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Saw Jay Cutler's new DVD One Step Closer and the guy in the video, he dont look too happy.
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redsamurai
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BigCracker said:
I'd put up with you BC!!!........
redsamurai
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Re: Saw Jay Cutler's new DVD One Step Closer and the guy in the video, he dont look t
you are sorely misinformed bro........in face, BC might be low balling it.....at the very top, the gear....GH.....ancillaries.....all together.....I've heard come closer to the 6 figures mark. The pro's are getting top grade pharmaceutical gear.....not UG"s like the rest of us.........so they're paying triple what we do, and they don't come off. Just think of the GH, top grade american GH that they take at upwards of 10 iu's per day...??? Test at 3g/week for most of the year.......
zk7 said:
you are sorely misinformed bro........in face, BC might be low balling it.....at the very top, the gear....GH.....ancillaries.....all together.....I've heard come closer to the 6 figures mark. The pro's are getting top grade pharmaceutical gear.....not UG"s like the rest of us.........so they're paying triple what we do, and they don't come off. Just think of the GH, top grade american GH that they take at upwards of 10 iu's per day...??? Test at 3g/week for most of the year.......
redsamurai
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zk7 said:
I don't even know what to say to this post......estrogen makes you gay?? Dude, please shut the fuck up now........in any case, the pro's are taking 2-3 anti e's at the same time, estrogen is not a big problem for them....they've got it on shutdown.
zk7
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Re: Saw Jay Cutler's new DVD One Step Closer and the guy in the video, he dont look t
Estrogen is a FEMININE HORMONE. It won't make you gay but it will make you feel like a fag, a woman.
It will make you emotional... Did you see the MTV show True Life "I'm on steroids". Even the guy in that show he said "i don't feel like a man, i feel like a daughter".
I honestly doubt that the Pros are taking 2-3 Anti E to keep Estrogen at 0. Low Estrogen is a recipe for Depression and OCD and other mental issues. Low Estrogen hurts gains big time, I'm sure they try to keep a health amounts of Estrogen but definately not on the low end more on the Mid to High End.
redsamurai said:
Estrogen is a FEMININE HORMONE. It won't make you gay but it will make you feel like a fag, a woman.
It will make you emotional... Did you see the MTV show True Life "I'm on steroids". Even the guy in that show he said "i don't feel like a man, i feel like a daughter".
I honestly doubt that the Pros are taking 2-3 Anti E to keep Estrogen at 0. Low Estrogen is a recipe for Depression and OCD and other mental issues. Low Estrogen hurts gains big time, I'm sure they try to keep a health amounts of Estrogen but definately not on the low end more on the Mid to High End.
redsamurai
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Re: Saw Jay Cutler's new DVD One Step Closer and the guy in the video, he dont look t
it doesn't hurt gains "big time".......every steroid guru acknowldeges that gains are "minimally" better with some estrogen in your system, nobody knows why.......but it's only "minimal". And I guarantee you come contest time they are at near zero estrogen because they can't have any bloat and certainly no titties......whether they take two or three or just one is irrelevant, estrogen is on lockdown period! And the fact that you watch MTV say's enough, end of story..........now go learn something.
By the way, BC may be over characterizing pro bb'ing "somewhat"......no, not all the guys have to fag out for money......some have wealthy parents who have supported them. But BC is not far off either.........there's ALOT of that shit happening in pro bb'ing. If you're an aspiring pro bb'er but can't compete because you have to hold down a full time job and pay bills etc..... And some rich guy offers to bankroll you in exchange for....well.....whatever.............you're gonna do it.
it doesn't hurt gains "big time".......every steroid guru acknowldeges that gains are "minimally" better with some estrogen in your system, nobody knows why.......but it's only "minimal". And I guarantee you come contest time they are at near zero estrogen because they can't have any bloat and certainly no titties......whether they take two or three or just one is irrelevant, estrogen is on lockdown period! And the fact that you watch MTV say's enough, end of story..........now go learn something.
By the way, BC may be over characterizing pro bb'ing "somewhat"......no, not all the guys have to fag out for money......some have wealthy parents who have supported them. But BC is not far off either.........there's ALOT of that shit happening in pro bb'ing. If you're an aspiring pro bb'er but can't compete because you have to hold down a full time job and pay bills etc..... And some rich guy offers to bankroll you in exchange for....well.....whatever.............you're gonna do it.
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zk7
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Re: Saw Jay Cutler's new DVD One Step Closer and the guy in the video, he dont look t
Well if your a Pro Bodybuilder who doesn't have the money to buy all the gear all the time and resort to prostituting yourself for your worthless bodybuilding career, then your a piece of shit to begin with. No one with morals will prostitute themselves for anything. These ppl who prostitute themselves, they were losers and prostitutes BEFORE bbuilding. Further more, Athony roberts and Nelson Montana and other Gurus ALL STATED THAT ESTROGEN IS ESSENTIAL IN MUSCLE GROWTH, ESTROGEN is Essential in not only Muscle Growth but Mental Health.
The fact that they would keep Estrogen low Year Round,is completely ridiculous, their gains would be Halfed. Estrogen is required to get good gains if you suppress Estrogen too much, heh your strenght is gonna be Reduced dramatically. Estrogen is also critical for mental health, and that explains why Jay Cutler brushes his teeth 10 times a day the weeks leading up to the Contest , its because his Estrogen is so damn low hes miserable and OCD illness is linked with low estrogen.
But anyways, point is Year Round, i doubt they suppress Estrogen that much, im sure they take 1 Anti E thats it, not 3-4 and they keep Estro at a healthy to moderate High Levels.
redsamurai said:
Well if your a Pro Bodybuilder who doesn't have the money to buy all the gear all the time and resort to prostituting yourself for your worthless bodybuilding career, then your a piece of shit to begin with. No one with morals will prostitute themselves for anything. These ppl who prostitute themselves, they were losers and prostitutes BEFORE bbuilding. Further more, Athony roberts and Nelson Montana and other Gurus ALL STATED THAT ESTROGEN IS ESSENTIAL IN MUSCLE GROWTH, ESTROGEN is Essential in not only Muscle Growth but Mental Health.
The fact that they would keep Estrogen low Year Round,is completely ridiculous, their gains would be Halfed. Estrogen is required to get good gains if you suppress Estrogen too much, heh your strenght is gonna be Reduced dramatically. Estrogen is also critical for mental health, and that explains why Jay Cutler brushes his teeth 10 times a day the weeks leading up to the Contest , its because his Estrogen is so damn low hes miserable and OCD illness is linked with low estrogen.
But anyways, point is Year Round, i doubt they suppress Estrogen that much, im sure they take 1 Anti E thats it, not 3-4 and they keep Estro at a healthy to moderate High Levels.
BigCracker
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Re: Saw Jay Cutler's new DVD One Step Closer and the guy in the video, he dont look t
So with that being said, gay guys could be cured of "gayness" if they took more anti-E's??? Sounds like a Nobel Prize winning discovery to me!!!!
And I can't believe you're using MTV's True Life I'm On Steroids as a valid source of AS 411? That alone speaks volumes about your misinformed self.
I can't believe that even after my claims have been substantiated by many others on this thread that you still refuse to see the light.
Therefore here's Wikipedia Definition Of Denial:
Denial is a defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too painful to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimisation) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference). The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction.
The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death, dying and rape. More recent research has significantly expanded the scope and utility of the concept. Elisabeth Kübler-Ross used denial as the first of five stages in the psychology of a dying patient, and the idea has been extended to include the reactions of survivors to news of a death. Thus, when parents are informed of the death of a child, their first reaction is often of the form, "No! You must have the wrong house, you can't mean our child!"
Unlike some other defense mechanisms postulated by psychoanalytic theory (for instance, repression), the general existence of denial is fairly easy to verify, even for non-specialists. On the other hand, denial is one of the most controversial defense mechanisms, since it can be easily used to create unfalsifiable theories: anything the subject says or does that appears to disprove the interpreter's theory is explained, not as evidence that the interpreter's theory is wrong, but as the subject's being "in denial".
A commonly-cited example of spurious denial is the psychologist who insists, against all evidence, that his patient is homosexual: any attempt by the patient to disprove the theory (as by pointing out his strong desire for women) is evidence of denial and thus evidence of the underlying theory. This tension can become serious, especially in areas such as child abuse and recovered memory. Proponents often respond to allegations of false memory by asserting that the subjects are genuine victims who have reverted to denial. Critics reply (some seriously, some less so) that it is the proponents who are in denial about the tenuousness of their theories. The End
Man up Jesus Boy! Sorry if the truth is too much for you to handle. It has to be tough to adjust to the fact that you are indeed much further from becoming a pro BB than you had originally thought. Amidst the flames I'm honestly trying to help you here. But if you refuse to see this stuff for what it is, you will never be objective about what it is that you're trying to accomplish-whether it's winning Mr. O or Mr. Backyard.
You remind me of the young poor stupid kid that has dreams of becoming a brain surgeon-yet you have no clue on how you're going to be able to get into a decent college with a 2.0 GPA, afford the costs of med school, graduate, and start your own practice. It sounds cool when you say it-but when it comes to actually doing it you're likely too stupid and poor to actually do it. Sure, there's still ways to accomplish this for some, but until you analyze the facts and are honest with yourself about the many hoops you will need to jump through to get there, you'll just be spinning your wheels.
zk7 said:
So with that being said, gay guys could be cured of "gayness" if they took more anti-E's??? Sounds like a Nobel Prize winning discovery to me!!!!
And I can't believe you're using MTV's True Life I'm On Steroids as a valid source of AS 411? That alone speaks volumes about your misinformed self.
I can't believe that even after my claims have been substantiated by many others on this thread that you still refuse to see the light.
Therefore here's Wikipedia Definition Of Denial:
Denial is a defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too painful to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimisation) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference). The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction.
The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death, dying and rape. More recent research has significantly expanded the scope and utility of the concept. Elisabeth Kübler-Ross used denial as the first of five stages in the psychology of a dying patient, and the idea has been extended to include the reactions of survivors to news of a death. Thus, when parents are informed of the death of a child, their first reaction is often of the form, "No! You must have the wrong house, you can't mean our child!"
Unlike some other defense mechanisms postulated by psychoanalytic theory (for instance, repression), the general existence of denial is fairly easy to verify, even for non-specialists. On the other hand, denial is one of the most controversial defense mechanisms, since it can be easily used to create unfalsifiable theories: anything the subject says or does that appears to disprove the interpreter's theory is explained, not as evidence that the interpreter's theory is wrong, but as the subject's being "in denial".
A commonly-cited example of spurious denial is the psychologist who insists, against all evidence, that his patient is homosexual: any attempt by the patient to disprove the theory (as by pointing out his strong desire for women) is evidence of denial and thus evidence of the underlying theory. This tension can become serious, especially in areas such as child abuse and recovered memory. Proponents often respond to allegations of false memory by asserting that the subjects are genuine victims who have reverted to denial. Critics reply (some seriously, some less so) that it is the proponents who are in denial about the tenuousness of their theories. The End
Man up Jesus Boy! Sorry if the truth is too much for you to handle. It has to be tough to adjust to the fact that you are indeed much further from becoming a pro BB than you had originally thought. Amidst the flames I'm honestly trying to help you here. But if you refuse to see this stuff for what it is, you will never be objective about what it is that you're trying to accomplish-whether it's winning Mr. O or Mr. Backyard.
You remind me of the young poor stupid kid that has dreams of becoming a brain surgeon-yet you have no clue on how you're going to be able to get into a decent college with a 2.0 GPA, afford the costs of med school, graduate, and start your own practice. It sounds cool when you say it-but when it comes to actually doing it you're likely too stupid and poor to actually do it. Sure, there's still ways to accomplish this for some, but until you analyze the facts and are honest with yourself about the many hoops you will need to jump through to get there, you'll just be spinning your wheels.
BigCracker
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Powerbuilder333 said:
I think zk7 may be a little bi-serious.
thelethalweapon
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dude,. you are a fucking asshole. its his job, and the way he makes a living, and your (probabally skinny) ass is going to knock him, for doing his job and the "hazards" a that come with it!!!!!zk7 said:
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