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what you thinking about this approach:
taking 25 grams of carbs on TKD before workout and
50 grams after workout?
Both diets are forms of low carbohydrate diets which cause the body to enter ketosis. TKD is a Targeted Ketonic Diet where carbs are “targeted” to only pre- and post-workout. Carbs are restricted to a set number, usually 50 grams which is divided between pre- and post-workout. This is the only carb intake TKD allows for; if you don’t lift you don’t need carbs for extra glycogen. CKD is a Cyclical Ketonic Diet where a person follows a severely restricted carbohydrate intake for around 5 days then has 1 or 2 high carb days, and then cycles back to the carb restriction. Most people follow a CKD by carb-restricting during the week then carb-loading on the weekend. From my experience and of those I worked with I’ve found the TKD to be a far superior diet. The problem with CKD is that carbs are most essential pre- and post-workout; TKD addresses this problem where CKD does not allow for carbs except on carb load days. So most workouts will not have proper recovery or the benefit of the protein-sparing effect carbs have on post-workout. The other problem I’ve noticed with CKD is most trainees will spend 5 days of being very rigid with their diet. Then they use the weekend carb loads to cheat like hell. On a CKD if a trainee has a craving for pizza or ice cream the weekend carb load is when they are allowed to have it, but the fact that the carb load is a strategic part of the diet seems to get thrown out the window. So rather than satisfying the craving and getting a slice or two of pizza the weekend turns into a binge-fest of high carb AND high fat food. Now this certainly isn’t the case with everyone but if a trainee is not getting the desired results from their CKD it’s no stretch of the imagination to say that thei are being too liberal with the carb-ups. I prefer TKD because it addresses both the problems I mentioned; the diet systematically controls binging and addresses the need for carbs around the time of the workout. From my experience I feel 50 grams of carbs is a little too low so I recommend 25 grams pre-workout and 50 grams post-workout. What I like about a TKD is if a trainee is feeling a craving, having some post-workout ice cream (or any other cheat) is the most opportune time to have a cheat meal since more of the calories will go towards recovery and glycogen replacement than fat storage. Also, I’ve noticed that when a trainee knows he is limited to 50 grams of carbs, if he is going to have a cheat meal he is more conscientious in keeping the cheat small and staying within the realms of the diet. On a CKD where there are no real restrictions placed on the carb-up meal, the trainee decides that a whopper with fries would hit the spot.
taking 25 grams of carbs on TKD before workout and
50 grams after workout?
Both diets are forms of low carbohydrate diets which cause the body to enter ketosis. TKD is a Targeted Ketonic Diet where carbs are “targeted” to only pre- and post-workout. Carbs are restricted to a set number, usually 50 grams which is divided between pre- and post-workout. This is the only carb intake TKD allows for; if you don’t lift you don’t need carbs for extra glycogen. CKD is a Cyclical Ketonic Diet where a person follows a severely restricted carbohydrate intake for around 5 days then has 1 or 2 high carb days, and then cycles back to the carb restriction. Most people follow a CKD by carb-restricting during the week then carb-loading on the weekend. From my experience and of those I worked with I’ve found the TKD to be a far superior diet. The problem with CKD is that carbs are most essential pre- and post-workout; TKD addresses this problem where CKD does not allow for carbs except on carb load days. So most workouts will not have proper recovery or the benefit of the protein-sparing effect carbs have on post-workout. The other problem I’ve noticed with CKD is most trainees will spend 5 days of being very rigid with their diet. Then they use the weekend carb loads to cheat like hell. On a CKD if a trainee has a craving for pizza or ice cream the weekend carb load is when they are allowed to have it, but the fact that the carb load is a strategic part of the diet seems to get thrown out the window. So rather than satisfying the craving and getting a slice or two of pizza the weekend turns into a binge-fest of high carb AND high fat food. Now this certainly isn’t the case with everyone but if a trainee is not getting the desired results from their CKD it’s no stretch of the imagination to say that thei are being too liberal with the carb-ups. I prefer TKD because it addresses both the problems I mentioned; the diet systematically controls binging and addresses the need for carbs around the time of the workout. From my experience I feel 50 grams of carbs is a little too low so I recommend 25 grams pre-workout and 50 grams post-workout. What I like about a TKD is if a trainee is feeling a craving, having some post-workout ice cream (or any other cheat) is the most opportune time to have a cheat meal since more of the calories will go towards recovery and glycogen replacement than fat storage. Also, I’ve noticed that when a trainee knows he is limited to 50 grams of carbs, if he is going to have a cheat meal he is more conscientious in keeping the cheat small and staying within the realms of the diet. On a CKD where there are no real restrictions placed on the carb-up meal, the trainee decides that a whopper with fries would hit the spot.
