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self trt

pulled this from another forum... slightly off topic, BUT if you are "shut down" it seems as though there are options available


I've been seeing alot of people worried about infertility. Dug up a couple articles on pubmed for you guys. Seems like if you play the game safe, you should have no worries!

The reversibility of anabolic steroid-induced azoospermia.
Turek PJ, Williams RH, Gilbaugh JH 3rd, Lipshultz LI.

Scott Department of Urology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA.
Abstract
Anabolic steroid associated male infertility is a little known but potentially treatable form of drug related infertility. We report on a bodybuilder with a 5-year history of steroid use who was azoospermic. He underwent successful gonadotropin replacement and conception was achieved 3 months after therapy was initiated. Important diagnostic and therapeutic considerations in steroid-induced infertility are discussed.


Successful treatment of anabolic steroid-induced azoospermia with human chorionic gonadotropin and human menopausal gonadotropin.
Menon DK.

Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University Malaya Medical Centre, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. [email protected]
Comment in:

Fertil Steril. 2004 Jan;81(1):226.
Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To document for the first time the successful treatment using human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) and human menopausal gonadotropins (hMG) of anabolic steroid-induced azoospermia that was persistent despite 1 year of cessation from steroid use. DESIGN: Clinical case report. SETTINGS: Tertiary referral center for infertility. PATIENT(S): A married couple with primary subfertility secondary to azoospermia and male hypogonadotropic hypogonadism. The husband was a bodybuilder who admitted to have used the anabolic steroids testosterone cypionate, methandrostenolone, oxandrolone, testosterone propionate, oxymetholone, nandrolone decanoate, and methenolone enanthate. INTERVENTION(S): Twice-weekly injections of 10,000 IU of hCG (Profasi; Serono) and daily injections of 75 IU of hMG (Humegon; Organon) for 3 months. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE(S): Semen analyses, pregnancy. RESULT(S): Semen analyses returned to normal after 3 months of treatment. The couple conceived spontaneously 7 months later. CONCLUSION(S): Steroid-induced azoospermia that is persistent after cessation of steroid use can be treated successfully with hCG and hMG.
 
I jumped on the self trt bandwagon too a year ago. And that i see now, has been one of my life's best decisions thus far. I'm 38 and a half. I don't run hcg. Just said fck it. It has been 8 months now without hcg and although shrinkage is slightly more than what it would otherwise be when on a regular cycle and not on blasts and cruises, i dont have any problems at all.

I'm writing all this down for the records. Personal experience. No ejaculation problems either. No erection problems at all.

Only, my trt dosages are a little lower. I run 150mgs ew. Currently running 1050mgs and on a blast. Another piont worth mentioning is...when i run 150mgs TE ew, it actually amounts to a 103.5 mgs of ACTUAL TEST ew into your system. And that i guess is pretty reasonable decent dosage for someone on trt...

What say, DJ??


1050mgs on a blast? Thats a nuclear blast. How long do you run the TRT for then the atomic blast and then back to TRT?
 
damn i was about to bust your stones about your size loss but then i read your sig. that sucks man im glad to hear your back in the gym.
YA IM A TINY FUCKER NOW MAN.....havnt hit gym more then 5 times maybe in 6 months...i look rediculous...pot belly and man tits kicking..lost 1.5 in off arms...legs hahaha there sticks..back help strength but lost mad size...gonna dedlift next week for first time lol..scared man..

chest tho is worst...got some nerve damage from the injury my arm trmebles terribly under weight..just gonna stick to 225 bench and work my way up in reps...im honestly scared to even consider trying anything then low weight..just blast out craazy reps and say fuck it

this is my pre cycle pic about 213 or so..i wont post another till im 225-230 again
 
YA IM A TINY FUCKER NOW MAN.....havnt hit gym more then 5 times maybe in 6 months...i look rediculous...pot belly and man tits kicking..lost 1.5 in off arms...legs hahaha there sticks..back help strength but lost mad size...gonna dedlift next week for first time lol..scared man..

chest tho is worst...got some nerve damage from the injury my arm trmebles terribly under weight..just gonna stick to 225 bench and work my way up in reps...im honestly scared to even consider trying anything then low weight..just blast out craazy reps and say fuck it

this is my pre cycle pic about 213 or so..i wont post another till im 225-230 again

that sounds like a good plan to me. i wouldnt be going heavy yet. you will probably be back where you left off in a month man.
 
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