...

 

[Quadsweep]

Also if you are trying to gain you must keep a positive caloric intake. Otherwise the gains will be mostly water. High protein! I do 2 grams per pound.

Quad

 

[JoBu]

Didn't have my BF tested but I'm around 8%...I could be dropping more I guess. I didn't expect big things this early but I expected to see a little weight gain by now. I don't have much sust left but I think I can bump to 325/week for another 4 weeks (8 weeks with the test total). The test was just to give me a little something while the EQ was getting to work so I'm keeping the dose low. I'll wait another 2 weeks or so and then decide if I want to bump the EQ to 600mg/week or maybe extend it another 4 weeks at 400mg. I'm also going to bump my calorie intake a little with an extra prot shake before bed. Today was 300g carbs, 300g prot, 125g fat, and I've still got my 70g prot shake before I sleep...about 3700cal total. But I also burn 1000-1500cal per day training. I'm 5'9" 164lbs. I also just started adding EnerG to my supps so we'll see how the next few weeks treat me.

 

[fun28hi]

wouldent hurt to take a gram of tyrosine 3 times a day it will increase metabolism some but that will help force the protein into your muscles too so increase protein too.

 

[JoBu]

Okay guys...it's been two more weeks (in week 6 now) and I'm up maybe one pound. My strength is still decent and I'm a little more vascular. I might be getting slightly leaner but it's hard to tell. I've been eating a little more this past week and making sure to at least break even if not have a few 100 calorie surplus. I eat very clean so there are no junk calories in there. I should have plenty of protein...maybe not enough fats? My diet log is public if anyone cares to give it a look over:

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=TH3_FRB

My original plan was to add 50mg oral winny ED for the next 6 weeks and continue to run the EQ at 400mg/week for another 4 weeks. I'm going to pick up one more vial of EQ so I have 2 options:

1) immediately start running 600mg EQ/week and the winny which will give me about 12 weeks on the EQ with the winny going an additional 2 weeks

2) keep the EQ at 400mg/week but extend it another 5 weeks which would give me ~15 weeks on it total. I'd also hold on starting the winny for another couple weeks so I end it 2 weeks past the EQ.

 

[martinbros]

what brand of eq are you on?