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Mr Anonymous

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Ok firstly I'm probably going to get flamed for being a 19 year old using steroids but I will admit it was a mistake.

Anyway I'm 7 weeks into a cycle, made no gains at all because to be perfectly honest I don't train much and eat like shit. Because of these things roids obviously weren't any good for me but I have a severe case of body dysmorphia so I guess I did it out of desperation. What I want to do now is stop what I'm doing asap. So is it safe to come off half way through a cycle? Also I need some PCT advice because I don't trust this guy who's selling me the gear really and would rather hear what others think I should do.

Btw I'm taking 500mg test E, 100mg deca per week.

So any advice would be appreciated and yes I'm an idiot.
 
Mr Anonymous said:
Ok firstly I'm probably going to get flamed for being a 19 year old using steroids but I will admit it was a mistake.

Anyway I'm 7 weeks into a cycle, made no gains at all because to be perfectly honest I don't train much and eat like shit. Because of these things roids obviously weren't any good for me but I have a severe case of body dysmorphia so I guess I did it out of desperation. What I want to do now is stop what I'm doing asap. So is it safe to come off half way through a cycle? Also I need some PCT advice because I don't trust this guy who's selling me the gear really and would rather hear what others think I should do.

Btw I'm taking 500mg test E, 100mg deca per week.

So any advice would be appreciated and yes I'm an idiot.
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OK, you've avoided flamage (at least from me) by being humble and admitting your mistake. Starting to work out in desparation to help your body dismorphia would have been a much better choice.

First off, stop the deca right away. That'll be the hardest to recover from but at least you only did 100mg/wk.

Drop back to 100mg/wk of test-e for 2 weeks to let the deca work out of your system. If you can get HCG, inject 500IU of that EOD for 20 days after you stop the test-e.

After that you could try one of the products from needtobuildmuscle.com to try and keep some energy and avoid depression while your testosterone is low over the next 3 weeks.

Stay on this site and get familar with the diet and training forums and start building your body the right way. There is plenty of help here for people who are willing to put in the effort.


Good Luck!
 
And do you have any AAS sides do you know it was real gear?
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Acne, face looks slightly swollen, testicles feel sort of hard.

Anyway this guy who sells the stuff actually made out I was doing a good thing and told me all the health benefits testosterone has and that the media just makes steroids sound bad. He more or less gave the impression that everyone should be injecting this stuff.

Btw how long does it actually take for sides to wear off? Also was this enough to stunt my growth? I actually feel like I'm tall enough but just wondering...
 
Mr Anonymous said:
Acne, face looks slightly swollen, testicles feel sort of hard.

Anyway this guy who sells the stuff actually made out I was doing a good thing and told me all the health benefits testosterone has and that the media just makes steroids sound bad. He more or less gave the impression that everyone should be injecting this stuff.

Btw how long does it actually take for sides to wear off? Also was this enough to stunt my growth? I actually feel like I'm tall enough but just wondering...
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only bloodwork can tell ,at your age you have enough test flowing thru your blood stream to do pretty much anything.
use it to build a solid foundation and if you wish to excell in your quest pm me i have over 35 yrs in the field.
 
good luck I feel bad for you. you will eventually recover but the next month or two will be rough time for you as the body recovers.

you aren't the first 19 year old to do it, many on here did it at 19... its too bad you didn't stumble on this site 7 weeks ago. now that you have i would take advantage

run a PCT

oh and the person who sold you those steroids and said it was good for a 19 year old, I would report to the authorities, they should be in jail
 
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oh and the person who sold you those steroids and said it was good for a 19 year old, I would report to the authorities, they should be in jail
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Steroids pretty much sit in a grey area in Britain so I'm not sure what the law is about age really.

Ok so this is what I have so far:

stop deca all together
test e 100mg for 2 weeks

After 2 weeks inject 500IU of HCG every... how many days would you say? for 20 days

Also I didn't mention that I take 25mg Proviron per week so should I keep that at the same dose?

Start taking unleashed

I also read that I should use Aromasin but not sure when or how much?


So anybody confirm that this is what I should be doing?

Oh and I can't find the forma stanzol stuff in the UK. Other stuff is easy to get because it's all legal here.

Thanks
 
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STOP everything.. the sooner you quit the easier it will be to recover from your mistake!!

and start running a PCT. PCT is a personal thing so no one can tell you an exact strategy, but since you had no gains i would do the following.

you are not gonna want to run hcg 20 weeks! I would run it for 1 month only. inject 500-1000iu's every 4th day. you can run some AI's and supps but i honestly dont think it matters cause you didn't have any gains anyway so who cares... lets just focus on helping ur body create its own testosterone.

so 1 month of hcg, then let your body take over from there. thats it. again you had NO GAINS so your only goal from a PCT is to get your balls back running PERIOD. it will take you 3-4 months to fully recover.. deca can take some time.
 
whoops I meant to say 20 days for the hcg (changed it) Anyway if I run 500IU for a month every 4th day then I probably need to buy about 4000IU of the stuff, correct?

Should I stop proviron as well?
 
Mr Anonymous said:
whoops I meant to say 20 days for the hcg (changed it) Anyway if I run 500IU for a month every 4th day then I probably need to buy about 4000IU of the stuff, correct?

Should I stop proviron as well?
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Gezzz! stop everything even the proviron


4000ius is correct ,however i doubt you will need only half that amount unleashed & HCGenerate is pretty good stuff,get 2 bottles of each.
 
Ok I think I've got it now :)

Now I just need to find somewhere in the UK that I can get HCG. As a last resort I'll buy it from the guy who sold me the roids but I'd rather not.
 
I hate to play devil's advocate here (on the pct thing, not the age! 19 is too young/and too inexperienced/dedicated). You will likely be perfectly fine just stopping everything cold turkey. You only did 500mg of test with 100 mg of deca per week for 7 weeks. You may feel a little like crap for a few weeks, but it won't be that bad. And, since you didn't gain shit on this cycle, you won't have much to lose, right? My 2 cents. Just get off of what you were on and let it go.

You're 19 and likely have a very strong natural test production, it isn't going to be too fucked from just 7 weeks. I've stopped cold turkey before after 8 week cycles and only used a bit of clomid or aromasin (anti-e) and was fine. Would have been fine without them. Don't over complicate it. If you can't get ahold of hcg, don't worry about it. I've never used it and I'm 31 and have been cycling for 5 years and always recover without it. You're 19, you are likely going to be just fine. Your dick won't fall off or anything.

Good luck man.

P.S. Everyone on here is giving good advice. I just felt the kid should not get over-whelmed/over-worried about every detail. Guys in the 70s used to have jack-shit for pct and made it ok. Especially if we're not worried about losing precious gains- which is half of what the pct is for imo. So, no disrespect to anyone. Just stating the flip-side of the coin.
 
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Ok I think I've got it now :)

Now I just need to find somewhere in the UK that I can get HCG. As a last resort I'll buy it from the guy who sold me the roids but I'd rather not.
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mrsupps.com for the forma.. I believe radar posted a discount code for you also.

Also.. 25mg a week of proviron?
Not only is your juice guy an idiot for recommending all this to a 19 yo.. but he shouldn't be giving any sort of advice to anybody.
 
mrsupps for the forma.. I believe radar posted a discount code for you also.
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Yeh I just wasn't sure about shipping to the UK. I've ordered stuff from the States before that took months to arrive.

Also.. 25mg a week of proviron?
Not only is your juice guy an idiot for recommending all this to a 19 yo.. but he shouldn't be giving any sort of advice to anybody.
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I'm starting to think he is an idiot but I'm just curious now what was wrong with taking the proviron like that? And I think this guy would have reccommended this to a 9 year old so he could make a profit =S

You're 19 and likely have a very strong natural test production, it isn't going to be too fucked from just 7 weeks. I've stopped cold turkey before after 8 week cycles and only used a bit of Clomid or Aromasin (Anti-E) and was fine. Would have been fine without them. Don't over complicate it. If you can't get ahold of hcg, don't worry about it. I've never used it and I'm 31 and have been cycling for 5 years and always recover without it. You're 19, you are likely going to be just fine. Your dick won't fall off or anything.
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Well that was what I wanted to hear but I'm just concerned that others are saying different. Maybe I should just use something to boost my natural test a little. That's always a good thing right?
 
I never worry about HCG because i never have any problems ,it wasn't around when i trained hardcore yrs ago and doesn't bother me now tho i still train hardcore, HCG just makes for a softer landing.
 
Mr Anonymous said:
Acne, face looks slightly swollen, testicles feel sort of hard.

Anyway this guy who sells the stuff actually made out I was doing a good thing and told me all the health benefits testosterone has and that the media just makes steroids sound bad. He more or less gave the impression that everyone should be injecting this stuff.

Btw how long does it actually take for sides to wear off? Also was this enough to stunt my growth? I actually feel like I'm tall enough but just wondering...
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^ this is right, what this dipshit failed to mention is that juice is NOT MEANT FOR A 19 YEAR OLD KID WHO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DIET AND TRAIN....then the person develops major issues and the media reports about the devil drugsssssss....

The ass clown who told you all this should take an Olympic bar in the ass...


~EZ
 
Mr Anonymous said:
Well that was what I wanted to hear but I'm just concerned that others are saying different. Maybe I should just use something to boost my natural test a little. That's always a good thing right?
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I agree. I guess I was just stating the other extreme. I've done it the way I've stated and came out ok. But, the main thing is not to get to worked up, overwhelmed with too much info. Just about any sane way you go will be fine. Good luck man.
 
^ this is right, what this dipshit failed to mention is that juice is NOT MEANT FOR A 19 YEAR OLD KID WHO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DIET AND TRAIN....then the person develops major issues and the media reports about the devil drugsssssss....

The ass clown who told you all this should take an Olympic bar in the ass...


~EZ
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Well despite all the negative stuff you hear, I always did think steroids were harmless to older experienced body builders who knew what they were doing. Then this dealer (who actually is a pretty muscular guy) tells me he used steroids when he was young and he's also lazy and doesn't eat properly made me believe I would benefit from it. But lets face it... it's not 100% his fault, I was pretty naive to be taken in by that.


The general opinion here seems to be that I'm ok and that I don't really need anything like hcg. I might still use a few test boosting supps though. Anyway I think that's all I need from you guys so thanks for all the help on that. I'm going to take it easy for a few months then I might look into starting a proper workout plan and will probably come back here for advice on a few things.

Thanks again
 
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