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Real Men...GOP needs your services

Re: Re: Real Men...GOP needs your services

smokinghawk said:


If I want:

1. Better social services provided by all the taxes I spend, isntead of $200 BILLION in corporate welfare a year;

2. Ethnic and cultural diversity, including a recognition of Native treaty rights;

3. More citizen access to the justice system in regards to government or corporate misconduct;

4. Less Bible-banging disguised as "domestic policy;"

5. Less harassment of people whose sexual, physical, ideological, or even chemical-use behaviors differs from a narrowly-imposed order;

6. Tax relief for anyone else besides just the wealthiest fraction of citizens;

7. Freedom of speech, including the right to dissent and challenge my government's actions on ANY topic ofmy choosing;

8. Reform of the death penalty (or at least a debate based on research, not merely opinions and bluster);

9. A challenge to the WTO and IMF's strangulation of American rights (not to mention those of other nations);

10. Foriegn policies based on actual human rights, not merely siding with whatever monsters happen to hate the same people as us;

11. Stronger controls against police brutality;

12. The right to petition, protest, and assemble peacefully without being beaten or tear-gassed;

13. The right to choose my own candidates rather than having the empowered oligarchy select them for me;

14. The right not to be confronted with the implication that I am not a "real man" if I dissent from the GOP's positions...

Then who do I vote for? Which party do I support?

wait a minute... you're telling me that the GOP doesn't support these ideals? no way.
 
So the libertarians have stepped up to the plate. Bully for them. Too bad they don't step to the election booth. Closest thing to a libertarian that won an important position was Jesse. He didn't bother to run again. That is EXTREMELY rare.

I find libertarianism interesting much like the person who walks around nude in public. They would be the same if they ever achieved real power because power is derived from money.

Yes...it has been my considered experience that the vast majority of American men who would fit the typical definition of being a real man....are Republicans. I have conducted political surveys and continue to do so.One learns a lot doing this.
 
Testosterone boy said:
So the libertarians have stepped up to the plate. Bully for them. Too bad they don't step to the election booth. Closest thing to a libertarian that won an important position was Jesse. He didn't bother to run again. That is EXTREMELY rare.

I find libertarianism interesting much like the person who walks around nude in public. They would be the same if they ever achieved real power because power is derived from money.

Yes...it has been my considered experience that the vast majority of American men who would fit the typical definition of being a real man....are Republicans. I have conducted political surveys and continue to do so.One learns a lot doing this.

Yopu're high or misinformed. The elephant is just as bad for us as the donkey. I usually vote the Big R because they tend to be better for the military, and are business oriented. They also have abrogated a ton of rights and continue to do so.

Do "real men" support a 33% tax bracket just because it is better than 39%? Or do they realize that they are getting rooked at any such rate?

Let's face it, the Big R and the Big D have fundamentally the same large donors. It's not the Christian Coalition (right) or teh trial lawyers (left) that are the ones giving these parties all of their money. Sure, they contribute, but across the board, there is more money given by corporations to get specialized legislation passed, than anything else.

Bottom line is, American get divided over issues. There are people (married men among them!!) who pick a candidate based on abortion - stance. How stupid!!

Whether is the the republicans' police state or terh democrats' welfare state, both parties seek only growth, which by defintion must be financed by and come at the expense (lost liberties/rights) of every day citizens. The two party system is the perfect vehicle to do this. Divide and conquer the American people.

You seriously need to wake the fizzzuck up if you are that into one party.

The LP has the right ideas and not enough brainpower or leadership. Their whole strategy is wrong, and they are coming up zeroes on tactics as well. In a nutshell, they have to drive home the point that the federal government (either party) is only concerned about revenue, and provide numerous examples of how shameless lobbying and pandering drive federal - level legislation today.

Step 2 is to decentralize the LP and let the state LPs develop a platform central to their state's needs.

Instead, the LP wastes its time on "pie in the sky" ideals that sound good, but they never talk implementation. wonder why? :)
 
MTS...you need to make your mind up about the LP. Earlier this evening you slammed them pretty hard.

No party will get good marks in a recessionary environment plagued by terrorism fears.
 
Testosterone boy said:
MTS...you need to make your mind up about the LP. Earlier this evening you slammed them pretty hard.

No party will get good marks in a recessionary environment plagued by terrorism fears.


LP needs to be re-oriented. Good ideas, bad approach. That's all.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:



LP needs to be re-oriented. Good ideas, bad approach. That's all.

I'd agree with much of that. Do you thin they could maintain their "purity" if they were a real contender with equal funding? I don't...parties are forced to pander to their funders.

What we REALLY need is campaign finance reform...I think. It sounds good. In practice...I'm not sure. Changes are usually made in the hopes of improvement. Do they usually improve anything?
 
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