Slow gains on Sust/NPP/Dbol?

[Nighthawkk]

I'm in early Week 4 of Sust 500mg EW/ NPP 150mg E3D/ Dbol 35mg ED and have only gained 2-3lbs. My eating isn't as enormous as it could be with my work hours, but I still do get lots of cals and 1.5x bodyweight in protein. I think it may be due to the fact that I've been "on" for more than a year with mostly bridging enanth @ 250mg weekly, so maybe I require higher doses now, but it still baffles me that even the NPP/dbol combo hasn't done much as of yet. I'm also taking 0.25mg letro daily to help with bloat and water. Strength is up a good amount so many I have lost fat and gained some muscle, which is what I'm hoping. Any suggestions to help me gain at least 5-7 keepable pounds for the 10 week cycle? Hitting plateaus seems to be the most distressing thing in bodybuilding so any advice is much appreciated, thanks

 

[Mrpumped]

I'm in early Week 4 of Sust 500mg EW/ NPP 150mg E3D/ Dbol 35mg ED and have only gained 2-3lbs. My eating isn't as enormous as it could be with my work hours, but I still do get lots of cals and 1.5x bodyweight in protein. I think it may be due to the fact that I've been "on" for more than a year with mostly bridging enanth @ 250mg weekly, so maybe I require higher doses now, but it still baffles me that even the NPP/dbol combo hasn't done much as of yet. I'm also taking 0.25mg letro daily to help with bloat and water. Strength is up a good amount so many I have lost fat and gained some muscle, which is what I'm hoping. Any suggestions to help me gain at least 5-7 keepable pounds for the 10 week cycle? Hitting plateaus seems to be the most distressing thing in bodybuilding so any advice is much appreciated, thanks

Bring the test up to 600mg. I haven't tried npp but many of the people who have say ed injections or eod will yeild better results. You should up the npp to 100mg eod and up the d-bol to 50 mg ed. That's really all you should do. Someone else will chime in with probably better advice.

 

[Mrpumped]

Bring the test up to 600mg. I haven't tried npp but many of the people who have say ed injections or eod will yeild better results. You should up the npp to 100mg eod and up the d-bol to 50 mg ed. That's really all you should do. Someone else will chime in with probably better advice.

Oh, I forgot to mention start packing some food since your on the go so much. If you don't eat you're really not going to grow.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Bring the test up to 600mg. I haven't tried npp but many of the people who have say ed injections or eod will yeild better results. You should up the npp to 100mg eod and up the d-bol to 50 mg ed. That's really all you should do. Someone else will chime in with probably better advice.

Yea I guess its time to bump it up- I've been doing the same doses for almost three years now. Its hard to get the cals up when I need to eat on the go but I'll try. Last time I was using NLarge and whey/milk/natty peanut butter in between meals to get up there in calories. I could go back to eating cans of tuna all day but that got tiring. I'll try the NPP eod and move up to 45-50mg dbol. Maybe next time I'll try Drol with the NPP/test combo.

Any more ideas?

 

[X Man]

i think its just from being on so long... i would be willing to be most bros on here who are on year round, get up to a gram of test during their " cycles" well maintaing at 250. BUT you know ur body best.


i am doing a sust-npp combo shooting 200mgs of npp and 250mgs sust e3d. i think im gunan throw in some eq @ 500mgs to really spark my appetite, i feel like i can only eat soooo much--my boys on EQ are eating 24-7

 

[Mac173]

i think its just from being on so long... i would be willing to be most bros on here who are on year round, get up to a gram of test during their " cycles" well maintaing at 250. BUT you know ur body best.


i am doing a sust-npp combo shooting 200mgs of npp and 250mgs sust e3d. i think im gunan throw in some eq @ 500mgs to really spark my appetite, i feel like i can only eat soooo much--my boys on EQ are eating 24-7

Eq doesn't affect everyones appetite. That is one of the main reasons I threw it in this cycle but it didn't do much in that area.

 

[Nighthawkk]

i think its just from being on so long... i would be willing to be most bros on here who are on year round, get up to a gram of test during their " cycles" well maintaing at 250. BUT you know ur body best.


i am doing a sust-npp combo shooting 200mgs of npp and 250mgs sust e3d. i think im gunan throw in some eq @ 500mgs to really spark my appetite, i feel like i can only eat soooo much--my boys on EQ are eating 24-7

Have you ever done EQ? I'd like to try it when I start cutting. I think maybe getting used to the same compounds may make you plateau, because I know when I started using new AAS like tren and winny I started seeing great results since I was a first-timer with them.

 

[X Man]

Have you ever done EQ? I'd like to try it when I start cutting. I think maybe getting used to the same compounds may make you plateau, because I know when I started using new AAS like tren and winny I started seeing great results since I was a first-timer with them.

no ive never done eq.....


obviously everyone reacts differen to differnet things....

but to help you with ur questions im gunna say that those doses are relatively low for someone who is on year round, however u know ur body best, if u need that low of dosage to be good then run it, but maybe now ur starting to see you need to add a little more.


ulter might have some good aice here

 

[solidspine]

The d-bol should be working, what kind of gear are you on.

Plateau issue is a none issue if you are using different gear.

You should be seeing some real changes with NPP and D-bol’’’


Your strength will be the first

Hitting plateaus seems to be the most distressing thing in bodybuilding so any advice is much appreciated, thanks

Avoiding and working around injuries is a big part of it too.

 

[gsxr_jason]

im on sus 300eod and npp100 eod at week 2 can feel my pumps going up a lil
bit

 

[Nighthawkk]

The d-bol should be working, what kind of gear are you on.

Plateau issue is a none issue if you are using different gear.

You should be seeing some real changes with NPP and D-bol’’’

It's karachi sust/CLP npp/thai dbol in the doses listed at the top. Don't get wrong, strength is definitely up, but the mass is slightly lacking for this sort of stack.