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Second Cycle Opinion

no need for the winstrol with your stats.

adding more drugs wont help.. ADD MORE FOOD 4k in cals for someone like you is not even close to the max for bulking up. try 6k. Try 6k NOW.

aas can only do so much if you dont fuel the fire you will be disappointed. EAT TO GROW. if you are not gonna up your cals dont bother going nuts with a cycle.

I know that taking in that many cals can seem hard and crazy but you gotta start now and start ramping up. olive oil and bread are a great way to get in extra cals. whole milk works well for lots of people but find something you can do day in and day out to really increase the calories you are taking in vs worrying about tweaking oral primo. that is not the answer. the answer is your diet.
 
Gotcha, I just had a long sit down with a heavy lifting friend about finding ways to increase my calorie intake.

He also suggested switching to whole milk... I guess I'm just finding it difficult to sneak in those extra calories without leaning towards "fatty" products as well. Especially while on cycle I want to watch my cholesterol, and cut down on extra acne if I can. I'll try to hit closer to 6k and keep the shakes to a minimum

ledhed, What's wrong with running primo and winny together? My understanding was that even the oral of primo was very easy on the system and is often run in conjunction with winny?
 
Gotcha, I just had a long sit down with a heavy lifting friend about finding ways to increase my calorie intake.

He also suggested switching to whole milk... I guess I'm just finding it difficult to sneak in those extra calories without leaning towards "fatty" products as well. Especially while on cycle I want to watch my cholesterol, and cut down on extra acne if I can. I'll try to hit closer to 6k and keep the shakes to a minimum

ledhed, What's wrong with running primo and winny together? My understanding was that even the oral of primo was very easy on the system and is often run in conjunction with winny?


Winny is very hepatoxic. Meaning its hard on your liver. Also, it raises your lipids. Oral primo isnt that hard on your liver. However, winny is enough taxing that adding another oral would be very hard on your liver. You do what you want.... IMO, it's not a good idea to run 2 orals at the same time, no matter if one isn't that taxing but winny sure is.... I woudn't run winny by itself more than 6 weeks.
 
None of my stuff showed up and I now have to make a selection for reshipment.

They are out of the primo, and I wanted to substitute it with Var (and eliminate the Winny) but they are out of that as well.

Any suggestions?

I'm thinking of just running Test E/Winny but I'm not excited about the winny sides either.
 
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