Should I be Disturbed About This?

[Voijn]

I think its important to remember that those of us who see bodybuilding as a sport, are truely aware of that its more then a sport. It is a life style
Poeople that do sports, need to do sports to become better.

But when talking about bodybuilding or strength training, its more then doing the actual sport.
1. You got to eat right, depending on your goals you either bulk or cut / mentain
2. You follow a training regime, that has some kind of progression into it
3. You got to respekt your body, giving it time to recover by sleeping and resting enough
4. Supplements like vitamins - minerals + weightgainers + proteinpowder + kreatin ect. Might be a good start before going into using steroides
5. When every of following 1-4 are totally undercontrole and 100% you might be readdy to go use steroids

Rules of my oppinion:
You gotta learn the basics

Diet is key to success in this game, if you arent gaining without steroids your not going to gains with steroids. Diet must be good, and better when going on
knowing wich exercises and how they work, imo its stupid making 6exercises for a muscle so small as biceps.. by doing back you can actually smash em hard.. just my oppinion
Age; 21 and minimum have a good fundament for doing roids
3-4years of minimum training, longer is better.

 

[J Nicholas]

Well I don't really see why you should be so surprised. You see it all the time at the gym. Young dudes that never touched a weight till they bought some juice. Now they're gonna blow up on sauce with a bunch of temporary mass that looks weird because they only know like 3 exercises. Those guys are ALWAYS gone within a year. They were never bodybuilders to begin with and they'll just spend the rest of their days trying to tell people how big they used to be. I think that cases like that are actually in the majority. Its a small minority of us who lift because we love it, and don't need any inspiration to come in a vial. I'm not trying to be a hater, it just seems to me that those short timers greatly outnumber the serious lifters.

 

[stevesmi]

I think the sweet spot for men whes it comes to sex or bodybuilding is 30-40. seems like we've got the experience, the maturity, the resources to really take this sport seriously.

I think the perfect time to start juicing is the very late 20's.. like 28 area. then by the time you are in your 30's you are really able to push the limits. the young guys have to understand the avg age of Mr. Olympia is 34 years old. and there was a guy who won it in his mid 40's. so spend your 20's building a base.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I think the sweet spot for men whes it comes to sex or bodybuilding is 30-40. seems like we've got the experience, the maturity, the resources to really take this sport seriously.

I think the perfect time to start juicing is the very late 20's.. like 28 area. then by the time you are in your 30's you are really able to push the limits. the young guys have to understand the avg age of Mr. Olympia is 34 years old. and there was a guy who won it in his mid 40's. so spend your 20's building a base.

thats because they started gear at 20 and have a solid 10-20 years of lifting right, and using gear under their belts.

and im not just saying that to be an idiot and challenge this post lol. i agree that you need to have a solid foundation and have your diet and training in check.

do you think a 21 year old who has been training since they were 14 is more suited to use gear,

or a 28 year old who has lifted for a year or two?

 

[stevesmi]

for me i started lifting at 15 and didn't run my first cycle till 29. i had a very solid foundation and built up a lot of knowledge with nutrition etc.

most of us are not gonna compete, we are gym rats. most roid users that is. i have no desire to compete, i just want to look good and excell at this lifestyle

 

[Zyglamail]

I gotta play devils advocate here for a second as I have seen a lot of guys in their 30's complain about guys in there 20's using gear.

From a well documented study average ng/dl of men age x were..

<25 692
25-29 669
30-34 621
35-39 597

My stance has nothing to do with natty test levels and everything to do with time invested at the gym and learning about training and nutrition.

 

[Arabian]

I was just thinking the same thing, all sorts of 20 year old guys >5'9" 180lbs or less want to jump on the sauce. Im baffled how none of them can get to at least 200 if not 220+ naturally within a few years of training.

Absolutely, It always gets the worse this time of year , because they think they can magically inject muscle and in 8 weeks have a beach body.

 

[jmat2407]

My stance has nothing to do with natty test levels and everything to do with time invested at the gym and learning about training and nutrition.

Fair enough, at least the part about learning proper training and nutrition.

Myself personally don't care all that much about how much total time someone has invested it the gym as much as I care about actual quality time spent in the gym.

What I meen by that is theres a lot of guys, even on this very site, that state they have 5, 10, 15+ years of lifting experience but yet you look at there bodies and you just don't see it.

Basically all I'm trying to say is there is no set in stone guidelines for who should and should not start AAS so trying to put at age, weight, years lifting, etc requirement just isn't the right way to go about it. Every individual is different and not everyone has the same goals.

Now, that was all a good bit off topic from Nelson's original post. Lol. I do agree with him about all these guys who know nothing about AAS buying a whole bunch of gear then asking how should they should it. That is just plain dumb no doubt about that. Some of these post I see guys stating they've been researching the past few weeks, or hell even the past few days and think they know have enough knowledge to start a cycle. I spent months, literally months, of researching before I even thought I knew enough to begin a cycle. And I still have A LOT to learn.

 

[Stryker1992]

for me i started lifting at 15 and didn't run my first cycle till 29. i had a very solid foundation and built up a lot of knowledge with nutrition etc.

most of us are not gonna compete, we are gym rats. most roid users that is. i have no desire to compete, i just want to look good and excell at this lifestyle

Agreed!

 

[nerdalert1]

I see the same thing everyday over at 'ology too Nelson. Nobody reads the stickies or uses the search function, they are lazy. Which is why they want to jump on something before they have even tapped their genetic potential imo.