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screw time off - I'm starting!

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MadCow1 said:
An observation:

No one is ever satisfied with the final product of their efforts. They always find something else wrong with it.

Everyone is in a huge hurry to get to the final product at the expense of many worthwhile experiences.

Conclusion:

Enjoy the ride. Take it slow and take pleasure in living the life you've been blessed with.

If you can't lift naturally without jumping back on juice, I'd suggest a self evaluation as there is something amiss. This is how people go from a few cycles to living their lives on drugs - welcome to BBing.


Karma to you brother!
 
Thanks for the replies. And yes it is 9 weeks off total, not 5. I know I should probably wait even more than 9 but I guess at least that does fall into the time on=time off theory (last cycle was 8 weeks long).

Nathan, Maxx: Good point. I see what you mean by the prop. I just have the enanthate already as it is very easy for me to obtain. -Maybe I'll extend the cycle and add some more eth. so I can get the full benefit from it.

I have a complete physical at the end of June, so I'll get everything checked then. If it's all good, then I'll start.
 
You're already taking time off = to the time on, plus your next cycle is only 6 weeks. You're good to go...
I think time on = time off is the maximum amount of time someone should take off. Then again, it all really depends on your goals with AAS use.
 
MadCow1 said:

If you can't lift naturally without jumping back on juice, I'd suggest a self evaluation as there is something amiss. This is how people go from a few cycles to living their lives on drugs - welcome to BBing.
Well said. This is one of the reasons I don't like guys with little time in the gym taking gear.

Learn to love lifting.

I don't care whether I'm on or not, I'm always amped to go to the gym.

Don't become one of those guys that can't train unless he's taking something. That is a truely sad condition.
 
Maybe you can try this so you can start clomid therapy asap. How does that sound? any inputs please, thats what im planning to start in couple of days.

week 1-6 test enth.
week 3-8 30/day dbol
week 3-8 75/day fina
 
I have no clue what your first cycle was but remember this. Long acting esthers stay in the blood for weeks after your last injection and you must count this as part of the cycle. If you're on enanthate or sust for 8 weeks, then you're really on an 11 week cycle. Just because your last shot was at week 8 doesn't mean you're "off" on the next 3 weeks because there's still plenty floating around in your system. Also you should really not count being off until after your clomid therapy and your natural test has recovered, at least somewhat. So in reality an 8 week test cycle is really 12-13 weeks(3 weeks of clomid starting 3rd week from final injection) so remember that when figuring out time on and time off calculations.

Simple concept but many don't follow it. There is a damn good reason for taking time off so don't cheat yourself by starting early. I agree with the others as well, it sounds like you're already becoming addicted to the drugs if you can't fathome lifting without being on something. That's a clear sign you should take a step back and re-evaluate what you're doing.
 
That's right

I hear you Genarr3, that's what i am talking about. "Train to love lifting" I like that. Well I am, definetly in love.

"I want to be 225lbs 8%bf by age 21, want to be, MUST BE!!!"
 
Don't get me wrong on what I'm about to write. I agree with you guys saying wait longer. I don't think this is a sign of drug dependency. I am waiting 9 weeks and that IS from starting clomid. Here's my response:

Would YOU rather live 85 years and have a dull,boring life? or would you rather live 60 years and have a fun, exciting, fulfilling life? Sometimes you just have to take risks/chances in life. Now don't mistake what I'm saying. -I'm not saying stay on insane amounts of juice all the time and basically committ suicide. I'm simply stating that you gotta have a little fun in life and live it to the fullest because it is, in fact, short.
What about those killed in the Sept.11 attacks. What if one of those people skipped dessert the day before because he or she didn't want to take a chance of gaining a little weight? Enjoy life and eat the dessert! Just don't over-do it.

Once again, don't take this the wrong way. I'm not bashing anyone - I, for the most part, agree with what everyone has said.
 
alien amp pharm said:
Don't get me wrong on what I'm about to write. I agree with you guys saying wait longer. I don't think this is a sign of drug dependency. I am waiting 9 weeks and that IS from starting clomid. Here's my response:

Would YOU rather live 85 years and have a dull,boring life? or would you rather live 60 years and have a fun, exciting, fulfilling life? Sometimes you just have to take risks/chances in life. Now don't mistake what I'm saying. -I'm not saying stay on insane amounts of juice all the time and basically committ suicide. I'm simply stating that you gotta have a little fun in life and live it to the fullest because it is, in fact, short.
What about those killed in the Sept.11 attacks. What if one of those people skipped dessert the day before because he or she didn't want to take a chance of gaining a little weight? Enjoy life and eat the dessert! Just don't over-do it.

Once again, don't take this the wrong way. I'm not bashing anyone - I, for the most part, agree with what everyone has said.

Amen brother. But you can't eat the desert every night...esspecially a bodybuilder. Live it up and go for a dream. When it's your time you'll be happy you did.

BTW...I'm on year round and am a model of health. I have blood tests done every other month as well as two physcals per year. Tip top condition I am. 9 weeks off is plenty of time. Any more and you're wasting your time in this "living" ting you just spoke of.
 
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