Should i go on hrt ??

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Ok heres my back groung guys i'll try to make it simple:

i'm 42,training since 5 years(but did sports all my life,including alot of mountain biking)

210 lbs 5'9'' 13 % bf

3 small cycles in 2 years first cycle:winstrol tabs for 2 months
second cycle(a year later):turanabol only cycle 50 mgs/day 2 months

thrird cycle:Eq 400 mgs/week and 40 mgs turanabol/day for 2 momths.

The first 2 cycles i took tribulus for pct,the third i took hcg at 500 iu twice a week,started at my last eq injection.

After my second cycle i did a blood test and everything was normal including my total testosterone,but 2 months after my last cycle(eq and turanabol)my blood draw was as follow: total test;5 nmol/l (reference being 10-30 nmol/l)
free test;141 pnml/l (reference being 198-761 pmol/l)
bioavailable test;2.9 nmol/l(reference being 4.0-15.6 nmol/l)

My doc prescribed me androgel telling me i could be on hrt...

Curently i'm on:

10 grams of androgel/day- 1-8 weeks (10 grams is equivalent to 100 mgs of testosterone refering to the sayings of the manufacturer)
40 mgs turanabol 1-8 weeks
hcg 1000-2 times week 3 (in order to give a boost to my hpta)
hcg 100 iu ed weeks 3 to 8
aramidex .25 mgs eod weeks 3 to 8

My question is should i simply go on hrt for the rest of my life or do u think i could restart my hpta with the hcg and adex protocol i'm doing?Anyway what would u guys do?What kind of pct rpotocol would u do?Should i just stay on androgel and forget about trying to recover my hpta?Help would realy be appreciated guys thanks!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ok heres my back groung guys i'll try to make it simple:

i'm 42,training since 5 years(but did sports all my life,including alot of mountain biking)

210 lbs 5'9'' 13 % bf

3 small cycles in 2 years first cycle:winstrol tabs for 2 months
second cycle(a year later):turanabol only cycle 50 mgs/day 2 months

thrird cycle:Eq 400 mgs/week and 40 mgs turanabol/day for 2 momths.

The first 2 cycles i took tribulus for pct,the third i took hcg at 500 iu twice a week,started at my last eq injection.

After my second cycle i did a blood test and everything was normal including my total testosterone,but 2 months after my last cycle(eq and turanabol)my blood draw was as follow: total test;5 nmol/l (reference being 10-30 nmol/l)
free test;141 pnml/l (reference being 198-761 pmol/l)
bioavailable test;2.9 nmol/l(reference being 4.0-15.6 nmol/l)

My doc prescribed me androgel telling me i could be on hrt...

Curently i'm on:

10 grams of androgel/day- 1-8 weeks (10 grams is equivalent to 100 mgs of testosterone refering to the sayings of the manufacturer)
40 mgs turanabol 1-8 weeks
hcg 1000-2 times week 3 (in order to give a boost to my hpta)
hcg 100 iu ed weeks 3 to 8
aramidex .25 mgs eod weeks 3 to 8

My question is should i simply go on hrt for the rest of my life or do u think i could restart my hpta with the hcg and adex protocol i'm doing?Anyway what would u guys do?What kind of pct rpotocol would u do?Should i just stay on androgel and forget about trying to recover my hpta?Help would realy be appreciated guys thanks!

If you're on androgel, you're on HRT. Your natural youthful levels won't be coming back. Add some dex, HMG, POST CYCLE and UNLEASHED to that TRT bro. You'll feel a lot better.

 

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If you're on androgel, you're on HRT. Your natural youthful levels won't be coming back. Add some dex, HMG, POST CYCLE and UNLEASHED to that TRT bro. You'll feel a lot better.

Ok thanks for the advice Nelson,but just one thing,when u say to ad those supps and hmg etc do u mean all the time or should i cycle thems?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ok thanks for the advice Nelson,but just one thing,when u say to ad those supps and hmg etc do u mean all the time or should i cycle thems?

Dex and supps non stop. HMG or HCG every once in a while.

 

[fast_lane]

Dex and supps non stop. HMG or HCG every once in a while.

Cool thanks bro!

 

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Dex and supps non stop. HMG or HCG every once in a while.

But hey thinkin about it...Whats the point for hmg or hcg if anyways i'm on hrt...My hpta is going to be completely shut down anyways right?

 

[HAYEZ]

hcg will get ur nuts up to size..really not needed all that often...if i were you id ask for injections..

 

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10 grams of androgel/day- 1-8 weeks (10 grams is equivalent to 100 mgs of testosterone refering to the sayings of the manufacturer)

Wow, thats a lot of gel. You have to apply that much a day?

Also Nelson, why would it not be worth trying an HMG, or a rFSH + hCG low dose weekly protocol to see if it would not stimulate his endogenous testosterone production? I am curious if this is ever tried before HRT, or do Doctors just jump right to Androgel?

 

[fast_lane]

hcg will get ur nuts up to size..really not needed all that often...if i were you id ask for injections..

Ok just for the nuts ...loll weel that a good point forshure!Ya i'm tryn hard for injections but is there realy a big difference?

 

[HAYEZ]

injections less of a hassle plus you have a script for tesr...travel with gear!

 

[needtogetaas]

hcg will get ur nuts up to size..really not needed all that often...if i were you id ask for injections..

Ya that androgel sucks nuts.

 

[needtogetaas]

Ok just for the nuts ...loll weel that a good point forshure!Ya i'm tryn hard for injections but is there realy a big difference?

simple. Get a can of dermacrin. Put a ton of it on and then go tanning for 10 mins. Instant rash. Then go tell your doctor you can no longer thake the androgel because it made you brake out in a rash.. He will be forced to give you the injects.

Dont worry rash goes away in a week.

 

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Wow, thats a lot of gel. You have to apply that much a day?

Also Nelson, why would it not be worth trying an HMG, or a rFSH + hCG low dose weekly protocol to see if it would not stimulate his endogenous testosterone production? I am curious if this is ever tried before HRT, or do Doctors just jump right to Androgel?

Ya well thats alot of gel forshure and this isnt exacly what my doc prescribed me,i managed to have to prescriptions from 2 different doctors so i'm doubling my dose...lol

 

[fast_lane]

simple. Get a can of dermacrin. Put a ton of it on and then go tanning for 10 mins. Instant rash. Then go tell your doctor you can no longer thake the androgel because it made you brake out in a rash.. He will be forced to give you the injects.

Dont worry rash goes away in a week.

Nice trick i'll try that one..

 

[Nelson Montana]

Wow, thats a lot of gel. You have to apply that much a day?

Also Nelson, why would it not be worth trying an HMG, or a rFSH + hCG low dose weekly protocol to see if it would not stimulate his endogenous testosterone production? I am curious if this is ever tried before HRT, or do Doctors just jump right to Androgel?

For a guy in his 30's who never cycled--sure. But HCG isn't a cure. The effects where off. Your natty T will only go as high as it's going to go.