Should I be Disturbed About This?

[rouss]

I ask all sorts of questions , there just question. I ask questions about certaain steroids out of curiosity without any real plan of using that paticular one in the immiiate future

 

[Orly1115]

agree with you nelson

 

[Zyglamail]

if i could be 220 ripped naturally... lol

I wasnt implying ripped when I said 200 or 220, many people perform at their chosen task much better at 15% than they do <10%. I certainly wont fault someone for wanting to use AAS if they are 15-18% but then they should almost certainly be near 220lbs if the are 5'10 or taller and under 35 years old.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I wasnt implying ripped when I said 200 or 220, many people perform at their chosen task much better at 15% than they do <10%. I certainly wont fault someone for wanting to use AAS if they are 15-18% but then they should almost certainly be near 220lbs if the are 5'10 or taller and under 35 years old.

15-18% is my star bodyfat, in terms of mass and strength, although im sitting around 11 or 12% (or whatever i am in the avatar) and im liking it alot, and still putting up some of the best numbers iv ever done.

i feel so skinny in a shirt though hovering around 200 lol

 

[Stryker1992]

I see there are a lot of new members here. GREAT! EF is an awesome community and the best place to go to get information on all aspects of bodybuilding.

As far as steroid enhancement goes, I think it's terrific that people are asking questions. But I have to admit, I'm a bit dismayed by some of the questions I'm reading.

It seems as if there's a slew of new guys who really don't know anything at all about steroids and arent really willing to learn -- they just want to start using them and ask along the way what to do, what to expect, how to avoid this and that. Guys...this is stuff you should research for months, even years before you even consider a cycle.

Another thing that's disheartening is that it seems a lot of these guys don't know much about training. They figure they'll learn that along the way -- while they're using gear. Once again -- wrong song. You got the horse before the cart. Or, if you prefer, you're putting on the condom after you finished fucking.

Stick around. Remain curious. Be inquisitive. But this "I just got 10 vials of sus -- how do I use it?" type of shit is not what we're about. It's not what I'm about, at least.

Here at EF, we're committed to the pirsuit of a better body and looking and feeling better than the average joe. If you just want to be a little more buffed, hit the gym and bust your ass. We have a great training forum here. If you want a little edge, check out the supplements forum. But the anabolics forum is serious. Don't try to graduate medical school before finishing high school. Nobody moves on without their diploma.

Rant...done. Peace.

No bro.. you are spot on. all kinds of this lately and everyone is 18 to low 20's. It is insane. Apparently everyone the hits a Google button finds this place, which is very nice in many ways. i think the mature members here need to politely make sure that these people understand, get informed, and really do not get support in using. It is way too deleterious to their halth and most of them have not trained long enough nor completed growing naturally. It is scary.

 

[zedhed]

I agree Nelsone and all the rest. But it really makes me sad that this is the mentality not just here but everywhere. Here you have all these guyz that have no idea about what this stuff is. But they are willing to take some advice from who knows who and shoot some substance into themselves. That is what scares me so much. They just have no idea what kind of trouble that they can and so often do get into. Thats what keeps me patient with them all. To me that kind of damage potential is worth my (very limited) time to try talk some sense to them.

 

[Zyglamail]

i feel so skinny in a shirt though hovering around 200 lol

I hear ya, was 180lbs 12% when I graduated high school. Only once have I dropped below 220lbs, actually fell to 195lbs and it took (obviously stop working out) severe depression, eating once every 2 days and sleeping two hours a night for 6 months to get me there.

 

[jmat2407]

low 20's. It is insane. .

I gotta play devils advocate here for a second as I have seen a lot of guys in their 30's complain about guys in there 20's using gear.

From a well documented study average ng/dl of men age x were..

<25 692
25-29 669
30-34 621
35-39 597

So as you can see the average 34 year old isn't very far behind a 24 year old by any meens. Yet most would have no problems telling the 34 to go ahead and hop on a 500mg/week cycle that would send his ng/dl numbers to well over 2000. Which is many times beyond the 24 year olds level, the same level which in a different thread most would tell the 24 year old that his T levels are high enough to just train naturally and stay away from gear for now.

To sum it up its not so much the "high" test levels being the reason guys in the 20's shouldn't cycle as much as it is most have yet to build a solid foundation through a few years proper training and diet.

Just something to think about the next time you tell that half way in shape 18 % bf 34 y/o he has more right than the in shape 22 y/o to use gear simply because of his age and falsely assumed low test levels.

mmm playing devils advocate was fun.

Weight is subjective thing as well and deserves its own whole other rant. lol

 

[Essie]

If you do a search & read alot of my posts you will learn alot!

Hell ... I couldn't agree more!

 

[sterolizer]

Agreed with Montana. He couldn't have said it any better.