Short cycle plan...critique

[healthfrk]

This my second cycle, want to see if i recover better from a shorter cycle. Since my last cycle i have cut some weight and gotten my bf% down to 10%.
first cycle was dianabol/sust for 12 wks. currently 5'9" 170lbs

2nd cycle plan:
Wk 1 - 4: 40mg/day Dianabol
Wk 1 – 8: 400 mg/wk Sustanon
Wk 1 – 8: 4 Pumps/day Dermacrine

PCT:
10 Days after last inject. for 3 weeks
5 Pumps/day Dermacrine Sustain ED
Unleashed ED
Post Cycle ED

Will also have clomid on hand, what do you guys think, add it in or not? i know everyone seems to have a different opinion on clomid these days.

Diet is already planned out: 300g Carbs, 380g Protein, 70g Fat ED

Let me know what you guys think, any input is appreciated.

 

[chestrockwell420]

cycle looks pretty good.sust usually come sin 250mg/ml dosage, so why not run 500/week...just a suggestion. you should also include the clomid for every pct. i run 300mg day 1, day 2-11 100mg, day 12-21 50mg...good luck

 

[GUARDIAN]

how u planning to inject the sus? (ml & days)

sus shoud be eod imo.

 

[jumpmaster82]

how u planning to inject the sus? (ml & days)

sus shoud be eod imo.

yea it should to take advantage of the prop.

looks good. and dont run clomid during a cycle, only for pct. if you wana run an anti e during the cycle then run nova

 

[advanced-stealth]

Good advice^^^

 

[Maxx Out]

IMO, for short cycles, I like to run just fast acting aas. In quick, out quick, and no guessing games. Just some food for thought!

 

[centy]

Looks good. You've just posted up what my 2nd cycle will probably look like. I will add in some arimidex on cycle and a touch of HCG post cycle.

 

[healthfrk]

thanks guys. ill be injecting EOD like you siad to take advantage of the prop. also my bad i ment to say i have clomid should i use it in my PCT, obviously not a good idead to run it during the cycle. im also gonna get tomse a-dex for anti-e.

i only have enough test for 8 weeks at 400mg/wk being the highest dosage i can run in order to use it all up. and cant get prop but since sust has it in it figure its the next best thing.

any more suggestions on the clomid? i have it but would rather use it on another longer cycle rather than this one. but if it would be a big help in my PCT i wouldnt hesitate to throw it in. Needto, nelson...?

 

[needtogetaas]

thanks guys. ill be injecting EOD like you siad to take advantage of the testosterone propionate. also my bad i ment to say i have clomid should i use it in my PCT - post cycle therapy - , obviously not a good idead to run it during the cycle. im also gonna get tomse a-dex for anti-e.

i only have enough test for 8 weeks at 400mg/wk being the highest dosage i can run in order to use it all up. and cant get testosterone propionate but since Sustanon has it in it figure its the next best thing.

any more suggestions on the clomid? i have it but would rather use it on another longer cycle rather than this one. but if it would be a big help in my PCT i wouldnt hesitate to throw it in. Needto, nelson...?

be back in a bit.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Looks good. You've just posted up what my 2nd cycle will probably look like. I will add in some arimidex on cycle and a touch of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - post cycle.

Yep.

 

[perryscoon]

Why not throw in a little deca this time at 400mg EW? Don't do the same thing every time. You never know what you might be missing.

 

[needtogetaas]

This my second cycle, want to see if i recover better from a shorter cycle. Since my last cycle i have cut some weight and gotten my bf% down to 10%.
first cycle was dianabol/Sustanon for 12 wks. currently 5'9" 170lbs

2nd cycle plan:
Wk 1 - 4: 40mg/day Dianabol
Wk 1 – 8: 400 mg/wk Sustanon
Wk 1 – 8: 4 Pumps/day Dermacrine

PCT - post cycle therapy - :
10 Days after last inject. for 3 weeks
5 Pumps/day Dermacrine Sustain ED
Unleashed ED
Post Cycle ED

Will also have clomid on hand, what do you guys think, add it in or not? i know everyone seems to have a different opinion on clomid these days.

Diet is already planned out: 300g Carbs, 380g Protein, 70g Fat ED

Let me know what you guys think, any input is appreciated.

you can get 4 weeks 5 pumps ed out of the sustain bro. Other than that this looks like a really good cycle.
I mean you cvould go 10 weeks with the sust most people like that.

 

[hooligan2004]

for such a short cycle i would have to say that only 400mgs of sus is not gonna cut it especially if you dont plan on shooting that shit EOD i say 500 mgs because like a couple other guys said already is that it usually comes in 250 mg/ml

 

[bsdgeek]

shouldn't you add more carbs?? are you trying to bulk/gain weight?? if so, your diet numbers look a little skewed. jus my 2.

 

[healthfrk]

hooligan i will be shooting EOD, my first cycle was at 250mg/wk so this is a ramp up for myself. good lookin out tho bro.

thanks Needto i was a little unsure how long one bottle would last i was thinkin 3 weeks but 4 weeks will be nice. ill be sure to let you know how the sustain works.

bsdgeek, i posted up a thread about my diet a few days ago askin about how many carbs to take in. sadly no responses. i am lookin to gain som weight in this cycle while trying to minimize putting on fat. if you wouldnt mind exagerating on what you think my intake should look like, id really appreciate it. ive been tryin to get this one perfect.

 

[needtogetaas]

hooligan i will be shooting EOD, my first cycle was at 250mg/wk so this is a ramp up for myself. good lookin out tho bro.

thanks Needto i was a little unsure how long one bottle would last i was thinkin 3 weeks but 4 weeks will be nice. ill be sure to let you know how the sustain works.

bsdgeek, i posted up a thread about my diet a few days ago askin about how many carbs to take in. sadly no responses. i am lookin to gain som weight in this cycle while trying to minimize putting on fat. if you wouldnt mind exagerating on what you think my intake should look like, id really appreciate it. ive been tryin to get this one perfect.

we should all focus on things like this more. I think we should all do our part to get the diet boards going. Talk to tat for good diet advice though.

 

[healthfrk]

perryscoon...its only an 8 week cycle i dont see the point in putting deca in the mix. if i were gonna run deca the cycle would deffinatly be in the ballpark of 12 weeks.

appreciate it needto, trying to get this one right ya know. i agree i wouldnt mind some nice diet discussions going on around here

 

[xrsist]

use an AI like adex or aroma over nolva when on cycle. you know nolva only blocks estro..

 

[healthfrk]

thanks xrsist, will gettin some arimadex shortly

 

[bluejay]

Yea looks like you can up your carbs... At least to 400 grams minimum seeing that you weigh 170 & said you wanna gain.

 

[bsdgeek]

Yea looks like you can up your carbs... At least to 400 grams minimum seeing that you weigh 170 & said you wanna gain.

yeah, the ratios need to look like 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fats. that's a generic formula, but typically, you'll have a little more carbs than protein when bulking. like he said, 400 g carbs, would maybe have around 330-360 g proteins. those are the main numbers i try to watch, get some flax oil for your fats, as it's harder to get those good omegas without spending a shitload on groceries. well....that's i how i roll until i get my free e-book from needto

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think your dosages are fine. Train hard.

With the UNLEASHED, Derma and POST CYCLE you should need very little dexx-- 1/2 mg every 3 days and the only reason for that is both Sus and dball aromatize pretty heavily.

Also, just a little Hc G -- total of 500 iu's 3 days in a row one week after the last shot is all you need. Too much will cause an elevation in e. For that week use 1/2 mg dexx EOD. 2 weeks after the cycle lower it to 1/4 mg every 3 days and continue with the supps for another 6 weeks.

Let us know how it works out.

 

[healthfrk]

great info there nelson, ill be sure to let you guys know my results.