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Selective Scammer

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Moe

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Members of this board have had problems off and on with a certain international source (who will go unnamed as of now). I have discussed him with numerous Mods here and some have agreed that he may be a selective scammer. However, this particular source also has the strong suppost of one of the Elite Mods, and that support has gived said source some strong credibility. I am here to say that credibility is undeserved, bullshit even.

I was having problems with testicular atrophy (who hasn't), but I wanted to go to the doc to have my blod levels tested. The results I received were not encouraging.

My prolactin is through the roof, and both my free and available testosterone are low, yes, LOW. I find the later especially strange considering I am in the middle of a cycle consisting of 750 mg / week of Sust 250--Sust 250 I received from this "respected" source.

Mods, anyone...this shit needs to be brought to the forefront. Clearly this international fuck has sold me fakes, and it likely does not stop with me. We are all at risk. I know of quite a few of you who have used his services, and now this...

Be afraid, be very afraid.
 
Could we not list the source? Its only fair that others should know if they have been screwed as well.
 
What's the point of this thread ytou dont; tell us the source's name? Clearly if you aren't/weren't 99% sure of this source being a probelm and/or having problems, then you wouldn't have created this thread. It does no one (other then you and a select few others) any good if you don't tell us this guys's name so we can all steer clear of him...

I am sorry to hear about your blood work. That sucks! It's always good when ordering to stick with someone who is 100% legit. Then you never have to question anything at all, ever!
 
Sorry to hear that man, that sucks !

Can youa t least tell us which brand of sustanon you got ? We are all eager to know who it is.
 
Name and country are awaiting Mod approval. I can say however, that it is a South American country, and that he is moving Karachi Sust (looks 100% legit, and it used to be).

My tests do not lie. 750 mg / week for 8 weeks and overall test is LOW???

He is selling fakes!!!
 
Moe said:
Name and country are awaiting Mod approval. I can say however, that it is a South American country, and that he is moving Karachi Sust (looks 100% legit, and it used to be).

My tests do not lie. 750 mg / week for 8 weeks and overall test is LOW???

He is selling fakes!!!
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Macro is a mod and he asked for country of origin, so I think it's safe if you tell us the country. I have an idea of who you are refering to though.

-sk
 
Fair enough...

this guy is out of Peru...Lima to be exact.

More info will be available with Mod approval.
 
Moe said:
Fair enough...

this guy is out of Peru...Lima to be exact.

More info will be available with Mod approval.
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Ohhh boy. I know exactly who you are talking about...

C-ditty
 
Just an FYI, I don't think he may know he's selling fakes if indeed they are fakes. I ordered Primo from a source a while back and found out they were fake. But he e-mailed me before I had a chance and HE told ME they were fake and gave me other gear. My point is sources don't do tests on everything they sell and usually are selling what they got from another bigger source, not direct from the lab or anything.

BTW, I don't think you should've posted his country. It pretty much let's the cat out of the bag. Hell, posting his country is just as bad as posting his initials. I'd delete it or have a mod delete it.

I'm only saying this as you never know the full truth to something until you get both sides of the story. Although I was never impressed by his services he was always a genuinely nice guy and he may not know he's selling fakes, if indeed that's the case.

You or a mod should really delete the references to the country in this thread.
 
wyld1g said:
anyone know this dudes tipical eta?...
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3 weeks- 6 months
 
Some of you mods C-dit, know I have had bad probs too! Same guy!
 
I have had the same probs with MR.Peru

hey,
i stopped dealing with that piece of shit. he is a selective scammer. I never recieved any bum liquid from him but he was sketchy as shit on delivery. Do yourself a favor and not use him again. there is definitely a mod on this board who will tell you the same. Apparently you didn't check with him first. Sorry about the luck bro.

muay thai
 
Until you are 1 hundred and ten percent sure that he is a scammer, dont post this shit. Shit does happen, and he could be getting a bad rap over nothing. He is not even my source but I have some Kirachi sust, and just that alone is making me paranoid that there may be a batch of fakes floating around. Please dont be starting any of these rumors that seem to float around so easily.
 
Why in unholy hell are we beating around the bush? Let's either decide the claim is valid and burn the guy at the stake, or vise versa and shut this down. This is driving me crazy!


:insane:
 
Wyld1
Def not G...however it might be one of the other SA....im thinking the brothers.....A maybe, i know a time last year he was in the hospital and his brother took over and it put him behind in his orders......
 
ok, now that i know who it is:

Honestly...I doubt he's turning scammer. He was always a good bro. I wouldn't open my mouth until I was sure. I'll ask him about it and see what he says. I'm sure he has an explanation...besides everyone seems to know he's slow. If you can't deal with delays, don't use him...don't just call him a scammer. Delays are part of the game...people are just too inpatient these days...
 
"If you can't deal with delays, don't use him...don't just call him a scammer."

Agreed. Although, I think Moe used the "s word" in regards to his gear being fake.

CM
 
Cro Magnon said:
"If you can't deal with delays, don't use him...don't just call him a scammer."

Agreed. Although, I think Moe used the "s word" in regards to his gear being fake.

CM
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But just like MV said...maybe he doesnt know they are fakes...and until we're sure, we probably shouldn't start threads like this...because his credibility has already gone down quite a bit from the time this thread started...whether he has done anything wrong or not.
 
DAMN IT!

My Canadian source wouldn't shit overseas anymore. I though about a source from Peru, Lima that was verified by a mod. I dont think it's 'G' anyway.

I was thought of getting some Boldebal 200 British Dragon. Now I'm not sure anymore! I do NOT want to sit all day waiting for this shit to come by mail only to not getting anything. More than that however, it's better than to get NOTHING from a scammer than to get fake gear from him!

DAMN
 
I know exactly who you are talkin about out of Lima, Peru. Dont bust on him, i dont think hes scamming anyone. He is backed by one of the major mods on this board, i asked the mod HIMSELF and he said he was great. Iv also got good feedback from some other mods that back him.

He has a HUGE credible reference list.

He is slow, but he has a HUGE list with a very wide selection. Prices are also pretty good. I havent seen his bulk prices beat yet.

Then again, if your a mod and know something i dont (LOL) email me at [email protected] and make sure you let me know please ;)
 
I thought the exact same thing as a result of Mod recommendations. However, my test results don't lie. 750 mg of Suts for 8 weeks, and I somehow have LOW test levels. Weather he knows it or not, he is distributing fakes--period!

Problems with delays and even siezed gear is perfectly understandable. However, fakes cannot nor should not be tolerated.

If the Mod(s) who speak so highly about this guy can manage to get me legit replacements for my 100 fake amps of Sust...well, kudos to htem. Otherwise, I am out both money and gear (i.e. size). Talk about getting sand in your motion-lotion. Fuck!

I am not calling out any mods here...I am just saying that you may have to rethink what you believed in the past. So must we all.
 
Moe: have you confronted your source about this? I understand you're pissed, but maybe he too was ripped off (when he bought the sus) and will work something out with you.

In the past, he's always been rather accomodating.

CM
 
It's a tough call... coming down on the mods. One minute a guy is legit, the next minute he is not legit. Hell, last year I never had problems with this guy... ever. He was gold. Now, there seem to be alot of fucking mixups... could it be the boarders tightening? Maybe... could it be his guy has run dry? maybe... could it be a number of things including fake or he's scamming you? Sure.

Moe - I know you... I believe we've met before in person. PM me, we can get together over a beer... discuss this shit.

C-ditty
 
I sent this source an email asking if he could offer a possible explaination as to what the problem might be, and weather he might be able to come up with a solution. I hope to hear back from him in the next day or so.

I will keep everyone informed.
 
I just spoke with him...he said he's had some problems with a few orders, and everything will be taken care of. Just give him some time and I think he'll come through.
 
LOL,if we're talking about who I think we are,he NEVER took care of me...All I got was a bunch of bullshit excuses from him.He is the lousiest excuse for a source ever.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
LOL,if we're talking about who I think we are,he NEVER took care of me...All I got was a bunch of bullshit excuses from him.He is the lousiest excuse for a source ever.
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What do you mean "took care of you"? Did he scam you?
 
Yep.I paid him for a particular item,and the asshole sat on my money for over a MONTH before even CLAIMING to send out(which I don't believe he ever did).No customs notice,nada...After e-mailing him multiple times,I got nothing but one bullshit excuse from him after another(it was lost,it was stolen,it was seized,blah-blah-blah).Then,conveniently,he no longer carried the item I paid for,so he offered to send me some worthless shit in its place that I had absolutely no use for.If he was worth two shits,what he would have done at that point is refund me my loot,since he did not hold up on his end of things.Of course,this was never mentioned.Some people may recieve from this turd,but others like myself have had to go through absolute bullshit with him.I will always steer anyone running a check on him as far away as possible,based on my own first hand experience with him,as well as e-mails I have had from others reporting the same kind of crap.He is a joke.
 
I'm with Huck on this one - This guy is a fuck.

Not only did he tell me my Sustanon had been shipped out a MONTH before he actually did, but I believe the gear I got from him was fake and/or refilled...specifically Organon Karachi Sustanon, TTokkyo EQ, and Anapharm Clomid.

I thought it was odd how I had only gained about 10 pounds on a first cycle with 500mg of Karachi Sust and 400mg of TTokkyo EQ in 8 weeks...training my fucking ass off and eating like an ethopian at an all you can eat buffet...but I did not question the legitimacy of the gear as he was backed by our mod.

The eighth week of my first cycle I Introduced Finaplix...and I turned into a fucking monster - strength, pumps, hardness - everything came within a week...I'd gotten nothing from the other gear I had run so far. The vials were dirty and the caps snapped off the EQ vials pretty easily - but again I was new and I did not question as he was backed by respected people. This may have also been why I got no hairloss from "test" yet much hairloss from tren.

Also...I know this guy screwed HighIntensity over bigtime...keeping his gear for like 10 weeks before sending anything, and just repeatedly lying to him when contacted saying his gear was in the mail.

Either way he is shady and I stopped doing business with him a long time ago and would never use him again.
 
Stay away from Peru Lima ?

You stated that this thread that the source is from Peru Lima.

Do you know of another LEGIT source from Peru Lima ? Or should I avoid ANYONE from this area at the moment?

Thanks..
 
I received fake Primo's (white paper labels smeared terribly) and fake testoviron Depots from that source last year. I no longer use him.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Yep.I paid him for a particular item,and the asshole sat on my money for over a MONTH before even CLAIMING to send out(which I don't believe he ever did).No customs notice,nada...After e-mailing him multiple times,I got nothing but one bullshit excuse from him after another(it was lost,it was stolen,it was seized,blah-blah-blah).Then,conveniently,he no longer carried the item I paid for,so he offered to send me some worthless shit in its place that I had absolutely no use for.If he was worth two shits,what he would have done at that point is refund me my loot,since he did not hold up on his end of things.Of course,this was never mentioned.Some people may recieve from this turd,but others like myself have had to go through absolute bullshit with him.I will always steer anyone running a check on him as far away as possible,based on my own first hand experience with him,as well as e-mails I have had from others reporting the same kind of crap.He is a joke.
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If Huck says he's bad... he's bad.
 
i believe i will have to put my opinion in the bag on this one....

as huck knows, i had some problems with him as well....i ordered
100 karachi susts as well......
for 6-7 months straight he'd claim they where on their way ( in the mail ).........only after requesting help from QUADSWEEP and MUSTANG ( and they had to hound him repeatedly ) did he offer to make some kind of deal......i ended up getting 2000 pink tai's ........ but in the mean time my good friend thought i had scammed him......( we went in together on the sust )........it really screwed my cycle, friendship and some other things..........and the thing of it is, since i don't have any other options....i was thinking of ordering through him again.......

thanks for posting this........unless i hear that he has completely turned a 180...i'll just stick with fina
 
Fuck him, I believe Huck to be very upfront. Besides the guy has to be extremely stupid to fuck over a mod of huck's status. Not that the bastard should fuck over any of the rest of either.:)
 
I can only speak from my experience but I have dealt with this guy for a couple of years and have spent a few thousand dollars with him and have had good luck. Once there was an issue with a bottle of deca that didn't show. He replaced it with dbol. I would rather have had another deca. Other than that, he has been real good. In fact, I was in Lima last year and had dinner with him. He has been a good source for me and I have trusted him with plenty of cash.

I am not trying to discount other people's experience here. If people say they have had problems I believe them. However, I do feel an obligation to chime in as my experience has been completely different.

Jet
 
I have done quite a bit of buisness with this source and I find it hard to believe that he is purposely selling fakes. Has anyone even talked to him about this matter? What does he say about it? Any time I have had a problem he has always taken care of me plus some. To the people who want to bitch about slow TA times and missing items and unanswered emails. Lets not forget that our country has just been through a war and you would be lucky to get through the border with one amp shoved up your ass without getting caught. Yeah things might be a little slow right now but i'm sure it will get better as things settle down in our country. But if you think that you can run a better buisness,keep everyone happy,and avoid getting caught then put up your money and go right ahead. Maybe I am out of line here but I think this whole thread is BS and it should be deleted before his whole reputation is shot to hell. Flame me if you want but back in the day this type of thread would not have stayed on the board for 10 seconds. Thats my 2 cc's.

Elex300
 
Pardon those of us who have lost a few $'s to disagree with you! Also, you can not fuck with HUCK!:chainsaw:
 
First of all I have nothing but respect for Huck. He has been alot of help to me in the past and I am in no way talking bad about him. Now about losing money. I have lost my fair share of money but that is how this game is and its the chance you take. I'm not saying its right but thats how it goes. I just don't think that this source is as bad as this thread is making him out to be.


Elex300
 
WoW! All these posts make me wonder.....I ordered from someone in mid Feb. and have still not received my stuff. He kept telling me that it was already sent, then it wasn't sent because of Mardi Gras, then it was sent, then it wasn't sent because of the war and the terror alert being "orange", then he sent out a question and answer e-mail explaining the delays and that you could request your money back if tired of waiting, so what did I do? I politely asked him for my money back and what did he say? Umm.....he already sent the gear! I was chalking it up as lost money and was about to order from another source but I think THIS might be the guy everyone is talking about!! I'm so confused! Can someone let me know who is who here?? I thought they were both "legit". I got them from the EF list.
 
If this guy is dumb enough to scam a Mod who is routinely asked to do source checks then he should be put out of business. At this point his email addy and specific location should be made known so people can avoid the same pitfall that others unfortunately have had to experience.
 
I think there's still some debate. It seems that some people stand behind him while others don't. Jury is still out on this one. "Selective" seems to be the key word. I'm not taking the chance, though.
 
hvywghtchamp said:
I think there's still some debate. It seems that some people stand behind him while others don't. Jury is still out on this one. "Selective" seems to be the key word. I'm not taking the chance, though.
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Yep,that is the reason.

Look,in all honesty,MOST folks seem to get their stuff and are happy with the guy,others like myself get bent over.I will respect the vets and mods who like him enough not to trash him and post his info,but anyone who runs a check on him by me is going to be told my experience with him.He may not even fit the profile as an outright scammer,but he certainly is a HORRIBLE excuse for a source in my book,and I certainly could not in good conscience just tell someone to use him knowing that they could go through the same unbelievable amount of bullshit I did with him.He is the only guy I have ever dealt with who treated me in such a disgusting fashion.
 
Anyone who recieves your money and does not send you the products that you ordered is a scammer. Period.
 
I sent the guy off an encrypted email...ge "couldn't open it"...so I sent him a more detailed message "non-secure". Hopefully he gets this one, and it is readable.

I hate to think he deliberately scammed me. He has always been good in the past. Sure, there have been issues, but they have never been his fault (delays, losses, etc.), and he has always made an effort to make ammends.

Still, 25,000 mg of fake test is 25,000 mg of fake test--it is worthless, period.

I hope there is something that he is willing to do in this case.

I will post his response to my most recent email here to keep everyone aware of the situation.
 
I hate people

I posted a while back about an order that was 3 monthz comin. well i got my order. I was (still am) missing proviron. Well I am on my fina, his test susp-winny-no proviron (shithead)-clomid (not yet) and nolvzzzz. Also ordered calias (sp) I have been on for 3 weekz and not much I was excited about the test sup (first time user) and fina. well nothing that dramatic. Crap.....
"God bless".. yeh whatever
 
Most recent response from damage control (direct from source):

Hello!!

How are you?

Thanks for your respectful email.

Bro... it's impossible that my sust is fake. My guy buys it directly from the factory in pakistan... and there it's sooooo cheap, that it wouldn't be worth to do real ones.

I would please ask you to test the amps you have.

What I think could have happened.... is that after using the test... if you don't use antiestrogens... your test levels go down, and your estrogen levels go up!!!

Please make sure about that!

THANKS, BRO!!!

bye

[signature]
 
LOL -- at least he SOUNDS nice in the e-mail :) Maybe I'll invite him to a barby.. :)

C-ditty
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Oh,he is nice."Kiss your money goodbye friend!God bless!"
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I love the obligatory "god bless" at the end of his e-mails LOL.

C-ditty
 
(Edited)CONSIDER THIS YOUR ONE WARNING-DO THAT AGAIN AND YOU'RE BANNED.
 
Man, what a mess...Some guys still insist that he's awesome. I did one order (pretty large) and it took 6 months to get it totally filled...
 
I recieved today..I am happy to say the least. It took about two months but those little babies are here! yeeehawww!
 
IronFist said:
Man, what a mess...Some guys still insist that he's awesome. I did one order (pretty large) and it took 6 months to get it totally filled...
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I'm gonna stick by my word and say he's still good. He's been around for quite a while, and we all run into problems at some time or another...I think he'll pull through.
 
wyld1g said:
I recieved today..I am happy to say the least. It took about two months but those little babies are here! yeeehawww!
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2 months...., shit i've been waiting 3 weeks for this guy, and your sayin 2 months. WTF!
 
Citruscide said:


I love the obligatory "god bless" at the end of his e-mails LOL.

C-ditty
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I actually know "him" and "he" is really religious. I have been trying to think of a way to come out and say this on the boards. the source you are all refering to has lost the brains of his operation. She left for many reasons including not having product to fill orders due to frivolous spending. Many times things were out of her hands. She is on her own now so do not confuse the two people.

Quad
 
Quadsweep said:


I actually know "him" and "he" is really religious. I have been trying to think of a way to come out and say this on the boards. the source you are all refering to has lost the brains of his operation. She left for many reasons including not having product to fill orders due to frivolous spending. Many times things were out of her hands. She is on her own now so do not confuse the two people.

Quad
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Quad,

Is she now sourcing under a diferent name???

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[email protected]

Mod @ www.CuttingEdgeMuscle.Com
 
mystery_meat said:


Quad,

Is she now sourcing under a diferent name???
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No...that's why all the confusion. It wouldnt be very smart to source under a new name..considering how long that other name has been around for.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


No...that's why all the confusion. It wouldnt be very smart to source under a new name..considering how long that other name has been around for.
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So... now there are two people with the same name?? or... is the "he" the one who split up and now works independently?? I'm confused... lol

I'm asking cause I ordered from them before as well as some members from the board I'm a mod at...
 
mystery_meat said:


So... now there are two people with the same name?? or... is the "he" the one who split up and now works independently?? I'm confused... lol

I'm asking cause I ordered from them before as well as some members from the board I'm a mod at...
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From what i know...and quadsweep seems to know the same thing...the main guy is gone, no longer a source at all...and there is still one person under the old name...but maybe it's a little too much to handle...thats why the long TA times.
 
Delays are to be expected from time to time, especially with our heightened international security and the like. Hell, I had some things delayed here and there but this source always came through in the end--even helped me with a $$$ issue.

However, this post did not start with regard to delays...it started as a result of my getting bloodwork dome in the middle of a cycle and coming back with LOW test levels. This suggests something fishy may have happened somewhere in the chain of command.

I have been in direct contact and am working on finding a solution to teh mystery at hand.

Please note, I am not declaring that my gear was fake, merely suggesting that it MAY HAVE BEEN due to teh results of my blood tests. I have informed the source about this and we are in constant contact.

Quadsweep...if you don't mind, I can shoot you off a copy of my blood test results and yuo can review them for yourself to verify what I am saying. This source seems to think very highly of you and your opinion. If you were to validate my claims, perhaps we could come to an understanding a bit faster.

Thanks all...
 
Bulldog_10 said:


No...that's why all the confusion. It wouldnt be very smart to source under a new name..considering how long that other name has been around for.
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are you saying g is actually a she?
 
Bulldog_10 said:


From what i know...and quadsweep seems to know the same thing...the main guy is gone, no longer a source at all...and there is still one person under the old name...but maybe it's a little too much to handle...thats why the long TA times.
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Actually......she is a source now.
 
mystery_meat said:


So... now there are two people with the same name?? or... is the "he" the one who split up and now works independently?? I'm confused... lol

I'm asking cause I ordered from them before as well as some members from the board I'm a mod at...
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Two people...different names.....she works independently.

Quad
 
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