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4everhung said:
I think seattle's chances of returning to the super bowl are much greater than pitt's
ben will never play in another
plenty of quality AFC teams itching for payback
pitt will go 8-8 next year

put your money where your mouth is... 8-8 no way man sorry..
 
4everhung said:
I think seattle's chances of returning to the super bowl are much greater than pitt's
ben will never play in another
plenty of quality AFC teams itching for payback
pitt will go 8-8 next year

Watch out for the bengals next year if they get Palmer back and improve their defense.

I honestly think had Palmer not been injured, they would have crushed Pittsburgh. You could tell after that first long pass, that Palmer was gonna tear it up. Instead they tore up his leg.
 
strangebrew said:
Watch out for the bengals next year if they get Palmer back and improve their defense.

I honestly think had Palmer not been injured, they would have crushed Pittsburgh. You could tell after that first long pass, that Palmer was gonna tear it up. Instead they tore up his leg.

you're prob. right.. but no matter what way you look at it.. seattle loses in superbowl..
 
Miami's might be someone to watch out for next year too. They really need a decent QB though.

And I think the chargers are gonna be in the top 3 afc teams next year. I was amazed that they didn't make the playoffs. Then if Denver gets TO, wow. Damn that's gonna be tough to stop.

Pittsburgh 9-7, 7th or 8th seed.
 
strangebrew said:
Miami's might be someone to watch out for next year too. They really need a decent QB though.

And I think the chargers are gonna be in the top 3 afc teams next year. I was amazed that they didn't make the playoffs. Then if Denver gets TO, wow. Damn that's gonna be tough to stop.

Pittsburgh 9-7, 7th or 8th seed.

good call GOD.. i see you have the entire season layed out..
 
1st & 10 - ah that's a great show. They basically reiterated everything I've said in this thread.

It's nice to hear from a few people who actually understand the rules of the game.
 
strangebrew said:
1st & 10 - ah that's a great show. They basically reiterated everything I've said in this thread.

It's nice to hear from a few people who actually understand the rules of the game.

maybe because its media hype? lol.. and you pathetic seattle fans will actually buy into it because your bandwagon fans.. and dont know shit about football.. i recall earlier in this thread taking the advice of john madden.. LOL.. goes to show how much you know about football.. go drink another latte..
 
Phaded said:
maybe because its media hype? lol.. and you pathetic seattle fans will actually buy into it because your bandwagon fans.. and dont know shit about football.. i recall earlier in this thread taking the advice of john madden.. LOL.. goes to show how much you know about football.. go drink another latte..

LOL.

Are you serious? You think you know more about football than John Madden?

The dude may be senile but when it comes to football, he knows his shit.

And what is all this media hype bullshit? You know just about everyone on the planet was pulling for the steelers right? Amazing.
 
strangebrew said:
LOL.

Are you serious? You think you know more about football than John Madden?

The dude may be senile but when it comes to football, he knows his shit.

And what is all this media hype bullshit? You know just about everyone on the planet was pulling for the steelers right? Amazing.

guess you just missed espn where they showed how SEATTLE blew the game.. not the refs.. but let me guess those guys dont count..
 
Phaded said:
guess you just missed espn where they showed how SEATTLE blew the game.. not the refs.. but let me guess those guys dont count..

You mean nfl live? Yeah, I saw that. And I also saw how they said the holding on locklear was not holding, the PI was not PI and the low block was not a low block and the holding during the punt return was not holding as well.

I never denied that Seattle choked. But, choking and all, the Hawks would have a very good chance to win the game without those penalties.
 
strangebrew said:
You mean nfl live? Yeah, I saw that. And I also saw how they said the holding on locklear was not holding, the PI was not PI and the low block was not a low block and the holding during the punt return was not holding as well.

I never denied that Seattle choked. But, choking and all, the Hawks would have a very good chance to win the game without those penalties.

did you also see how they said the incomplete pass was a fumble? oh ya ref miss calls.. boo fucking hoo.. ..
 
Phaded said:
did you also see how they said the incomplete pass was a fumble? oh ya ref miss calls.. boo fucking hoo.. ..

Yes. Okay, the Steelers had one call against them. And that really wasn't a very important one. Who knows what would have happend, the idiot steeler might have accidentally kicked it out of bounds instead of picking it up. Totally inconsequential considering how close the ball was to the steelers endzone.

Anything else?
 
strangebrew said:
Yes. Okay, the Steelers had one call against them. And that really wasn't a very important one. Who knows what would have happend, the idiot steeler might have accidentally kicked it out of bounds instead of picking it up. Totally inconsequential considering how close the ball was to the steelers endzone.

Anything else?

ya one thing..

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after how the PI rules have been changed in favor of offensive players over the last couple years... there's no room to argue. That call was PI
 
strangebrew said:
Watch out for the bengals next year if they get Palmer back and improve their defense.

I honestly think had Palmer not been injured, they would have crushed Pittsburgh. You could tell after that first long pass, that Palmer was gonna tear it up. Instead they tore up his leg.
I've been a long suffering Bengal's fan since '89
it was really a shame
 
strangebrew said:
Yes. Okay, the Steelers had one call against them. And that really wasn't a very important one. Who knows what would have happend, the idiot steeler might have accidentally kicked it out of bounds instead of picking it up. Totally inconsequential considering how close the ball was to the steelers endzone.

Anything else?
And finally, can we stuff a very large sani-sock into the mouth of Seattle coach Mike Holmgren, and anyone else who says the refs had it out for the poor, little Seahawks?

The signs are very clever (Refs 21, Seahawks 10 ... or, Pittsburgh's 12th Man: The Refs), but they're bogus. It's how sore losers rationalize a final score. Worse yet, it's crying. And there's no crying in football, unless you're Hines Ward.

I know what you're thinking Cincinnati Bengals, Indianapolis Colts, Denver Broncos and, yes, Seattle Seahawks. You're thinking about the way the Steelers bumbled about in Ford Field, and you're saying to yourselves: "Tell me again how we lost to these guys?''

Think about Sunday's game:

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger freaked out ... The best Pittsburgh pass of the day (and I'm stealing Michael Irvin's line here) was thrown by wide receiver Antwaan Randle El ... The Steelers' inspirational "hero,'' Jerome Bettis, rushed for a grand total of 43 yards and couldn't pound it in when Pittsburgh needed him most ... The Steelers had fewer passing yards, less time of possession, fewer total yards, and more turnovers.

And yet, the Steelers won by 11, covering the spread with ease. Conspiracy theories arrived moments later.

The refs stole it.

The NFL "wanted'' this.

The Seahawks were really the better team.

Look, the game itself was 3 hours and 36 minutes of yawns. I think we can all pretty much agree on that. I loved the story lines, but the game, not so much.

But to simply dismiss the Steelers victory as an act of referee kindness is to take a Bettis-sized leap of faith.


Sorry, but Seahawks receiver Darrell Jackson pushed off in the end zone. Did it gain him an advantage? Maybe. Maybe not. All that matters is that the official standing nearby -- a lot closer than John Madden, you or me -- thought so. Instead of a touchdown, Seattle settled for a 3-0 first quarter lead.

Sorry, but Roethlisberger might have broken the plane of the goal line on his second quarter 1-yard TD dive. Or not. That's what matters, right? Not where he landed, but if the ball broke the plane? The play was reviewed and upheld. What else was anyone supposed to do? And while there are no guarantees, if the ball had been spotted just short of the goal line, the Steelers were 100 percent on fourth-and-goals this season.

Sorry, I truly don't know whether Sean Locklear held Clark Haggans on that key fourth quarter call. Even if he didn't, and it was first-and-goal from the Pittsburgh 1, then what? If you can't guarantee Pittsburgh's scoring on fourth-and-inches in the second quarter, you can't guarantee Seattle's scoring on first-and-goal from the 1. Why? Because funny things happen, like the Bettis fumble against Indy. Or Roethlisberger's underthrowing a wide-open Cedrick Wilson against Seattle, costing the Steelers a sure touchdown or a likely field goal (the ball was at the Seahawks' 7). Instead, Kelly Herndon intercepted the crummy pass, returned it 76 yards and Seattle scored three plays later.

No one can deny there were questionable calls during the game. But before Holmgren and Latte Nation start whining about playing "the guys in the striped shirts as well,'' perhaps a history lesson is in order.

The striped shirts didn't cause tight end Jerramy Stevens to drop four passes. The striped shirts didn't cause the Seahawks defense to give up a Steelers first down on a third-and-28 situation (which later led to the Roethlisberger disputed TD). The striped shirts didn't cause the Seahawks defense to give up the longest touchdown run in Super Bowl history. They also didn't cause Etric Pruitt to sprint up from his safety position, only to be fooled by the trick play that resulted in Randle El's 43-yard TD pass to Ward (and by the way, if everyone knows the Steelers like to run gadget plays near midfield, don't you think the Seahawks knew it too?). Or cause Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck to throw a killer interception with nearly 11 minutes left in the game and Seattle trailing by only four points.

Enough already with the whining. The Seahawks had their chances. Plenty of them to overcome the Steelers and, if they insist, the refs, too.

Holmgren, who didn't exactly distinguish himself in the waning minutes of both halves, is no doubt suffering some post-Super Bowl anger. Perfectly understandable, especially in front of the thousands who greeted the team upon its return to Seattle. But days, weeks, months from now, when he's able to think more clearly, he'll realize the only people to blame for the loss were wearing Seahawks metallic blue, not black and white.
 
Phaded said:
dude sorry but you are a moron..

whatever, do you know anything about football? if you did, you would know that there were at least 4 calls against seattle that impacted the outcome of the game. i'm not saying the refs were paid off or anything, but they called a bad game. if i'm such a moron, please tell me why all the sports news websites are talking about how the refs made so many bad calls?
 
Pundits get paid for being pundits. The miserable blatherskites profit from prolonging this supposed controversy.
 
kethnaab said:
It was a hold. You can't grab a defensive player outside the arms and spin him halfway around and nearly rag him down. It was obviously a hold. Even the 20 or so Seahawks fans that I was stuck watching the game acknowledged that one on the replay. One of them even saw it BEFORE the pass was thrown.

first of all, the defender was offsides on that play and that wasn't called. then the so called holding penalty was called on the block against the guy that was offsides. if you have the game taped, look at that play and you'll see the pittsburgh defender was offsides.



the ball was past the line. Happened while Roeth was up in the air before he came down. TD. Even if the Steelers don't get that TD and kick a field goal, guess what? Final Score: Steelers 17, Seahawks 10. Oops.

well, the ball was not past the line. even roethlisburger admitted that. and that completely changes the game at that point, so you can't just say 17-10. oops. roethlisburger said they would have went for it on 4th down, so they either would have scored the touchdown or not had any points since they were not going to go for a field goal.

What the fuck? The league APOLOGIZED and already admitted that the call was wrong.

and i said that it was an interception, but the ref thought that polamolu did not make a football move after the catch, and that is a judgement call on his part.


the call was pretty consistent throughout the year. If you toss it up and the 2 players jump for it, if one gets his hand on the other, it's interference. If you use your body to block the other while going up for the ball, no interference.

i dont know about that. i've watched a lot of football, and that call is pretty rare on a play like that. yes, he made contact with the defender, but it was nothing major, and the espn announcers argued that a call on a play like that is very rare and ticky tacky
 
Phaded said:
YOU CAN'T SEE THE 'HOOK' CAN YOU..

Hand(s) or arm(s) that encircle a defender—i.e., hook an opponent—are to be considered illegal and officials are to call a foul for holding.


for one, the defender who got "held" was offsides on the play, and that wasn't called.
have you ever played football or watched the linemen throughout a game? much worse holds happen on most plays, and usually only the worst holds are called. dont let a picture fool you, it only shows what is happening at that exact moment, but tells you nothing about the force. that hold was very questionable. i saw many holds by both teams throughout the game that were not called, so to call that hold on that play is why there is so much bitching about it.
 
L Money said:
for one, the defender who got "held" was offsides on the play, and that wasn't called.
have you ever played football or watched the linemen throughout a game? much worse holds happen on most plays, and usually only the worst holds are called. dont let a picture fool you, it only shows what is happening at that exact moment, but tells you nothing about the force. that hold was very questionable. i saw many holds by both teams throughout the game that were not called, so to call that hold on that play is why there is so much bitching about it.


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Testosterone boy said:
NFL says the fix was in for the Super Bowl

The NFL defended the officiating in the Super Bowl on Tuesday, two days after the Steelers beat the Seahawks 21-10 in the NFL title game. The league said Tuesday that no mistakes were made by the game officials, as they had clear orders on the fix.




what the?

so funny.. tell your parents to invite me to your sweet 16 please i wanna come..
 
L Money said:
whatever, do you know anything about football? if you did, you would know that there were at least 4 calls against seattle that impacted the outcome of the game. i'm not saying the refs were paid off or anything, but they called a bad game. if i'm such a moron, please tell me why all the sports news websites are talking about how the refs made so many bad calls?
steelers victory doesn't pass the smell test
hell the smell test completed more passes than ben
I'm fed up with hearing too that "pittsburgh played poor"
no shit
you think this was a scrimmage
Pitt got beat in so many phases of the game
from the coaching(i.e. play calling) into the trenches action
weakest super bowl victory ever
 
4everhung said:
steelers victory doesn't pass the smell test
hell the smell test completed more passes than ben
I'm fed up with hearing too that "pittsburgh played poor"
no shit
you think this was a scrimmage
Pitt got beat in so many phases of the game
from the coaching(i.e. play calling) into the trenches action
weakest super bowl victory ever

HAHA COACHING.. did you even watch the fucking game.. the best part of the coaching was the seahawks clock management.. then at the end of the game when fat ass asked hasselbeck if he had any plays through his headset.. GREAT COACHING AND GREAT CALL ON THAT..
 
if you you'd like to bet on the steelers getting 8 or less victories let me know..
 
I saw as many bad calls against pitt as I did seahawks. The ball did cross the white line. In fact it only has to touch it or just break the plane which it clearly did.

Seattle only robbed themselves by playing better. I will admit they made some beautiful catches that were almost in bounds and one that was almost a touchdown, if he were in bounds.
 
L Money said:
for one, the defender who got "held" was offsides on the play, and that wasn't called.
have you ever played football or watched the linemen throughout a game? much worse holds happen on most plays, and usually only the worst holds are called. dont let a picture fool you, it only shows what is happening at that exact moment, but tells you nothing about the force. that hold was very questionable. i saw many holds by both teams throughout the game that were not called, so to call that hold on that play is why there is so much bitching about it.
my younger brother was an OL in the NFL for seven years
didn't play much,but he collects a pension
I have a fair amount of insight into what happens "in" the game
most of the assholes aren't even aware that a center is calling out blocking assignments while the QB gives his orders
 
Testosterone boy said:
NFL says the fix was in for the Super Bowl

The NFL defended the officiating in the Super Bowl on Tuesday, two days after the Steelers beat the Seahawks 21-10 in the NFL title game. The league said Tuesday that no mistakes were made by the game officials, as they had clear orders on the fix.




what the?
I already commented on this earlier
none of that officiating crew will ever work another super bowl
I remember at the moment when what's his name was introduced
with 5 years NFL experience
I thought that was odd
come to think of it,how long ago was the showdown between the NFL and the offcials?
5 years is cheap
and it showed
 
Phaded said:
HAHA COACHING.. did you even watch the fucking game.. the best part of the coaching was the seahawks clock management.. then at the end of the game when fat ass asked hasselbeck if he had any plays through his headset.. GREAT COACHING AND GREAT CALL ON THAT..
no I stated long before the game the seahawks TE would be key
Holmgren had him open and targeted
he drops three and esp. the ball at the two
nevertheless seattle moved the ball well
the game was broken by the officiating
it was crap
hell that you and others type out these long winded defenses is confirmation that it was crap
40 super bowls and this is the first in which the victor is on the defense
it was fucking obvious
 
no doubt the superbowl itself was crap unless you were a steelers fan.. i'm just saying your statement on steelers being outcoached is utter bullshit..
 
and personally I don't give a rat's ass about seattle
irony being I pulled for seattle because they had two penn state recievers
joe jurevioxus(the last of the great white recievers)
and bobby engram
 
4everhung said:
and personally I don't give a rat's ass about seattle
irony being I pulled for seattle because they had two penn state recievers
joe jurevioxus(the last of the great white recievers)
and bobby engram

he is fucking sick.. joe jure.. i thought he played for the gators though?
 
Phaded said:
no doubt the superbowl itself was crap unless you were a steelers fan.. i'm just saying your statement on steelers being outcoached is utter bullshit..
cowher was very out-coached
you could tell from the camera shots,that is if you weren't paying attention to the action on the field
9 fucking passes by ben completed
yay!,great play calling
the idea as a head coach is to have a game plan that exploits your opponents weak area
holmgren did well,the execution came up short
cowher was the "wrestling" coach with a degree in fitness management
 
4everhung said:
cowher was very out-coached
you could tell from the camera shots,that is if you weren't paying attention to the action on the field
9 fucking passes by ben completed
yay!,great play calling
the idea as a head coach is to have a game plan that exploits your opponents weak area
holmgren did well,the execution came up short
cowher was the "wrestling" coach with a degree in fitness management

you could tell from camera shots who was out coached? sweet man.. ill have to let the world in on that secret..
 
Phaded said:
you could tell from camera shots who was out coached? sweet man.. ill have to let the world in on that secret..
actually you can learn from facial expressions what an individual is feeling
e.g. a frown
that's simplistic
and you're a dumbass
no facial feedback needed
 
and don't get your phanites in wad and turn this otherwise good discussion of why the steelers victory stinks as a dog poo,
into a controntation
 
4everhung said:
actually you can learn from facial expressions what an individual is feeling
e.g. a frown
that's simplistic
and you're a dumbass
no facial feedback needed

sweet bro so cause cowher was frowing the whole game.. he got outcoached i love the reasoning behind that you are so intelligent.. let me guess didn't graduate highschool? its all good.. there are jobs for everyone in this world.. let me know if you need one.. adios..
 
unsubscribing from thread so i hope you wrote a really long response.
 
Phaded said:
sweet bro so cause cowher was frowing the whole game.. he got outcoached i love the reasoning behind that you are so intelligent.. let me guess didn't graduate highschool? its all good.. there are jobs for everyone in this world.. let me know if you need one.. adios..
it's called concern
for the record reading a face is the basis for poker success
true you don't need a secondary education to realize this
 
L Money said:
whatever, do you know anything about football? if you did, you would know that there were at least 4 calls against seattle that impacted the outcome of the game. i'm not saying the refs were paid off or anything, but they called a bad game. if i'm such a moron, please tell me why all the sports news websites are talking about how the refs made so many bad calls?



There *were* 4 calls that went against Seattle (along with 2 pretty major ones against PGH)

Let's pretend that all 6 calls go Seattle's way, even though PGH only got 4 of the calls, and still won 21-10.

1) Roeth's TD is stopped on the 1-vaginal-hair line. PGH was 100% on 4th and goal during the regular season. If they go for the field goal, they make it. They could probably get the 7 anyway, but let's assume they go for the field goal. This would drop the score to 17-10, Steelers.

2) The Pass interference - it *was* pass interference, there is no doubt about that. Whether it should've been called is up to anyone's interpretation. But screw it! Let's pretend it doesn't get called and Seattle gets the TD, because hey, we can be generous!

OOPS! Seattle is STILL down 17-14.

3) Block below the waist - technically correct (like the "tuck" rule), but horrendously stupid. Also horrendously irrelevant, as the rookie that was covering Hines Ward (great move, BTW, putting a rookie in single coverage against Hines Ward) bit SO HARD on that end around, that Ward could've caught the ball, laid on his back, lifted his legs, and farted his way into the end zone. Seriously. Dude had enough time to order a pizza and wait for it. No way was the rookie gonna catch up to him.

Randle-El has an absolute rocket for an arm, he had all damn day to make the pass, and he is accurate as heck (4 for 4 during the season, 15 for 17 during his career). It didn't matter whether Randle-El passes that ball from midfield or his own 35, that ball was going to land in Ward's hands, and the only affect the Hasselback penalty had was that Ward had to take a few less steps to get to the end zone. So this (agreeably poor) call was irrelevant to the outcome.

4) Locklear holding - well, offensive lineman aren't supposed to grab the jersey outside the arms. Again, like the pass interference call, it was definitely a "penalty", according to the rules, but whether it shold've been called or not is to anyone's discretion.

5) The Hasselbeck fumble - it got called back in Seattle's favor...not all major calls went against Seattle - this would've had FAR more impact than Hasselbeck's block

6) The illegal pick that resulted in the Seahawks' TD - Polamalu got picked, period. That is illegal. Regardless, it didn't get called (that's 2 in Seattle's favor!) and Seattle scores.

now then, let's recap.

As it stands, there were 6 "questionable" calls in the game, 4 went against Seattle. In order to make it "fair", 3 would go for PGH, 3 would go for Seattle.

Doesn't matter which of the disputed calls you switch to make things "fair", game still goes to PGH by at least a TD.

Let's give Seattle 4 of the 6 calls (just like PGH got), any 4 of the 6. Still, PGH wins, and a field goal wouldn't have tied it (assuming Seattle could actually manage the play clock, which they proved in both halves that they couldn't).

Let's give Seattle ALL 6 of the calls. Granted, PGH only got 4 of the calls, but Seattle really needed the help. PGH would STILL be up 17-14, with Seattle being on the 2 yard line (the Locklear hold)

PGH gets 4 out of 6 calls, they win 21-10
Seattle gets all 6 calls, they are STILL DOWN 17-14.

*yawn* keep on whining, Seattle.

Maybe next time consider covering Hines Ward on 3rd and 28. I know, radical defensive strategy, covering the other team's #1 receiver for the last half decade, on an obvious passing down.

Or maybe not give up the longest run from scrimmage in the history of the SB.

Or maybe lobby to get stikkum allowed back in the league (for Stevens' and Engram's sakes). That was 4 drives Seattle had to punt that would've been kept alive had they not had hands of steel.

GG Seattle, look forward to our Super Bowl XLI rematch, assuming you can sign all those free agents.
 
BLITZ99 said:
good point, rothliswhatever touched the line, the ball did not... 4th and an inch is better then 7 points.

If it would have been 4th down the steelers would have kicked a FG all the commentators said so to put points on the board.
 
kethnaab said:
There *were* 4 calls that went against Seattle (along with 2 pretty major ones against PGH)

Let's pretend that all 6 calls go Seattle's way, even though PGH only got 4 of the calls, and still won 21-10.

1) Roeth's TD is stopped on the 1-vaginal-hair line. PGH was 100% on 4th and goal during the regular season. If they go for the field goal, they make it. They could probably get the 7 anyway, but let's assume they go for the field goal. This would drop the score to 17-10, Steelers.

2) The Pass interference - it *was* pass interference, there is no doubt about that. Whether it should've been called is up to anyone's interpretation. But screw it! Let's pretend it doesn't get called and Seattle gets the TD, because hey, we can be generous!

OOPS! Seattle is STILL down 17-14.

3) Block below the waist - technically correct (like the "tuck" rule), but horrendously stupid. Also horrendously irrelevant, as the rookie that was covering Hines Ward (great move, BTW, putting a rookie in single coverage against Hines Ward) bit SO HARD on that end around, that Ward could've caught the ball, laid on his back, lifted his legs, and farted his way into the end zone. Seriously. Dude had enough time to order a pizza and wait for it. No way was the rookie gonna catch up to him.

Randle-El has an absolute rocket for an arm, he had all damn day to make the pass, and he is accurate as heck (4 for 4 during the season, 15 for 17 during his career). It didn't matter whether Randle-El passes that ball from midfield or his own 35, that ball was going to land in Ward's hands, and the only affect the Hasselback penalty had was that Ward had to take a few less steps to get to the end zone. So this (agreeably poor) call was irrelevant to the outcome.

4) Locklear holding - well, offensive lineman aren't supposed to grab the jersey outside the arms. Again, like the pass interference call, it was definitely a "penalty", according to the rules, but whether it shold've been called or not is to anyone's discretion.

5) The Hasselbeck fumble - it got called back in Seattle's favor...not all major calls went against Seattle - this would've had FAR more impact than Hasselbeck's block

6) The illegal pick that resulted in the Seahawks' TD - Polamalu got picked, period. That is illegal. Regardless, it didn't get called (that's 2 in Seattle's favor!) and Seattle scores.

now then, let's recap.

As it stands, there were 6 "questionable" calls in the game, 4 went against Seattle. In order to make it "fair", 3 would go for PGH, 3 would go for Seattle.

Doesn't matter which of the disputed calls you switch to make things "fair", game still goes to PGH by at least a TD.

Let's give Seattle 4 of the 6 calls (just like PGH got), any 4 of the 6. Still, PGH wins, and a field goal wouldn't have tied it (assuming Seattle could actually manage the play clock, which they proved in both halves that they couldn't).

Let's give Seattle ALL 6 of the calls. Granted, PGH only got 4 of the calls, but Seattle really needed the help. PGH would STILL be up 17-14, with Seattle being on the 2 yard line (the Locklear hold)

PGH gets 4 out of 6 calls, they win 21-10
Seattle gets all 6 calls, they are STILL DOWN 17-14.

*yawn* keep on whining, Seattle.

Maybe next time consider covering Hines Ward on 3rd and 28. I know, radical defensive strategy, covering the other team's #1 receiver for the last half decade, on an obvious passing down.

Or maybe not give up the longest run from scrimmage in the history of the SB.

Or maybe lobby to get stikkum allowed back in the league (for Stevens' and Engram's sakes). That was 4 drives Seattle had to punt that would've been kept alive had they not had hands of steel.

GG Seattle, look forward to our Super Bowl XLI rematch, assuming you can sign all those free agents.
as I mentioned
guilt
hey little boy
you can't measure in words the effects of the dissappointing calls on morale,feild position.down and distance,what the fuck ever
you're about the fortieth broley with a long winded pitt defense
I say again
it stunk
 
Joe Greene,L.C. Greenwood
Ham and Lambert
should be ashamed of this 5th ring
and Mike Webster
 
and you should be ashamed of yourself.

meow.

if all 6 calls go Seattle's way, they still aren't in the lead.

and you can't measure how the Steelers would react if they HAD all those calls go against them. Maybe they'd get pissed off, like they wer against Denver, Indianapolis and Cincinnati?

Keep in mind, PGH rode that "we're the underdogs, everyone is against us" tide to dominating performances against the 3 top seeds in the AFC. Who's to say that they wouldn't have done the same if the refs had been against them?

Oh yeah, forgot another bad call by the refs AGAINST PGH. The pass that was fumbled, but was ruled a "drop"

So Seattle got 4 questionable calls against them, PGH got 3 against them. I'm sorry if you don't like reality, but that IS reality.

4everhung said:
you can't measure in words the effects of the dissappointing calls on morale,feild position.down and distance

oh cry me a river. Poor babies didn't get copmletely biased officiating in their favor, so they lose their morale. Quit crying bitches!! Admit you did stupid shit, and drive on.

Fix Stevens' hands. Between him and Engram, they stalled 4 drives on their own. Let me guess, the refs interfered with them, right?

Fix the defense. Sure, did great most of the day, but

1) How you gonna give up a 75 yard run from scrimmage? Parker didn't even cut back, he just ran, practically untouched, the whole damn way

2) How you gonna leave Hines Ward wide open on 3rd and 28? It's a passing down, right? Hines Ward? Multiple Pro-Bowl selections? Led Steelers in receptions yard, receiptions, and TD receptions every season for the last half decade? Perhaps you've heard of him? Maybe cover him on 3rd and 28, what do you say?

3) How you gonna leave Hines Ward in single coverage with a damn rookie? Hines Ward? Multiple Pro-Bowl selections? Led Steelers in receptions yard, receiptions, and TD receptions every season for the last half decade? Perhaps you've heard of him? He was so wide open he could've ordered pizza, got it delivered, and eaten it, THEN walked to the end zone, before that rookie would've caught up with him.

yeah, whatever. Keep whining. You know the characteristic of a loser?

One who looks to blame others for their failures without looking at themselves to see what they can fix.

5 Super bowls!! FIVE!!!

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!!
 
I didn't read this thread but I will just say Seattle got fucked. That's not to say that the Steelers wouldn't have won anyway......they may have. Worst post season officiating that I can remember. Season is over and the Browns are undefeated..........isn't that all that matters? :)
 
4everhung said:
and personally I don't give a rat's ass about seattle
irony being I pulled for seattle because they had two penn state recievers
joe jurevioxus(the last of the great white recievers)
and bobby engram
<3 penn state but being from pittsbrugh no way i would pull for seattle......... i grew up 10 minutes from the stadium..... sooooo i was extremely happy to have a superbowl in my lifetime :)
 
4everhung said:
Joe Greene,L.C. Greenwood
Ham and Lambert
should be ashamed of this 5th ring
and Mike Webster
there is no way the great steelers of the past are ashamed of the superbowl. completely uncalled for. trust me.... my parents wer downtown in pittsbrugh after the victory...... NO ONE was ashamed :)
 
Boardin087 said:
<3 penn state but being from pittsbrugh no way i would pull for seattle......... i grew up 10 minutes from the stadium..... sooooo i was extremely happy to have a superbowl in my lifetime :)


I was born in PGH in 1971.

so I grew up wrapped in a Terrible Towel.

this is my 5th. I'm quite pleased. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
I was born in state college PA
my father is a PSU grad
as well as my brother
my brother was a 4 year starter for Paterno
C,G then tackle
drafted 5th round by the redskins in '92
ordinarily I would have been pulling for pittsburgh
but I thought seattle was going to win for various reasons
and really the game went as I figured
seattle won the line of scrimmage battle on both sides of the ball
holmgren had excellent play calls
etc,etc
too many dropped passes,bad officiating and a couple of Pitt big plays
play this game 10 times and seattle wins six
 
4everhung said:
I was born in state college PA
my father is a PSU grad
as well as my brother
my brother was a 4 year starter for Paterno
C,G then tackle
drafted 5th round by the redskins in '92
ordinarily I would have been pulling for pittsburgh
but I thought seattle was going to win for various reasons
and really the game went as I figured
seattle won the line of scrimmage battle on both sides of the ball
holmgren had excellent play calls
etc,etc
too many dropped passes,bad officiating and a couple of Pitt big plays
play this game 10 times and seattle wins six
how old?
 
4everhung said:
i'm 43
my bro 35


thanks for keeping the conversation here educated. Some people will attempt to bring it down quickly, I guess they feel more comfortable at that level.
 
I didn't know EF had some kind of braille option on the site for the blind. Some of you can actually say the Steelers weren't getting special treatment out there on the field? Seattle got screwed when it came to the calls. I can admit that, and I even bet all my karma on the Steelers.
 
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Dear lord!! let this thread die already.....my freaking eyes are bleeding.

I can hear the whining from 1000's of miles away.

Face it. THE SEAHAGS GOT THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM. They're a third rate team that got lucky to make it to the Superbowl. They had their day in the sun now say goodbye.
 
StickFigure said:
Dear lord!! let this thread die already.....my freaking eyes are bleeding.

I can hear the whining from 1000's of miles away.

Face it. THE SEAHAGS GOT THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM. They're a third rate team that got lucky to make it to the Superbowl. They had their day in the sun now say goodbye.
seattle did not get their asses handed to them
they won first downs,time of possesion and yardage
the previous 25 super bowl teams that did all three won the game
seattle got fucked
 
4everhung said:
seattle did not get their asses handed to them
they won first downs,time of possesion and yardage
the previous 25 super bowl teams that did all three won the game
seattle got fucked

LOL! I know, I was just trying to see who I would get a rise out of.

I do still think it's pathetic how everybody whines about how their team got fucked by this or that. It's just simply and plainly a part of the game, period. It has happened to every team since the first game ever played. People need to learn how to deal with it.
 
StickFigure said:
Dear lord!! let this thread die already.....my freaking eyes are bleeding.

I can hear the whining from 1000's of miles away.

Face it. THE SEAHAGS GOT THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM. They're a third rate team that got lucky to make it to the Superbowl. They had their day in the sun now say goodbye.

Seattle dominated the game.

The corrupt officiating clearly shook them up as the game progressed.

Pitt ran for squat.
Pitt passed for squat except for one trick play.

Seattle passed effectively and ran the ball significantly more effectively.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Seattle dominated the game.

The corrupt officiating clearly shook them up as the game progressed.

Pitt ran for squat.
Pitt passed for squat except for one trick play.

Seattle passed effectively and ran the ball significantly more effectively.

refer to post #166
 
StickFigure said:
LOL! I know, I was just trying to see who I would get a rise out of.

I do still think it's pathetic how everybody whines about how their team got fucked by this or that. It's just simply and plainly a part of the game, period. It has happened to every team since the first game ever played. People need to learn how to deal with it.
except seattle is not "my team"
I'm calling it objectively
I said it before
those offcials will never work another super bowl
the leaque will keep it low key
and maybe allow a selct one to offciate the big dance
working the super bowl as an official is quite an honor
 
Testosterone boy said:
Seattle dominated the game.

some of it, yes.


Testosterone boy said:
Pitt ran for squat.

except for that 75-yarder that went for a TD, yes

Testosterone boy said:
Pitt passed for squat except for one trick play.
which resulted in 1 TD, and the 3rd and 28 where Seattle, oddly enough, forgot about the existence of Hines Ward.

Y'know, Hines Ward? The Steelers' leading receiver for the last half decade?
Perhaps you've heard of him?

If so, might want to let Holmgren and his defensive staff know about the guy, since Seattle left him wide open TWICE near the goal line, which resulted in 2 TDs.

3 big plays, 3 TDs. Can't blame the refs for that one.

Testosterone boy said:
Seattle passed effectively

if you consider 23 incompletions and 6 drops which resulted in 5 stalled drives effective, I suppose so

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Testosterone boy said:
and ran the ball significantly more effectively.

uh, debateable. Seattle didn't use their run very effectively, nor did they use the clock effectively.

You can blame the refs, but with few exceptions, the calls made were proper. They might not be what Seattle people, or those who don't know the game and listened to Madden rant, want to hear, but reality is reality, regardless of whether you like it or not.
 
can't believe cats are still complaining about the refs.. if the refs would have made a mistake they'd be apologizing.. like they did too the steelers for the colts game..
 
you guys are STILL going on about this!?! Give it a rest. No matter what, the outcome won't change

Whiskey
 
then take it ill bet you 1000 bucks right now we can escrow it through a mod of this site..
 
NFL Network just showed the 10 most controversial calls ever in the NFL. I find it comical that the Steelers were involved with 3 out of the 10, all on the receiving end (#1, #4, #8). Two of them led to SuperBowl rings, while another one they showed in between the countdown led to a third. Sorry Phaded and other Steelers fans, but you really shouldn't be taking shots at the Patriots for cheating.
 
NFL Network just showed the 10 most controversial calls ever in the NFL. I find it comical that the Steelers were involved with 3 out of the 10, all on the receiving end (#1, #4, #8). Two of them led to SuperBowl rings, while another one they showed in between the countdown led to a third. Sorry Phaded and other Steelers fans, but you really shouldn't be taking shots at the Patriots for cheating.

^^ dude watches the NFL Network (lmao) at 7 in the morning?

we gotta find you a girl, broham. first step, get that back hair issue mowed down.
 
bad calls = cheating on the winning teams behalf? when did this phenomenon occur..

not that i'm agreeing that they were even bad calls.. which calls were they?

patriots got straight up caught doing something grimey as hell..

and LOL @ the bitterness..

6 rings no cheating.. go steelers..[/QUOTE]

lol
 
NFL Network just showed the 10 most controversial calls ever in the NFL. I find it comical that the Steelers were involved with 3 out of the 10, all on the receiving end (#1, #4, #8). Two of them led to SuperBowl rings, while another one they showed in between the countdown led to a third. Sorry Phaded and other Steelers fans, but you really shouldn't be taking shots at the Patriots for cheating.


LOL@ cheating

The walk through tape w/rams fiasco was nothing more than an angry, fired pats/camerman/scout who wanted his 10 minutes of fame, yet there was no evidence or anything.
The taping part was taping from a wrong area that they had just changed the rules that offseason ,and the rat mangina cried because he knew he needed something to even try and sniff the pats in competion.

You all watcted too much cnn, oops I mean espn

same thing
 
LOL@ cheating

The walk through tape w/rams fiasco was nothing more than an angry, fired pats/camerman/scout who wanted his 10 minutes of fame, yet there was no evidence or anything.
The taping part was taping from a wrong area that they had just changed the rules that offseason ,and the rat mangina cried because he knew he needed something to even try and sniff the pats in competion.

You all watcted too much cnn, oops I mean espn

same thing


stealing signals by taking video of the other team on their sidelines isn't cheating?

ok
 
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