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distanced said:

that is a world I would not like to live in.

Because you are a pussy bleeding heart liberal. Everything you listed is obtainable to a motivated individual. Believe me when you are in a place where everyone is armed, you would be surprised how polite everyone is to each other. You are getting just like that crybaby Frackle.
 
What do you guys mean by "muredred 12 people" ??

and what's wrong with full auto weapons ? You think they're more effective ? lol RCMP's ERT don't even have full autos and from what I've heard they would take a semi-auto over a full anytime. Full autos are fun. Period.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


Honestly...not to disrespect the Constitution or anything...but the second amendmant is a fucking outdated piece of bullshit that people use to their advantage. The right to form militias?!?!?! This was written back in the day, when there would actually be a reason to form militias and carry firearms. Not for people in 2003 to carry full auto rifles, sawed of shot guns, explosives and murder 12 people.

It pisses me off when people bring up the 2nd amendmant.

yes, because the government will take care of us, right?

How history-illiterate are you?
 
distanced said:
the movie has completely changed its bias.


It's a movie. Youcan pretty much throw objectivity out the window, because you're subject to media filters and sterilized presentation.
 
distanced said:
Hulkster has officially broke out his diesel backhoe to dig the hole he's in deeper

Are you really a federal employee?
 
distanced said:
full auto rifles, sawed of shot guns, explosives and the murder of 12 people are not constitutional rights!

OK.. now I have seen.. read or heard it all!!!!

Please tell me who killed these 12 people?

Let me ask you a question.. do you know who the first person who was killed in that standoff was? Do you know what happened? Of course you don't, you saw a bullshit fucking movie.

Let me kick you some facts. The first person that was killed was a 14 year-old boy. The son of Randy Weaver. Let me tell you why he was killed. The FBI/US Marshall Service. sent snipers on the the land to stalk the Weavers. While they were out hunting, the dog spotted the agents. The dog began barking and as Sammy (the 14 year old) turned to look at the dog and what he was barking at.. the fucking agent shot the boys dog.. so the 14 year old Sammy fired a shot in the direction of the sniper and turned around and began running home. With his back to these brave agents.. they shot a 14 year old boy in the back.. while he was running away!!!

There is alot more to this story.. I do not have the time to write it all out here, but I will tell you this too, the FBI dragged that dog back up in front of the house and then ran it over again and again with their trucks... just to torture Weaver and his family.

So do not give me your bullshit story about how these people were crazy. There were no RPG's or fully auto weapons. I had 3 close friends arrested trying to bring these people food. (it is all in Weavers book) I know the real story on this one. All of you people that belive the lies they are telling you on your favorite TV channel or show need to compare stories to those from non-payed witnesses. Same with Waco, in both cases the media was kept at least 3 miles away and all reports were given by the government. So right there should tell you somthing.. if the news is allowed to go into a warzone and report in Iraq, Vietnam, Somalia and Kuwait... why would it be forbidden to see or hear what was going on at these two standoffs?

THINK!!!!
 
dballer said:


OK.. now I have seen.. read or heard it all!!!!

Please tell me who killed these 12 people?

Let me ask you a question.. do you know who the first person who was killed in that standoff was? Do you know what happened? Of course you don't, you saw a bullshit fucking movie.

Let me kick you some facts. The first person that was killed was a 14 year-old boy. The son of Randy Weaver. Let me tell you why he was killed. The FBI/US Marshall Service. sent snipers on the the land to stalk the Weavers. While they were out hunting, the dog spotted the agents. The dog began barking and as Sammy (the 14 year old) turned to look at the dog and what he was barking at.. the fucking agent shot the boys dog.. so the 14 year old Sammy fired a shot in the direction of the sniper and turned around and began running home. With his back to these brave agents.. they shot a 14 year old boy in the back.. while he was running away!!!

There is alot more to this story.. I do not have the time to write it all out here, but I will tell you this too, the FBI dragged that dog back up in front of the house and then ran it over again and again with their trucks... just to torture Weaver and his family.

So do not give me your bullshit story about how these people were crazy. There were no RPG's or fully auto weapons. I had 3 close friends arrested trying to bring these people food. (it is all in Weavers book) I know the real story on this one. All of you people that belive the lies they are telling you on your favorite TV channel or show need to compare stories to those from non-payed witnesses. Same with Waco, in both cases the media was kept at least 3 miles away and all reports were given by the government. So right there should tell you somthing.. if the news is allowed to go into a warzone and report in Iraq, Vietnam, Somalia and Kuwait... why would it be forbidden to see or hear what was going on at these two standoffs?

THINK!!!!

wow I'm speechless...
 
JibbyJabba said:


Not to be disrepectful, but you ought to better acquaint yourself with the US Constitution (specifically the 16th Amendment) before making claims like this.

Predicting your response...an amendment supercedes the original document.

"No legislative act … contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 78

"The Constitution allows only the means which are ‘necessary,’ not those which are merely ‘convenient,’ for effecting the enumerated powers. If such a latitude of construction be allowed to this phrase as to give any non-enumerated power, it will go to every one, for there is not one which ingenuity may not torture into a convenience in some instance or other, to some one of so long a list of enumerated powers. It would swallow up all the delegated powers, and reduce the whole to one power, as before observed" - Thomas Jefferson, 1791

The Constitution expressly denied the government the power to lay direct taxes on citizens. If you give the government the power to circumvent and obtain that power which they do not hold, then what benefit is it to even attempt to corall their power?

OH...I forget, the Constitution is an "organic" document
:p
 
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