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[exitus_acta_probat]

Hi, just idly wondering about a few things in class today and I realized that I could ask you guys instead of speculately.

1. Besides parabolan, has tren ever been made with a longer lasting ester or is this not possible? Seems like it'd be nice for folks to not have to inject ED or EOD and still get to use tren.

2. I don't think that twitched ever got an answer regarding the amount of EQ left in the system that wouldn't affect the HPTA and allow for the start of clomid therapy... I thought it was a really good question and have no answer myself, do you?

3. Since I've never heard of anyone every being able to try it because of the high cost and limited availability, have any of you ever found any info regarding high doses of oxandrolone, like 80+mg/day? It is often stated that its effects on the HPTA are minimal and the sides nearly non-existant... but I think that might be as much from the fact that few people use more than like 40mg/day than from it really being so harmless compared to other AAS.

4. Here's a goofy one: why do U.S. companies like Upjohn prefer test cyp when everyone else around the world uses enanthate? Since their half-lifes are so similar, it seems like it would be cheaper and easier to join the crowd and uses enanthate, what possible advantage does cyp confer?

5. How useful would it be to progressively increase calories throughout a cycle... like this

start: weight=200 lbs. take in 4500+ calories/day
after 4 weeks: weight equals 215, bump up to 5000 calories/day

the gains start slowing down because you're at a higher baseline, greater metabolism, etc. so if you kept escalating your daily caloric intake throughout the cycle, could you keep the gains coming a little better or would you just end up a fat ass? Kind of the opposite of steroid dieting, most folks have to keep increasing the caloric deficit as they lose bf to break the equilibrium... does this make any sense?

uggh... I guess that will do for now, sorry for writing so much, but I'm just trying to learn.

 

[justwannagetsum]

Besides parabolan, has tren ever been made with a longer lasting ester or is this not possible? Seems like it'd be nice for folks to not have to inject ED or EOD and still get to use tren.

The onl tren available is acetate. Anyone who has an other kind of tren is ripping ou off

I don't think that twitched ever got an answer regarding the amount of EQ left in the system that wouldn't affect the HPTA and allow for the start of clomid therapy... I thought it was a really good question and have no answer myself, do you?

Start clomid 3 weeks after EQ. any amount of androgen will inhibit hpta. The more androgen, the less hpta.



4. Here's a goofy one: why do U.S. companies like Upjohn prefer test cyp when everyone else around the world uses enanthate? Since their half-lifes are so similar, it seems like it would be cheaper and easier to join the crowd and uses enanthate, what possible advantage does cyp confer?

The drug company bTG out of NJ is an American company that makes enathate under the brand "delatestryl" for the US as well as oxandrin. I dont get the relavance of this question. Cyp is made everywhere.

 

[exitus_acta_probat]

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Don't worry, nobody's trying to sell me any 'tren decanoate'. I'm just wondering whether such products could be useful or even makeable. I'm also sadly aware of the fact that parabolan hasn't been produced since 1997. But what's stopping a company like from making tren products with other esters besides acetate?

Well, I've read/heard the three weeks before, but I think that it would make a big difference if someone was running 150mg/wk EQ vs. 800mg/wk... with its long half-life there will still be a lot of EQ in the blood after 3 weeks at high doses, that's why it would be more useful to be able to say, "once total EQ blood level gets below say 50mg, then you can start clomid as the HPTA shouldn't be substantially inhibited by this amount."

I am aware that there are U.S. companies who use enanthate, but it still doesn't explain why most of them use cyp and most foreign labs, e.g. Jenapharm, Schering, the folks in India, Iran, pump out enanthate instead. I'm wondering whether it's simply a matter of preference or if there's some kind of economics, historical oddity, etc. that made cyp. so popular in the U.S.

 

[Evik]

3. Since I've never heard of anyone every being able to try it because of the high cost and limited availability, have any of you ever found any info regarding high doses of oxandrolone, like 80+mg/day? It is often stated that its effects on the HPTA are minimal and the sides nearly non-existant... but I think that might be as much from the fact that few people use more than like 40mg/day than from it really being so harmless compared to other AAS.

Oxandrolone does in fact supress HPTA. And it is not minimal. Another post was on here today about this.

5. How useful would it be to progressively increase calories throughout a cycle... like this

Very important. Without more calories when needed, you will plateau and stop growing.