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Shout out to Nelson on his Perfect Cycle

Bro I kid you not,I was suprised how my body responded,but also my diet was on spot too. I do plan on doing it again,but my next cycle with primo will be 12 to 14 weeks,I got so excited about the primo that when the cycle had ended I got my hands on a lot of it,and I mean a lot lol.
 
jroc86 said:
Of course you dont feel shut down, the enthanate is just starting to kick... fuck guys.

After it's left his system? Dude, you're mistaken. I don't know where you're getting your info from but it doesn't work like that
 
Nelson Montana said:
Granted, terms like "kicked in" and "shut down" are really just "made up" terminology. But just because gais will be minimal on Primo doesn't make it a waste. Even 3-4 pounds is better than you'd get training naturally for a year. And it is possible in a month. (But any shorter would be a waste).


Agreed. I tried primo once and was not impressed. But I think it was way underdosed. it was from a lab that was busted. I will give it one more shot and see what happens. What dose would you recommend for a 14-16 week cycle?
 
Studies on the pharmacodynamics of testosterone enanthate have shown it to be active for up to and past 25 days, the figure I am looking at, which is a study that compared serum test, DHT, LH, FSH, showed that at day 25 there was over 10ng/ml in serum. That amount would still be noticeable. Just saying. Study is by Schulte-Beerbuhl M, and Nieschlag E. In Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980): 201-3.
 
sensational said:
Studies on the pharmacodynamics of testosterone enanthate have shown it to be active for up to and past 25 days, the figure I am looking at, which is a study that compared serum test, DHT, LH, FSH, showed that at day 25 there was over 10ng/ml in serum. That amount would still be noticeable. Just saying. Study is by Schulte-Beerbuhl M, and Nieschlag E. In Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980): 201-3.


That is questionable but considering half lives, even if it were still active it would be at such a small percentage it'd be inconsequential. Besides, jroc was suggesting it was "just starting to kick in" which makes no sense.

Pat: I think 400 mgs of Primo along with some test would make a nice 14 weeker. I don;t like long cycles but Primo is pretty easy to recover from with proper PCT. What elfman did was good but I'd add some HCG to the end of your cycle.
 
Nelson Montana said:
That is questionable but considering half lives, even if it were still active it would be at such a small percentage it'd be inconsequential. Besides, jroc was suggesting it was "just starting to kick in" which makes no sense.

Pat: I think 400 mgs of Primo along with some test would make a nice 14 weeker. I don;t like long cycles but Primo is pretty easy to recover from with proper PCT. What elfman did was good but I'd add some HCG to the end of your cycle.

Not criticizing your cycle Nelson, I like the idea, just posting what I understood to be the pharmacodynamics of the enanthate ester (obviously, there will be variance, and mathematically, it should be less in the blood stream by then).
 
sensational said:
Not criticizing your cycle Nelson, I like the idea, just posting what I understood to be the pharmacodynamics of the enanthate ester (obviously, there will be variance, and mathematically, it should be less in the blood stream by then).


No prob bro. Again, I was addressing the fact that the T had already kicked in and was waning, not just "starting."
 
well I think what we have to put straight is the term of "kick in", people refers to it when you start to notice real changes in your body, that's why we all say test e kicks in about 3-4 weeks, not that the first 500 mg. werent working from day one, it's just that you need more that just 500 mg. to make a noticeable changes in your body... that's why, that by week 3 - 4, you have gotten in your body the enought ammount of test to see changes in your strenght, weight, muscles etc etc.. that's the peek... It's pretty stupid to think it starts to work only after 3 weeks, when it's half life is only 10 days long...
 
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