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Should George get rid of UNSIGNED negative karma?

Should George do away with unsigned negative karma?

  • Yes - get rid of it - it serves no constructive function.

    Votes: 11 37.9%
  • No - keep it - I like it.

    Votes: 7 24.1%
  • Get rid of the karma system altogether.

    Votes: 9 31.0%
  • Get rid of negative karma altogether.

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .

SofaGeorge

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I just got 4 red dots (negative karma) sent to me - all with the identical meesage line - "Here you go asshole!!" Of course none were signed, an it is obvious that the user has multiple accounts. The day before this, someone sent me negative karma and signed Addickt's name to it. (Addickt didn't send it.) I've had people do this in Cornholio's name, Pink233, and several others.

My question is: does it even serve any function to have unsigned negative karma? It doesn't seem like it is ever used as a tool for any constructive purpose. It just appears to be a mean spirited toy for cowardly personalities.

Is it time to do away with unsigned karma?
 
Yep, either tie a signature to it or get rid of it all together.

I have had someone sign a good friends name to bad karma that I have received, it's just another way for people to cause problems.:(
 
I agree. All karma should have the names of the user who sent it. Not only will it prevent pussies from sending bad karma without signing their name, but it will also save me typing time while im sending good karma. :)
 
:FRlol: :FRlol: Anybody noticed that the two pussies that voted to keep unsigned negative karma didn't have the balls to post about it. :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:
 
GET RID OF IT UNSIGNED NEGATIVE KARMA

NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE.

GET RID OF UNSIGNED KARMA ALTOGETHER.
 
Karma is gay and irrelevant to anything. Who gives a handicapped gophers scoliosis infested abdominal region about karma? Just log off.
 
SofaGeorge said:
I just got 4 red dots (negative karma) sent to me - all with the identical meesage line - "Here you go asshole!!" Of course none were signed, an it is obvious that the user has multiple accounts. The day before this, someone sent me negative karma and signed Addickt's name to it. (Addickt didn't send it.) I've had people do this in Cornholio's name, Pink233, and several others.

My question is: does it even serve any function to have unsigned negative karma? It doesn't seem like it is ever used as a tool for any constructive purpose. It just appears to be a mean spirited toy for cowardly personalities.

Is it time to do away with unsigned karma?

this has already been discussed with George....patience.
 
This is how this board works in a technical sense:

you log in, it looks at your username, and then converts your password via a one way hash and then takes that hash and goes to the magical database. it looks at your login name in the database, and then looks at the hashed password value that is there for it. if what you passed in is the same as what it finds in the database, then it authenticates you and sets a cookie. in the cookie is your username and your password hash. this allows you to view pages as logged in without having to keep logging in - there is also likely a session set for you.

Then you have the option to browse, post, do karma, etc etc.

Browsing sends a number into the database that represents the thread that you want to see. It finds all the threads that match that number (the number for this particular thread is "148353") and returns that and formats them so that they are all pretty for us to read.

Posting and replying to a thread are similar only they insert into the database. if it is a new thread, then it gets a new number that isn't there yet, and if you are replying, then it gets the number of a thread that exists and then it notes that post is the Nth number of that thread so that it can order it when it comes out.

Even PMs work the same way - but it (should) authenticate who can see it on either side, whereas the normal boards allow anyone to see posts (aside from the special ones that also authenticate - like the pay sections and the mod board).

Karma too works in this way. it looks at what post you are looking at, and it looks at what user ID you are, and who you want to send it to. It used to let you go all willy nilly and just keep giving it to the same person - it did a cursory check at various points as to how much you have given out and such, but they added more once people figured out ways around it - either via looking for it or serindipity. whether or not they used to have the feature, they have since indicated that they do have this feature now - when you give karma, it adds the ID of the person that gave it with it in the database.
they don't display this, b/c the point of karma isn't to get rude or pleasant messages from someone - that is what PMing is for. the point of karma is to reward or punish you for your deeds, whether good or bad, or if you are an unjust god, then you hurl insults in an arbitraty manner.

there is more complexity to it - but the point in the end - "we have the technology" - but the bigger picture is that what you are arguing for is both silly and against the grain of what karma should be.

now if you want to add a new button that says "send me a message and also increment/decrement some arbitrary number and know who did it" then that would be what you are proposing.
but that is in no way karmic - that is just a pm with a score associated with it.

just a reminder - this is all on a server sitting somewhere. all automated. we sit at various points about the world and bang on keyboards and get varied ressults on our screen depending on how the predefined patterns on the server react to what we bang on....
meaning - there is more to life than caring what that server thinks of us.
there really is no person on the other end - it is a server, there are an infinite number monkeys banging on it - but the karma is not a true value of your worth or how they feel of you, it is solely a side effect of actions taken against code on a server.

stand back and open your eyes, for you have much to see.
 
Re: Re: Re: Should George get rid of UNSIGNED negative karma?

SofaGeorge said:


:angel: Cornholio is a good Mod. :angel:

Translation:

people that agree and/or act on my actions, thoughts, and words, are good people.

the rest of you need to swallow a shotgun.


human behavior
 
HappyScrappy said:
This is how this board works in a technical sense:

you log in, it looks at your username, and then converts your password via a one way hash and then takes that hash and goes to the magical database. it looks at your login name in the database, and then looks at the hashed password value that is there for it. if what you passed in is the same as what it finds in the database, then it authenticates you and sets a cookie. in the cookie is your username and your password hash. this allows you to view pages as logged in without having to keep logging in - there is also likely a session set for you.

Then you have the option to browse, post, do karma, etc etc.

Browsing sends a number into the database that represents the thread that you want to see. It finds all the threads that match that number (the number for this particular thread is "148353") and returns that and formats them so that they are all pretty for us to read.

Posting and replying to a thread are similar only they insert into the database. if it is a new thread, then it gets a new number that isn't there yet, and if you are replying, then it gets the number of a thread that exists and then it notes that post is the Nth number of that thread so that it can order it when it comes out.

Even PMs work the same way - but it (should) authenticate who can see it on either side, whereas the normal boards allow anyone to see posts (aside from the special ones that also authenticate - like the pay sections and the mod board).

Karma too works in this way. it looks at what post you are looking at, and it looks at what user ID you are, and who you want to send it to. It used to let you go all willy nilly and just keep giving it to the same person - it did a cursory check at various points as to how much you have given out and such, but they added more once people figured out ways around it - either via looking for it or serindipity. whether or not they used to have the feature, they have since indicated that they do have this feature now - when you give karma, it adds the ID of the person that gave it with it in the database.
they don't display this, b/c the point of karma isn't to get rude or pleasant messages from someone - that is what PMing is for. the point of karma is to reward or punish you for your deeds, whether good or bad, or if you are an unjust god, then you hurl insults in an arbitraty manner.

there is more complexity to it - but the point in the end - "we have the technology" - but the bigger picture is that what you are arguing for is both silly and against the grain of what karma should be.

now if you want to add a new button that says "send me a message and also increment/decrement some arbitrary number and know who did it" then that would be what you are proposing.
but that is in no way karmic - that is just a pm with a score associated with it.

just a reminder - this is all on a server sitting somewhere. all automated. we sit at various points about the world and bang on keyboards and get varied ressults on our screen depending on how the predefined patterns on the server react to what we bang on....
meaning - there is more to life than caring what that server thinks of us.
there really is no person on the other end - it is a server, there are an infinite number monkeys banging on it - but the karma is not a true value of your worth or how they feel of you, it is solely a side effect of actions taken against code on a server.

stand back and open your eyes, for you have much to see.
Jesus!
 
I could totally see this being a valid thing to contemplate or even care about were the karma linked to reality.

Like, say I pressed on supersizeme's karma button and wrote "eat shit and die monkeyboy - love The Project" and then gave him *gasp* NEGATIVE karma!! good lord.
In "reality" where we live, what happens? nothing. hot damn.

but say things changed and that after I did that, mafia goons went to his house and killed his cats and anally violated him because they in fact do anything The Project so desires.
This would indeed be a tragic occurrance, because The Project in fact really had nothing to do with it, it was just a terrible mistake.
were that the case, then I would agree, that is a fucked up system and we should get rid of it.

But that doesn't happen - so I'm not seeing why anyone cares.

if anyone can explain to me why they care so much, then perhaps I would change my mind and fight for the cause.
 
HappyScrappy said:
I could totally see this being a valid thing to contemplate or even care about were the karma linked to reality.

Like, say I pressed on supersizeme's karma button and wrote "eat shit and die monkeyboy - love The Project" and then gave him *gasp* NEGATIVE karma!! good lord.
In "reality" where we live, what happens? nothing. hot damn.

but say things changed and that after I did that, mafia goons went to his house and killed his cats and anally violated him because they in fact do anything The Project so desires.
This would indeed be a tragic occurrance, because The Project in fact really had nothing to do with it, it was just a terrible mistake.
were that the case, then I would agree, that is a fucked up system and we should get rid of it.

But that doesn't happen - so I'm not seeing why anyone cares.

if anyone can explain to me why they care so much, then perhaps I would change my mind and fight for the cause.
No no, and maybe I'm way off, my "jesus" was like "wow", this man is brilliant, you know? peace
 
Good Post HS!.. I'd send you Karma but I have to spread it around first !...

HappyScrappy said:
This is how this board works in a technical sense:

you log in, it looks at your username, and then converts your password via a one way hash and then takes that hash and goes to the magical database. it looks at your login name in the database, and then looks at the hashed password value that is there for it. if what you passed in is the same as what it finds in the database, then it authenticates you and sets a cookie. in the cookie is your username and your password hash. this allows you to view pages as logged in without having to keep logging in - there is also likely a session set for you.

Then you have the option to browse, post, do karma, etc etc.

Browsing sends a number into the database that represents the thread that you want to see. It finds all the threads that match that number (the number for this particular thread is "148353") and returns that and formats them so that they are all pretty for us to read.

Posting and replying to a thread are similar only they insert into the database. if it is a new thread, then it gets a new number that isn't there yet, and if you are replying, then it gets the number of a thread that exists and then it notes that post is the Nth number of that thread so that it can order it when it comes out.

Even PMs work the same way - but it (should) authenticate who can see it on either side, whereas the normal boards allow anyone to see posts (aside from the special ones that also authenticate - like the pay sections and the mod board).

Karma too works in this way. it looks at what post you are looking at, and it looks at what user ID you are, and who you want to send it to. It used to let you go all willy nilly and just keep giving it to the same person - it did a cursory check at various points as to how much you have given out and such, but they added more once people figured out ways around it - either via looking for it or serindipity. whether or not they used to have the feature, they have since indicated that they do have this feature now - when you give karma, it adds the ID of the person that gave it with it in the database.
they don't display this, b/c the point of karma isn't to get rude or pleasant messages from someone - that is what PMing is for. the point of karma is to reward or punish you for your deeds, whether good or bad, or if you are an unjust god, then you hurl insults in an arbitraty manner.

there is more complexity to it - but the point in the end - "we have the technology" - but the bigger picture is that what you are arguing for is both silly and against the grain of what karma should be.

now if you want to add a new button that says "send me a message and also increment/decrement some arbitrary number and know who did it" then that would be what you are proposing.
but that is in no way karmic - that is just a pm with a score associated with it.

just a reminder - this is all on a server sitting somewhere. all automated. we sit at various points about the world and bang on keyboards and get varied ressults on our screen depending on how the predefined patterns on the server react to what we bang on....
meaning - there is more to life than caring what that server thinks of us.
there really is no person on the other end - it is a server, there are an infinite number monkeys banging on it - but the karma is not a true value of your worth or how they feel of you, it is solely a side effect of actions taken against code on a server.

stand back and open your eyes, for you have much to see.
 
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