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Question about Needtogetaas?????

Gary4949

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I have been reading alot on this forum and have purchased alot of products from NTBM.com. I ventured out to other weightlifting sights and forums. They had at least 3 sights talk very poorly about Needtogetass products. They even posted pictures and I must say that he really didn't look very fit. I know alot of information on the net is false but given all the information is the products he supports legit or not???


I understand now that the pictures posted of Needtogetaas are all old. The people posting them obviously hate the guy because they never post any of his more recent pictures!
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You can find them on any of his profiles
https://www.facebook.com/Needtogetaas
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/nathan-chase/40/5a4/322
http://www.facebook.com/Needtogetaas
http://www.myspace.com/461789344
https://plus.google.com/i/862TUm_6DYQ:NDKCs7D5jNo
https://plus.google.com/103277249425217662416
https://plus.google.com/117469113047032406572
https://twitter.com/Needtogetaas
 
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Re: Question about Needtogetass?????

You are going to be hard pressed to get a straight answer on here considering how "powerful" needtogetaas and other sponsors of N2BM are on this site. You are going to have to choose to believe the positive reviews on this site, or believe the negative reviews on other sites. Trying the products out yourself is the best option. Personally, I am slightly nervous to use their products for PCT, but so many people on here have recommended them/taken them that I'm willing to try them out. I plan on getting blood work done after my PCT is completed and if my levels are good, then I will be a customer for life.
 
Take me for example man, I was JUST as skeptical about Beastdrol katanadrol and hcgenerate and NTKTS and unleashed/post cycle
...but yesterday was my last day of the whole cycle. With just decent dieting and lifting 5 days a week I can tell you that my maxxes and PRS went through the fucking roof man!
I gained 17lbs and actually lost BF! I'm telling you right now their products will be banned soon bc there is simply no way they can stay legal for long! There's just no way. Hcgenerate will give you boners FOR DAAAYYYSS bro! Even on cycle?! Lol I'm a nobody on here man I'm just a fan of him and his products and you have to believe they're as real as they get. Fuck d Bol man, fuck any oral out there! Beast is where it's at lol
Ohhhh and forma stanzas is also a lifesaver btw :)
 
Proof is in the pudding. I've been nothing but happy with everything I've tried. More pleased the. Anything that came from gnc which is all I've ever had to choose from other then blindly buying something from the net. Bought sine good ph from max muscle but they aren't here for me anymore. I had to make my on opinion about everything on here and I've been extremely pleased. I've never looked anywhere else and don't know why anyone else would. I've only been here for less then a year so I don't really " know " anyone from the forum. Ive seen nothing but good giving stuff from him.
 
Re: Question about Needtogetass?????

There are plenty of haters for NTBM and needto, so look at your sources of information first of all. To tell you the truth I was surprised to see the title of this thread as needto is the Iron Angel here on EF. Have you read any of needto's threads? That would be a start, because I am assuming you are an intelligent individual and you can decipher information for yourself to see if needto is knowledgeable in his field. Let me help you...I am not trying to be rude, it just really pisses me off when I hear shit like this about a guy who's passion is helping EVERYONE he can!

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...e-support-drug-steroid-user-bible-778853.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/taking-anabolic-steroids-101-a-642856.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/g...gens-side-effects-preventing-gyno-720251.html

Go ahead and read about who needto is for yourself and come to an intelligent conclusion...and instead of asking in a thread.

As far as NTBM supplements...oh they are legit bro! HCGenerate, need2slin, N2 Amp, N2KTS, Whey to Build Muscle Protein, N2 Guard, Gear...my favorite, N2 Bulk, Bridge, and many others that I have used and use at this very moment...and they are the best supplements I have ever used hands down.

You have to research him for yourself, and try his products for yourself as people react differently to supplements and ones that work well for me may not for you...but I will stand behind Need to Build Muscle 1000%, and there is a 100% money back guarantee...he honors it 100%! He also gives free shipping...no other company does that.

What products have you tried may I ask???
 
Re: Question about Needtogetass?????

There are plenty of haters for NTBM and needto, so look at your sources of information first of all. To tell you the truth I was surprised to see the title of this thread as needto is the Iron Angel here on EF. Have you read any of needto's threads? That would be a start, because I am assuming you are an intelligent individual and you can decipher information for yourself to see if needto is knowledgeable in his field. Let me help you...I am not trying to be rude, it just really pisses me off when I hear shit like this about a guy who's passion is helping EVERYONE he can!

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...e-support-drug-steroid-user-bible-778853.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/taking-anabolic-steroids-101-a-642856.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/g...gens-side-effects-preventing-gyno-720251.html

Go ahead and read about who needto is for yourself and come to an intelligent conclusion...and instead of asking in a thread.

As far as NTBM supplements...oh they are legit bro! HCGenerate, need2slin, N2 Amp, N2KTS, Whey to Build Muscle Protein, N2 Guard, Gear...my favorite, N2 Bulk, Bridge, and many others that I have used and use at this very moment...and they are the best supplements I have ever used hands down.

You have to research him for yourself, and try his products for yourself as people react differently to supplements and ones that work well for me may not for you...but I will stand behind Need to Build Muscle 1000%, and there is a 100% money back guarantee...he honors it 100%! He also gives free shipping...no other company does that.

What products have you tried may I ask???

Intelligent conclusions also happen from getting other people's perspectives on an issue - I think Gary4949 asking the question in an open forum is totally fair. This forum is heavily weighted toward NTBM/MrSupps products and you yourself are afilliated with them which can be seen from reading this forum for a while.

I am a customer of Needto's products. Are they better or worse than other products...? You'll see a lot of off-the-charts AAA ratings here, but I'm still figuring that out for myself product-wise. One thing to be said though - the customer service is impressive. Also, I don't care what needto looks like in person, and i have read him dropping good knowledge in here.

In my closing statement, the Cinnamon Bun Whey + Skim Milk tastes like the best 800 cal milkshake ever invented, and it's nothing but nutritious. Top notch.

Salutations.
 
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Take me for example man, I was JUST as skeptical about Beastdrol katanadrol and hcgenerate and NTKTS and unleashed/post cycle
...but yesterday was my last day of the whole cycle. With just decent dieting and lifting 5 days a week I can tell you that my maxxes and PRS went through the fucking roof man!
I gained 17lbs and actually lost BF! I'm telling you right now their products will be banned soon bc there is simply no way they can stay legal for long! There's just no way. Hcgenerate will give you boners FOR DAAAYYYSS bro! Even on cycle?! Lol I'm a nobody on here man I'm just a fan of him and his products and you have to believe they're as real as they get. Fuck d Bol man, fuck any oral out there! Beast is where it's at lol
Ohhhh and forma stanzas is also a lifesaver btw :)
Of course your going to like beast and katana theyre steroids
 
I got on here last year some time prepping for "getting down to business". I've been lifting since I was in the 8th grade and worked as a personal trainer when I was a sophomore in HS. I played college football and during all of those times through today's can tell you that if it were not for this site I prolly wouldn't have stumbled upon his products not saying for sure but guessing.
My point is going to a GNC and talking to a 45 year old woman working behind the counter who's out of weight wouldn't be a problem but most of the time they don't even know whats going on much less the effects of creating. Conversely I've worked for a gym owner who by first glance seemed like a nerdy balding slightly over weight man, then I worked out with him. He broke my balls down he was in that great of shape. You can't judge a book by its cover and just because he may not look like Ronnie Coleman doesn't mean he doesn't know how to put some chemistry and cooking to good use.
Bottom line is this, after using NTGAAS products I'll never step foot in a GNC again. I've used his protein and never tasted a better blend, I've used their N2KTS in all flavors and holy shit does that stuff work as advertised. I've demoed out my own personal stuff to friends and coworkers just trying to get the word out. They all felt the same way I did, the shit works and is priced appropriately.
The reason why this site is more pro Needto is because, generally speaking, we have built our cycles, meals, knowledge, and regimens based on this technology and community. It works and there are plenty of us who know, not think or guess it works.
 
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NTBM products speak for themselves ....try them and decide for yourself - 100% money back gaurantee ( so dont be afraid to try them out ) . Folks on here love them because they are solid .

needto the man himself is a big guy ,he is not a bodybuilder - he is a power lifter and a strong bastard too !

Some sad little folks on other sites try to give him a hard time because they are bitter and hate to see a guy that had nothing ...become a sucessful business man, and as busy and time consuming as all that is - he still takes the time to help out EVERYBODY on this site that asks for help.
He gets thousands of PM's and no matter how long it takes he replies to ALL of them... so its not all about the money .
You can go to many other forums and see a shit ton of flaming and bashing noobs...that dont happen here coz he dont allow it, and the mods enforce it.

I wonder why Elitefitness is the BIGGEST anabolics discussion forum on the net ????

needtogetaas - thats why !

If this seems like a biased opinion its because he is a friend of mine ,but i challenge anybody to dispute the above.
 
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Bro ... if it wasn't for Needto's assistance and him referring me to all the correct and VERY knowledgeable people on EF when he was REALLY tightstrapped for time, then I would have had less than half the knowledge I have today. He has always made time and made me feel like I am the only person he needs to respond to when he assisted me. He is such a decent guy and has helped me soooooo much. I am a South African and it is hard for me to get N2BM products into the country ... and if I could, with postage and customs, it is just easier and cheaper for me to go old school with gear. He could've told me to get lost seeing that I am not putting anything into his business, but you what? He assisted me and sent me links to sites where I could learn about gear, how they work, what they do, what to expect etc. If I had ANY question about anything whatsoever, I dropped him a PM and he would respond with such a detailed breakdown it sometimes took me the bette part of 5 hours to work it through and grasp.

In short, I have read those posts on other forums as well ... and saw the pictures they link you to and thought to myself: "Myself, if they don't know the guy and haven't worked with him in obtaining your goal, then how the hell can they disrepute him like that?" For someone to be knowledgeable in supplements and gear and cycles and cause and effect and so forth and so forth, it shouldn't be a pre-requisite for that person to look like Jay Cutler, or Dorian Yates, or whoever! If you see scientists working on a cure for AIDS ... are they infected with it and are worn down and skinny and sickly? No. People who figured out how a bird manages to fly and developed the first aircraft ... did they have wings and looked kind of like birds? No, they didn't, but they still understood how things work and what needs to be done. The same here ... the Brotha knows his shit. Full stop. :D
 
I have read his post and looked at his resume and to say the least I was impressed; that is why I have spent hundreds of dollars on products he backs. The ones I have used such as whey protein and NTKTS I've been satisfied with, but I haven't started using the really important products for PCT yet. I wasn't trying to cause trouble I was trying to get information from both sides that's all. They had plenty of sites ripping him and posting pictures of him and if I must be honest he really didn't look fit at all that may be pictures from long ago but that did make me skeptical. Also after reasons Needtogetass post I assumed he was educated, but knowing how easily information can be optioned and copied/paste I wonder to hear some facts. I believe I read that Needtogetass has a few degrees in education that have to do with the human body and how it works; is everyone just taking his word or have y'all seen documentation; let me say this again I'm not trying to disrespect him I'm just trying to go straight to the source and get some info before I spend more money. Thanks for replies in advance.
 
The biggest misconception ive seen with ntbm is price. Ive never seen valid or serious quality complaints but I have seen people bitch about paying more for this quality. Well the problem with this argument is that u don't pay more. He's competitive on everything except maybe back when they did prohormones but they were pretty close to any other name brand ph's that u'll find on a site like orbit. With the discount code and free priority shipping its a pretty good service for the money. No doubt about it!


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LOL!!!!! Gary ... it's NeedtogetAAS ... not ASS! That just makes him sound like a dawg or queer! :D
 
Re: Question about Needtogetass?????

I have read his post and looked at his resume and to say the least I was impressed; that is why I have spent hundreds of dollars on products he backs. The ones I have used such as whey protein and NTKTS I've been satisfied with, but I haven't started using the really important products for PCT yet. I wasn't trying to cause trouble I was trying to get information from both sides that's all. They had plenty of sites ripping him and posting pictures of him and if I must be honest he really didn't look fit at all that may be pictures from long ago but that did make me skeptical. Also after reasons Needtogetass post I assumed he was educated, but knowing how easily information can be optioned and copied/paste I wonder to hear some facts. I believe I read that Needtogetass has a few degrees in education that have to do with the human body and how it works; is everyone just taking his word or have y'all seen documentation; let me say this again I'm not trying to disrespect him I'm just trying to go straight to the source and get some info before I spend more money. Thanks for replies in advance.

Look bro, let me make this easy for you to understand....nobody on here has to post up a resume a degree or any other personal details.

This is an anabolics discussion board not a fuckin job interview.

needto has nothing to prove to anybody here and to say he is highly thought of here would be putting it mildly !


With that said - you can still speak to the man yourself and make up your own mind.

as for the products ...they speak for themselves .

If you choose not to talk to him and find out for yourself if he is a stand up guy and then continue with further questions on his character .... you will be looking for a new forum to hang out in.

comprende ?
 
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Not affiliated with ntbm or elitefitness and NTBM products are top notch. His products really speak for themselves (money back guarantee backing), his shipping times are perfect and if you have a personal question for him he always seems to get to you within a few days and he really knows his shit.
 
Re: Question about Needtogetass?????

One thing that needs to be realized here... When a person experiences a high level of success in a very competitive industry, there will ALWAYS be people that have something negative to say. That's the nature of the game... That's how business works... So if you have read on other forums that people are talking shit about ntbm products and about Nate himself, there's a good chance they are either a competitor themselves or working for one... Or else they are still living the 80's era of steroid cycling... Regardless, the reputation, the product, the results, they all speak for themselves... Nate is a person that is one in a BILLION... Yeah, billion... how many other people running companies like Nate take the amount of time out their lives to help so many different people in so many different ways??? I would love to see just ONE NAME... because you will be hard fucking pressed to find JUST ONE... What he does is more than admirable... Its simply amazing...

I can tell you firsthand, that these products are top notch... My ratio of supps is probably about 90% of his and there's good reason... I have been at this for A VERY LONG TIME and have used so many different products... I have never had so many things work so well for me and help me get to levels I never thought possible... Not only that, but the knowledge I have gained from him is priceless... You can learn something from every post that he makes... So anyone out there that is running their mouth, they need to take a long hard look in the mirror and see they will not ever be half the fucking man that Nate is... and they can kiss my ass too! I stick by my fucking friends and if I stand up for you, then there's a damn good reason why!
 
Re: Question about Needtogetass?????

I think what really needs to be emphasized here are two things. Firstly, Needtogetaas regularly sends out products for free to people on this forum who have not tried them before simply to help them. No one who was not confident in their product would do that. Secondly, Needto offers a 100% money back guarantee (that he will actually honor) showing absolute confidence in his range.

No I am not a rep; my mere location can support that as I am down under in New Zealand.
 
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well I was a buyer of NTBM products for a while and was very happy... i was actually repping for ANOTHER supplement company back then but their products just didn't compare to NTBM products and since i would buy NTBM products anyway i was like damn why not just ask needto if i could join his team instead.. the other supplement dude was pissed off but i'm sorry but i would rather get work for NTBM than the other guy. better products and better everything.

to those who want an honest review you can test out the products yourself. i've said this many times. go on a tren cycle with no support supps and when you start getting hit with the tren sides then start taking n2guard, you will notice very quickly a change in the sides. your bp, heart rate, everything will improve. do that for a week or two.. then STOP taking the n2guard and see how fast your sides come back and how bad they become.

hcgenerate same thing.. let ur nuts shrink up during cycle then start taking hcgenerate and see how fast they plump back up. you will be amazed

and if you aren't happy with any of the products you can send them back. also you can get sample packs of the products and try them out.

the whey protein only has 2 grams of sugar but still tastes great. you won't find that anywhere else.

and you can look at all the pics of needto you want, he has been open and posted his facebook and phone number on here for all to see many times. he looks like he works for the boston mafia, he is a big scary dude. he never claimed to be a IFBB bodybuilder.. he is a normal former military guy who loves throwing heavy shit around.. he isn't some steroid addict injecting 4 grams of juice a week with Lebron James genetics at all. he is just like any of us on here. he is probably the top 5 most knowledeable guru's you will find anywhere, he has spent 1000's of hours researching the shit out of AAS, supplements, holistic health, etc. and if you look at the transformation contest it was him who took PLJ from looking like shit to looking like a stud. not sure what else he needs to prove after pulling that off!
 
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I don't post much but I do read here every day tho. You talk about his picture and being skeptical! Dude my doctor is fat and out of shape but he still a doctor. I came on this forum to learn about steroids and meet needto and this dude helped me transforms my body and for that alone he is one he'll of a good dude. As far as his product's well that's were I spend my money because they work for me.
 
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The photo worried me about wasting money as well, it shouldn't, but it did

he never claimed to be an IFBB bodybuilder though.. thats the thing. and what difference does it make what he looks like, its the products, service, quality, price, and shipping that should dictate where you buy your supps from. also the rep team of NTBM as a whole looks 100X better than the typical person and we are using the products everyday.

do you think GNC's CEO looks like a bodybuilder? no he is probably a fat ugly middle aged white guy in a suit sitting on his yacht all day smoking a cigar. the whole marketing division of gnc is made up of 25 year old 155 pound pimple faced kids out of college who know nothing about bodybuilding or cycling. NTBM is HARDCORE products for hardcore guys who JUICE. the reps i would say 90% of us juice and have a lot of experience, so you can ask us questions and we can actually answer.. good luck getting that from GNC reps! and it should tell you something that we stick with NTBM as reps and love the products.. i could rep for ANYONE i want to. but i CHOOSE to rep for NTBM cause of the products :)

needto is a normal guy like you and me.. so you can buy from the rich CEO who only cares about getting a bigger yacht and will sell you inferior products or you can buy from a normal guy who will actually help you use the product the best way and help set up your cycle etc. your decision.

on the flipside would you eat mcdonalds hamburgers just cause Michael Jordan is shown on a commercial eating them? i mean he is considered one of the best players in NBA history so the fact he eats mcdonalds burgers must mean if i eat them i will turn into him right? mcdonalds sponsors the entire US olympic team. we are the only country in the world that DOES NOT sponsor our own athletes.. corporations do.. hence they will endorse pepsi, coca cola, mcdonalds etc. just cause you see commercials with them drinking and eating junk doesn't mean that if you copy them you will turn into them nor should you listen. so just cause someone looks the part doesn't mean you should automatically believe in what they are seen doing on tv!
 
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Needto helped me via PM on a lot of things I could have made a thread about, back on another forum where my post count was under 100 and he had no affiliation with this place.
Since then I've tried a lot of NTBM products and I have yet to be let down by any of them.
My favorites right now are HCGenerate and N2Slin.

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Re: Question about Needtogetass?????

Intelligent conclusions also happen from getting other people's perspectives on an issue - I think Gary4949 asking the question in an open forum is totally fair. This forum is heavily weighted toward NTBM/MrSupps products and you yourself are afilliated with them which can be seen from reading this forum for a while.

I am a customer of Needto's products. Are they better or worse than other products...? You'll see a lot of off-the-charts AAA ratings here, but I'm still figuring that out for myself product-wise. One thing to be said though - the customer service is impressive. Also, I don't care what needto looks like in person, and i have read him dropping good knowledge in here.

In my closing statement, the Cinnamon Bun Whey + Skim Milk tastes like the best 800 cal milkshake ever invented, and it's nothing but nutritious. Top notch.

Salutations.

I will agree with that...as well as your closing statement, can't argue with you there :).
 
Re: Question about Needtogetass?????

One thing that needs to be realized here... When a person experiences a high level of success in a very competitive industry, there will ALWAYS be people that have something negative to say. That's the nature of the game... That's how business works... So if you have read on other forums that people are talking shit about ntbm products and about Nate himself, there's a good chance they are either a competitor themselves or working for one... Or else they are still living the 80's era of steroid cycling... Regardless, the reputation, the product, the results, they all speak for themselves... Nate is a person that is one in a BILLION... Yeah, billion... how many other people running companies like Nate take the amount of time out their lives to help so many different people in so many different ways??? I would love to see just ONE NAME... because you will be hard fucking pressed to find JUST ONE... What he does is more than admirable... Its simply amazing...

I can tell you firsthand, that these products are top notch... My ratio of supps is probably about 90% of his and there's good reason... I have been at this for A VERY LONG TIME and have used so many different products... I have never had so many things work so well for me and help me get to levels I never thought possible... Not only that, but the knowledge I have gained from him is priceless... You can learn something from every post that he makes... So anyone out there that is running their mouth, they need to take a long hard look in the mirror and see they will not ever be half the fucking man that Nate is... and they can kiss my ass too! I stick by my fucking friends and if I stand up for you, then there's a damn good reason why!

That's my brother D!
 
heres the deal....the supplement industry is competitive ...you will find trash talking to some degree between competitors on all the message boards on the net that are geared towards either BB or AAS specifically

I belong to 8 boards including a cpl of secret handshake ones to get in to (betcha guys didn't know I see half of you on other boards didcha) this is the only one I regularly frequent because the support here is amazing
I have never NOT seen some competitor bashing out there
if you ever have a problem with a product its addressed...you can't say that for a lot of companies out there
that said, what works for one person may not work out for another and sometimes thats where you see negativity...but from personal experiences and the experienced shared by others here...you'll always be taken care of with NTBM
also anyone that knows me knows I don't like cocksucking/asskissing to a sponsor and am not afraid to say I like one product better over another...but I won't bash something either because I know that it may be just me that it doesn't work out for...so there ya go
 
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The photo worried me about wasting money as well, it shouldn't, but it did

Like Steve said...this is judging a book by its cover. Do you judge a supplement by the label, or do you buy it and try it for yourself?

I have been in the iron game for over 20+ years, I have spent countless dollars on so many supplements over the years in my quest to build the physique of my dreams. I was a young man who was influential and looking for someone to take me under their wing and help show me the way. I would join a gym and look for the biggest, best built guys and watch what they would do, ask a ton of questions, and take their word for it because with physiques like they had they must have known what they were talking about, but would soon find out not so true.

Then I would seek the next bit of knowledge I could in the magazine isles...oh yeah, "take this supplement and look like this guy in 8 weeks!" Keep in mind this was back in 80's and 90's, and this industry wasn't as far as it is today, nor did we have the internet as huge as it is today. So in order to get knowledge we relied on magazines, other brothers in iron, and yes the few local supplement stores and the people who sat behind the counters being paid minimum wage or the owner who was tyring to make his business a success by selling his products. These folks would tell you just about anything for you to walk out of their store with supplements and once past that door...didn't really give a shit about you, well except for you to possibly return for more...which I did.

After training naturally for 10+ years, I thought I had learned enough to try my first cycle of PH's that I bought from a local supplement store. The guy who owned it was ripped, and built like a Pit Bull! I remember this so vividly, I don't want to put names of people or stores, but I thought this guy knew his shit. SO off I went with my PH and no idea how to really take it...just two bottles, PH and an Estro blocker.

Then after that it was onto AAS. Again, listening to someone who didn't give a rats ass about me, who played like they were a knowledgable friend of mine and so I listened and followed...again in my quest to build my dream physique. I had done many cycles and NO PCT! Didn't even know what it meant, because I was just listening to the bro's at the gym who I trained with.

This site, as well as few others, are an endless source of information, experience, and knowledge of people who are educated, who have learned from mistakes they have made along the way, and people like needto who wants to help people like me from making the same mistakes I made in the past. Needto didn't know me from a hole in the ground, but when I PM'd him about a problem I have and after many threads I read about him helping others with the same problem I had, I again was looking for that knowledgeable person to guide me...and he did! Not only did he help me with my problem, but educated me about PCT, supplements, and showed me that there are many...MANY...knowledgable brothers here willing to help and give back to this community, that I didn't have back then. It also made me realize that if this guy needto would just help me out of the blue, answering my PM's late at night after working all day, taking his time to educate me, then it is my turn to further educate myself and use my experiences to help kids who come onto these forums not make the same mistakes I did when I was their age...and start giving back to this community.

NTBM supplements work...period! There are so many testimonials on here and other sites attesting to this, as well as needto's extensive knowledge and experience in AAS, PCT, and supplementation that yes many are probably threatened by him, jealous, and are trying to undermine him to hurt his business. Again, I have tried just about everyone of NTBM supplements and their quality and effectiveness I can feel personally. I am now 41 years old, I am a father and husband, I have a career, and health and bodybuilding is my lifestyle! I am planning on competing here in the near future, and will utilize this site and the extensive knowledge of many that I have built relationships with...including needto...to reach that goal of mine. I will also continue to follow in the footsteps of these same brothers here and give back my real life experiences and what knowledge I have to the younger generations seeking the same guidance I did at their age so they don't make the same mistakes that could follow them for years!

There isn't enough I can say about my brother needto, but hopefully you can see we aren't just a bunch of drones kissing needto's ass here, we are genuine iron brothers who have built a community on EF to educate and help as many people as we can in their quest to build the best physiques they can in a healthy, safe, and intelligent way as this is our lifestyle.

I truly owe all of this to needto...he has made me realize how deep my passion is for this lifestyle of mine, as well as all of the relationships I have made along the way and you all know who you are...I love all my iron brothers here...as sappy as that sounds, it is true.

I'm done!!!
 
Take me for example man, I was JUST as skeptical about Beastdrol katanadrol and hcgenerate and NTKTS and unleashed/post cycle
...but yesterday was my last day of the whole cycle. With just decent dieting and lifting 5 days a week I can tell you that my maxxes and PRS went through the fucking roof man!
I gained 17lbs and actually lost BF! I'm telling you right now their products will be banned soon bc there is simply no way they can stay legal for long! There's just no way. Hcgenerate will give you boners FOR DAAAYYYSS bro! Even on cycle?! Lol I'm a nobody on here man I'm just a fan of him and his products and you have to believe they're as real as they get. Fuck d Bol man, fuck any oral out there! Beast is where it's at lol
Ohhhh and forma stanzas is also a lifesaver btw :)

Bro just because something gives you a boner doesn't mean it's starting your natural test back to working. If that were the case, we'd all be taking Viagra for pct.
 
I have been reading alot on this forum and have purchased alot of products from NTBM.com. I ventured out to other weightlifting sights and forums. They had at least 3 sights talk very poorly about Needtogetass products. They even posted pictures and I must say that he really didn't look very fit. I know alot of information on the net is false but given all the information is the products he supports legit or not???

Nathan isn't a competing bodybuilder bro. He is a guy who loves working out and has a devotion to researching ways in which to amplify those results.

If that isn't enough reason why he doesnt look like a pro bodybuilder, hes a father, he gets little sleep because he is his own customer service, and he enjoys the finer things in life much like myself (beer, good food, etc.).

You can't judge a persons devotion and knowledge based upon their looks. How many biochem scientists do you think look like Ronnie Coleman?

If you've ordered needto products, then you should know for yourself if they work. My experience has been that just like with any supplement, people who are lazy and want the supplement to do all the work for them are not satisfied because that isnt what his products are intended for. They're inteded for hard workers so that theyre hard work produces more visible results.

Bottom line is you need to decide for yourself. For me, I bulk up very fast on GEAR, I lean out really fast on NeedtoSlin, I get great energy and pumps from N2KTS, and I trust the supplements that dont have a visible effect or feeling.
 
Bro just because something gives you a boner doesn't mean it's starting your natural test back to working. If that were the case, we'd all be taking Viagra for pct.

True, but morning wood and frequent arousal IS one of the signs that could indicate that. What else is he supposed to say to support his belief that it works? "Dude HCGenerate totally made me feel like my test was back to normal"?
 
True, but morning wood and frequent arousal IS one of the signs that could indicate that. What else is he supposed to say to support his belief that it works? "Dude HCGenerate totally made me feel like my test was back to normal"?

Absolutely agree...HCGenerate works on this 42 year old bodybuilder fantastically! Unleashed makes my wife want to run from me! Gear is hands down my all time favorite as well as many others considering it is out pf stock all the damn time! The protein flavors are the best tasting, quality, and texture that I have had in the 20+ years I have been in this game! The supplements are superior to many which is why other companies and such who spend a ton of money on marketing and advertising to promote their products, while NTBM is through these forums and their customers promoting what works for them.

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no ones saying you have to buy the products, but dont expect people that like them (or some of them) to not want to back it up ya know?

people like what they like and hate what they hate..its the nature of the beast

eta; and another thing, on the issue of appearance how many pro sports coaches do you know that arent in great shape?? does this mean they know their sport less?
 
Need2 is the man.. I can't tell you how many times I have called him and asked him a question about his products or a question about other issues with like cycles or what not. He has always taken the time to help me out. I've talked to him for like 45 min once. Great guy! Wish I could meet him. I enjoy many of his products. One product I didn't like, that didn't do anything was -RS transaderm... We talked about it and he gave me an option of my money back or store credit. I took the credit because I was just going to use the money to buy shit from his website anyway. I've only seen one pic of him and I can't recall him. Whether he's a little out shape or really out shape really doesn't matter. Hes knowledgeable like no one else. He works 24/7, has a family, travels for business, juggles different companies, is making sure he is getting the best quality material for the products, is managing his new store, etc.. How the fuck can he have time to workout legit at the gym for an hour or two. I hope the orginal person will do his own research on the products and try them out for himself. As always bro, there will always be info from both sides in the net. It's up to YOU to make an intelligent decision on the subject. Best of luck! Need2- you my boy man.
 
Who gives a shit what anyone looks like. Stephen Hawking is frozen in a wheelchair yet holds the Isaac Newton Lucasian Chair of Mathematics at Cambridge University
 
NTBM products speak for themselves ....try them and decide for yourself - 100% money back gaurantee ( so dont be afraid to try them out ) . Folks on here love them because they are solid .

needto the man himself is a big guy ,he is not a bodybuilder - he is a power lifter and a strong bastard too !

Some sad little folks on other sites try to give him a hard time because they are bitter and hate to see a guy that had nothing ...become a sucessful business man, and as busy and time consuming as all that is - he still takes the time to help out EVERYBODY on this site that asks for help.
He gets thousands of PM's and no matter how long it takes he replies to ALL of them... so its not all about the money .
You can go to many other forums and see a shit ton of flaming and bashing noobs...that dont happen here coz he dont allow it, and the mods enforce it.

I wonder why Elitefitness is the BIGGEST anabolics discussion forum on the net ????

needtogetaas - thats why !

If this seems like a biased opinion its because he is a friend of mine ,but i challenge anybody to dispute the above.

Are you serious dude? This site is probably the toughest on noobs I've seen yet. Noobs get shredded on here on a daily basis. I'm convinced some guys take pride in belittling noobs on here
 
noobs in chat get chowed for sure...noobs everywhere else only get crap if they ignored the 8 million stickies
I'll agree there are some big egos around here but theyre no different than anywhere else
 
So Effin what if ef is full of ntbm supporters, needto is awesome an full of knowledge, as well as the mods and alot of the members here!!!! If I didn't happen to stumble upon this site,an with needto's help an members of this forum
Illd probably still be over weight, taking meds for Bp an high cholesterol an my diet would be shit! But since joining I've lost 27 lbs , changed my diet hit the gym regularly , just since march of this year, an yes I do buy ntbm products because they work at least for me they do. So please don't come on here bashing someone or there products until you have at least done some research or tried the products yourself!!!!!!!


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Are you serious dude? This site is probably the toughest on noobs I've seen yet. Noobs get shredded on here on a daily basis. I'm convinced some guys take pride in belittling noobs on here

I'm a noob to this forum and I did get advice I wasn't expecting or wasn't exactly what I want to hear, but it made me realize one thing, I had and stil have a lot to learn. I was polite and respectful in my post and respect was what I got back. It's obvious these guys are not trying to be assholes, they are only looking out for the uneducated and inexperienced guys out there who are about to start using chemicals that can have potentially extreme health hazards if they aren't used correctly. If anything, I would say their stern straight up approach is doing all of us noobs a favor...
 
Are you serious dude? This site is probably the toughest on noobs I've seen yet. Noobs get shredded on here on a daily basis. I'm convinced some guys take pride in belittling noobs on here

PM me links to who is attacking noobs. instead of posting this type of thing. I'm here everyday and i would see if it was a daily basis event.
 
I'm a noob to this forum and I did get advice I wasn't expecting or wasn't exactly what I want to hear, but it made me realize one thing, I had and stil have a lot to learn. I was polite and respectful in my post and respect was what I got back. It's obvious these guys are not trying to be assholes, they are only looking out for the uneducated and inexperienced guys out there who are about to start using chemicals that can have potentially extreme health hazards if they aren't used correctly. If anything, I would say their stern straight up approach is doing all of us noobs a favor...


^^^this is spot on
 
I'm a noob to this forum and I did get advice I wasn't expecting or wasn't exactly what I want to hear, but it made me realize one thing, I had and stil have a lot to learn. I was polite and respectful in my post and respect was what I got back. It's obvious these guys are not trying to be assholes, they are only looking out for the uneducated and inexperienced guys out there who are about to start using chemicals that can have potentially extreme health hazards if they aren't used correctly. If anything, I would say their stern straight up approach is doing all of us noobs a favor...

Nicely spoken my brother...you will be welcomed with that mindset, I too have much to learn, and learn everyday. I will though help others that I can with the knowledge and experience I currently have...shit I read many of needto's threads and so very articulate...neeeds grammar editing maybe a little...but extremely intelligent and always spot on information that is gold! I learn from him as well as a ton of other members who have been on here for years, I'm a noob to them lol!!!
 
Im a Newb.......sorda, been around here a while......... and a Dumb country boy on top of that. IDK Shit in perspective to whats available to learn on this website but I'm learning and have been for years. To keep it on a Dumb Country boy level here's 5 easy steps to help answer your question.........

#1) Start out by not giving a damn about what who said huh where?

#2) 100% Money Back Guarantee = Man up and buy some Damn N2BM Shit!!! If you dont know what to buy, ask Nate.

#3) When its on your doorstep 2 days later, open it and use it.......................................as directed. If you cant read, Call Nate.

#4) Come back here and Thank everyone for helping you see through the mud!

#5) Buy more N2BM shit!

Its that simple. Keep a good diet and work damn hard and his products will do Harry Potter on you.

Be Good,

EC
 
I too have read some of his post and agree they are very educated. I don't think for some one to be knowledgeable about bodybuilding that they have to be tanked. The owner of the gym I workout at is not a bodybuilder by any means. Also, the products that the swole guy behind the counter at gnc is trying to sell doesn't do shit for me. Try something out for yourself, everything works differently on different people. If it works for you then it works, if it doesn't learn from that and move on.
 
The times I've seen the new guys get bashed here were well deserved. Usually, it's..


First post.

Never read a single sticky.

They are under 21.

They have been working out for a solid 6 months and are ready to take it to the next level.

They are 150lbs, and have think their first cycle should be Tren Ace, Deca, and Winny.

And when all else fails, they curse the vets because they still believe what they know (or think they know) is right.
 
The times I've seen the new guys get bashed here were well deserved. Usually, it's..


First post.

Never read a single sticky.

They are under 21.

They have been working out for a solid 6 months and are ready to take it to the next level.

They are 150lbs, and have think their first cycle should be Tren Ace, Deca, and Winny.

And when all else fails, they curse the vets because they still believe what they know (or think they know) is right.

exactly and they cry about it thinking its bashing when its reality.

i still have no PM's btw from anyone showing where anyone was bashed on a daily basis, still waiting.
 
Noob here. Been reading up on this forum before joining. Probably the most helpful people going around on any type of forum. Great knowledge and If you follow the rules you don't get flamed.
Even then you only get flamed if you're an ass about things and to those who are willing to help.

As for need to, yet to try his products. Still doing a little more reading. I'm leaning towards the HCGenerate and unleashed/post cycle.
 
I'm a noob to this forum and I did get advice I wasn't expecting or wasn't exactly what I want to hear, but it made me realize one thing, I had and stil have a lot to learn. I was polite and respectful in my post and respect was what I got back. It's obvious these guys are not trying to be assholes, they are only looking out for the uneducated and inexperienced guys out there who are about to start using chemicals that can have potentially extreme health hazards if they aren't used correctly. If anything, I would say their stern straight up approach is doing all of us noobs a favor...

Amen to that brother


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How in the hell did i miss this. I will tell you one thing. Nathan is the most upstanding bro in this industry. My brothers dylan, steve and ma have already handled everything that needed to be said. Yes i am a Ntbm rep. I was a customer well before that. As steve said we all juice. I am 40 yrs old and the proof is in the pics. Period. Ntbm products work. Try em. If you are not 100% satisfied we will send you your money back. End of discussion.

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Look at it this way, did the product work??? hcgenerate?? did you try it?? do you believe that body builders that hold world titles really use cell tech??

carry on then
 
I am new to the forum and came from a couple years of hanging out on bodybuilding.com.

I was skeptical and still slightly am about many/ almost all members recommending N2 products. I was wondering myself if there all just getting a cut. Looking over the products they do seem to be abt pricey which is another red flag for me. I've tried dozens of products from all sorts of companies and haven't found anything truly amazing. Every company started at out as N2 did. And every forum has there preferred products. Over the years bodybuilding went through phases of pushing certain companies.

I have to say I ordered N2slin, N2amp and then placed another order for N2kts. The shipping is quick and free ecially for not having a warehouse close to me. Are the products amazing? Not sure yet.. but its worth at least a one month trial and it's not any worse then spending the money on another company.

Some members can be harsh but i see y.. you see dozens of members asking questions who clearly didn't spend any time looking on the site. I feel I learned a lot in the weeks of being on here.Most of the peoples questions that get "harsh" responses compare to "what's the best fat burner" (posted daily on bodybuilding).. it all gets annoying. If the search button was used I dont think members would be as harsh..

I also see the anabolic section with 1800+ viewers at all times of the day and its always the same few guys posting in it.. Makes you wonder tho, but thats for a different discussion.. This sites not any worse or better than any other on web and heck.. I know too many people that got lied to by there trainers at the gym to believe just one person anymore.. So take every recommendation with a grain of salt.. and since too many people on this site recommend N2 products.. might as well try them if you plan on staying because thats all people will recommend... You can try most of there products for $150.. seems like a decent gamble.
 
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do you think GNC's CEO looks like a bodybuilder? no he is probably a fat ugly middle aged white guy in a suit sitting on his yacht all day smoking a cigar
. the whole marketing division of gnc is made up of 25 year old 155 pound pimple faced kids out of college who know nothing about bodybuilding or cycling. NTBM is HARDCORE products for hardcore guys who JUICE. the reps i would say 90% of us juice and have a lot of experience, so you can ask us questions and we can actually answer.. good luck getting that from GNC reps! and it should tell you something that we stick with NTBM as reps and love the products.. i could rep for ANYONE i want to. but i CHOOSE to rep for NTBM cause of the products :)

needto is a normal guy like you and me.. so you can buy from the rich CEO who only cares about getting a bigger yacht and will sell you inferior products or you can buy from a normal guy who will actually help you use the product the best way and help set up your cycle etc. your decision.

on the flipside would you eat mcdonalds hamburgers just cause Michael Jordan is shown on a commercial eating them? i mean he is considered one of the best players in NBA history so the fact he eats mcdonalds burgers must mean if i eat them i will turn into him right? mcdonalds sponsors the entire US olympic team. we are the only country in the world that DOES NOT sponsor our own athletes.. corporations do.. hence they will endorse pepsi, coca cola, mcdonalds etc. just cause you see commercials with them drinking and eating junk doesn't mean that if you copy them you will turn into them nor should you listen. so just cause someone looks the part doesn't mean you should automatically believe in what they are seen doing on tv!
CEO of GNC
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Golds Gym CEO
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24 Hour Fitness CEO
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Steve has a very great point in his post. Judging someone by their looks and how they run companies is absurd.
Hopefully these pictures put this in perspective.
 
Needto is a good dude. He has sent me free stuff and has given me crazy discounts on his "superior" products. He also has had my back on the forum quite a few times... He is an all-around stand-up guy. Fuck all the haters!!!
 
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do you think GNC's CEO looks like a bodybuilder? no he is probably a fat ugly middle aged white guy in a suit sitting on his yacht all day smoking a cigar. the whole marketing division of gnc is made up of 25 year old 155 pound pimple faced kids out of college who know nothing about bodybuilding or cycling. NTBM is HARDCORE products for hardcore guys who JUICE. the reps i would say 90% of us juice and have a lot of experience, so you can ask us questions and we can actually answer.. good luck getting that from GNC reps! and it should tell you something that we stick with NTBM as reps and love the products.. i could rep for ANYONE i want to. but i CHOOSE to rep for NTBM cause of the products :)

needto is a normal guy like you and me.. so you can buy from the rich CEO who only cares about getting a bigger yacht and will sell you inferior products or you can buy from a normal guy who will actually help you use the product the best way and help set up your cycle etc. your decision.

on the flipside would you eat mcdonalds hamburgers just cause Michael Jordan is shown on a commercial eating them? i mean he is considered one of the best players in NBA history so the fact he eats mcdonalds burgers must mean if i eat them i will turn into him right? mcdonalds sponsors the entire US olympic team. we are the only country in the world that DOES NOT sponsor our own athletes.. corporations do.. hence they will endorse pepsi, coca cola, mcdonalds etc. just cause you see commercials with them drinking and eating junk doesn't mean that if you copy them you will turn into them nor should you listen. so just cause someone looks the part doesn't mean you should automatically believe in what they are seen doing on tv!
CEO of GNC
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Golds Gym CEO
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Steve has a very great point in his post. Judging someone by their looks and how they run companies is absurd.
Hopefully these pictures put this in perspective.

Exactly!

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Re: Question about Needtogetass?????

CEO of GNC
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Steve has a very great point in his post. Judging someone by their looks and how they run companies is absurd.
Hopefully these pictures put this in perspective.

wow good find. and to top it off i bet none of those guys know shit about working out, diet, or AAS. needto would absolutely whore them in a debate as would 95% of guys on EF.
 
Needto is the man. He's honest and very hard working. He's a force on these boards for that reason. If he wasn't, trust me, these boards would tear him apart. Meaning there are a lot of people who go out of there way for their own agendas. Find out the truth, just to be negative, etc. and if someone was to sell products that don't work, they would be known and made sure everyone knew.

But NEEDTO is a great man with a heart of gold. He created these products because he wanted to bring people products that work. He's not a CEO that thinks of money, he's basically one of us. So he created N2BM to make sure people spent their hard working money on products that work.

The big corps just spend some money on products and the rest to make these BS products seem good by marketing. If they have 5$ million 1 in on the product 4$ is on the marketing of the garbage product. But with NEEDTO we are his consumers and we are also the marketing.

But to sum it up, the products speak for themselves and they are great!
 
Hey guys.. It seems I got bombed for my post (a few posts up). Apparently I dont think highly of the site..

Does my comment come across like that? I try hard to be a productive member of the forum and in no way meant to bash N2 or the site..

I am currently trying 3 of N2's products and think this site has taught me a lot in only a fwe short weeks.
 
Hey guys.. It seems I got bombed for my post (a few posts up). Apparently I dont think highly of the site..

Does my comment come across like that? I try hard to be a productive member of the forum and in no way meant to bash N2 or the site..

I am currently trying 3 of N2's products and think this site has taught me a lot in only a fwe short weeks.


I don't think anyone is bashing you bro, only giving you the answers to the question you asked and giving reason behind their answers.
 
Where could you search for an unbiased reply?

You will find both positive and some neg reviews on the following sites .

Isteroids
steroid dot com
BB.com

anabolicminds
rxmuscle
mind&muscle
leanbulk
bodybuildingdungeon
and countless others.


1st Cycle. Beastdrol - Page 3
AnabolicMinds.com Forum
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/special-thanks-needto-again-again-733825.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/calling-out-needtogetaas-733165.html
explanation of how it works from me ^^^

AnabolicMinds.com Forum
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...anzol-designed-needtogetaas-works-715795.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/forma-stanzol-review-741171.html
review ^^

by the end of this thread froma-stanzol comes out ahead ans the winner
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And I can find tens of thousands more positive comments about both products I sell or formulated and my self on amost every site out there. I can also find Negative reviews about myself on a lot of forums too........... One thing you will not see a lot of is negative reviews of any products I have a hand in on any forum unless its from some one who hates me for what ever reason and has never even used my products....



At the end of the day you your self have to make the choice as to what kind of a person you feel I am. This choice should be made on how "I treat you" and through your own personal experience with me.

Have I helped you? Have a helped a friend of yours? Would I? Do I refund anyone who I think may not have gotten anything from my productds??

https://www.facebook.com/Needtobuilldmuscle.net

This is my face book page and anyone who knows me will tell you I hide nothing from no one. In fact 99% of the people talking shit would not even dare live as open a life as I do online in this industry... My friends know me, the people I help know me... Do you know anything about the people talking shit about me???

Anyway I am here all the time for all of you take it or leave it it does not stop me from helping the next guy. :rose::rose:
 
I don't think anyone is bashing you bro, only giving you the answers to the question you asked and giving reason behind their answers.

No what i mean was I got bombed for my opinion of the site.. and dont feel my opinion was bad.. let along of being bombed by a mod..
 
don't worry about the bombing too much man...its a karma thing more than anything

I dont remember what your un-edited post looks like but just know tht when you edit the mods still know what was originally up
 
The times I've seen the new guys get bashed here were well deserved. Usually, it's..


First post.

Never read a single sticky.

They are under 21.

They have been working out for a solid 6 months and are ready to take it to the next level.

They are 150lbs, and have think their first cycle should be Tren Ace, Deca, and Winny.

And when all else fails, they curse the vets because they still believe what they know (or think they know) is right.

lol so true.....

Even then, I haven't seen what I would call "bashing" directed at these types....

They need to be sternly talked at so that they know that theyre being stupid....

Bashing: "LULZ EVRYONE LOOK AT THIS N00B HE IS SO DUMB SOMEONE BAN HIM FROM THE BOARD"

Not Bashing: "Look, kid, you're being stupid. You haven't trained long enough, you didn't give us your information, youre 16 years old, and your Deca, Tren, Winny, Var, Prop cycle for 25 weeks is a terrible idea. Go do your research."
 
Are you serious dude? This site is probably the toughest on noobs I've seen yet. Noobs get shredded on here on a daily basis. I'm convinced some guys take pride in belittling noobs on here

thats fuckin bullshit ! we do our best to steer noobs in the right direction...and are genuine in looking out for them.
if you think otherwise maybe you should find another board to hang out on.
there are plenty of them that will tell 17 yo kids to jump on test, tren ,deca ..the whole fuckin 9 yards.
so if thats what you prefer to see...pack your bag and off you go .
 
thats fuckin bullshit ! we do our best to steer noobs in the right direction...and are genuine in looking out for them.
if you think otherwise maybe you should find another board to hang out on.
there are plenty of them that will tell 17 yo kids to jump on test, tren ,deca ..the whole fuckin 9 yards.
so if thats what you prefer to see...pack your bag and off you go .

First off Columbo, all your doing is reinforcing a lot of people's views. Look at the post right above this one. You tell me to leave the site because of my opinion?? Where did I say once I prefer people giving 17 yr olds advice? I get told to pack my bags and go because of how I interpret this site?? What is this site? The China of the forums? Speak out against the mighty condescending mods and get banned?? Have an opinion that differs from what the mods preach and get banned?

Go ahead dock me points, ban me do whatever you guys gotta do to keep the sheep in line here but you'd think with this being 2012 you'd be able to have an opinion.

This isn't an attack it's a defensive response from being told to back my bags and go from a MOD.

And to all the condescending asshole mods maybe take a page from Dylangemelli's book and be patient and nice like he is.
 
PM me links to who is attacking noobs. instead of posting this type of thing. I'm here everyday and i would see if it was a daily basis event.

Steve, I'm not the type of person to rat people out behind their backs with a secret PM. It happens daily believe me. Its impossible for you to read every post everyday so you couldn't see it happen 100% of the time.
 
Just watch everyone my post will be deleted soon and I will get a ban.
Make sure you sheep stay in the herd or you'll be thrown to the wolves like I will be within the hour.
Take care everyone and remember DO NOT HAVE AN OPINION and CONFORM TO THE EF SOCIETY
 
I think its proof of his character and caring for his customers by giving us the ability to call him pretty much directly. What other CEO can a does that does that?

If the haters and no believers dont like it here why stay? Just saying.
 
I think its proof of his character and caring for his customers by giving us the ability to call him pretty much directly. What other CEO can a does that does that?

If the haters and no believers dont like it here why stay? Just saying.

I'm not a hater and I buy a shit load of Need2 products. My argument was about the treatment of noobs on here. That's all. I believe in N2's products although at first I was skeptical.
 
I'm not a hater and I buy a shit load of Need2 products. My argument was about the treatment of noobs on here. That's all. I believe in N2's products although at first I was skeptical.

Come on JoJo, I have just been appointed as a MOD, and to be honest I treat people like I want to be treated...respectfully, unless.of course I am disrespected. As Steve said let the Mods know about these issues so they can be handled.

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Columbo is telling it how it is. He's just passionate imo. JoJo I dont know where you come up with the treatment of noobs on here but the advice is top notch and compared to other forums this is a dream. Ef is a dream because moderators do their jobs..... If you think they are harsh well thats your opinion and i'm certain its not how the large majority here feel.
 
They even posted pictures and I must say that he really didn't look very fit.

Since when do you need to look fit to run a fitness business? Truth be told his biz and this forum are a lot or work and making sacrifices for your biz can affect your gym time and lifestyle.

What about this guy? Does he look very fit?

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The guy has a 212.5 kg snatch and a 260kg clean and jerk.

Or how about Vasily?
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Over 80 world records and a career best clean and jerk of 256.0 kg (564 lbs) which is more than I would bet most people here can even deadlift.

There are plenty of world class athletes that dont look fit.
 
Take me for example man, I was JUST as skeptical about Beastdrol katanadrol and hcgenerate and NTKTS and unleashed/post cycle
...but yesterday was my last day of the whole cycle. With just decent dieting and lifting 5 days a week I can tell you that my maxxes and PRS went through the fucking roof man!
I gained 17lbs and actually lost BF! I'm telling you right now their products will be banned soon bc there is simply no way they can stay legal for long! There's just no way. Hcgenerate will give you boners FOR DAAAYYYSS bro! Even on cycle?! Lol I'm a nobody on here man I'm just a fan of him and his products and you have to believe they're as real as they get. Fuck d Bol man, fuck any oral out there! Beast is where it's at lol
Ohhhh and forma stanzas is also a lifesaver btw :)

Well that doesn't count, only the hcgenerate and n2kts are from need2.

Post cycle and unleashed are from the protein factory, beast katana and forma are from mrsupps in okc.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
Come on JoJo, I have just been appointed as a MOD, and to be honest I treat people like I want to be treated...respectfully, unless.of course I am disrespected. As Steve said let the Mods know about these issues so they can be handled.

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I am not saying all the mods are like this Muscleaddiction, just a few. But please don't tell me a noob on here who asks a silly question or says something outta line doesn't get shit on either
 
JoJo you and I have talked before bro. You know I am not like that for sure. As stated if you see some crap going on like that report it or my pm box is always open bro.
 
I am not saying all the mods are like this Muscleaddiction, just a few. But please don't tell me a noob on here who asks a silly question or says something outta line doesn't get shit on either

The noobs that post a thread, who are 21-25, who are asking advice about a cycle they have laid out as their first cycle (test, tren, deca, d-bol...you get my point) and get some feedback such as "you are too young, rethink what you are doing", and they reply "thanks for your input but I'm going to do this cycle anyway" are the ones who do get spanked per say. Does that make sense to you? Why post a thread asking feedback on a cycle they claim they did research on but in their PCT they have Nolva for a Deca cycle, or 4 compounds for their first cycle and not be open to advice from extensively knowledgable bros here...some that are Mods...and they get lectured on etiquette and respect for the forum, I don't consider that bashing at all bro...I call it getting schooled. Would you agree?

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JoJo I see where you are coming from and I'm not trying to argue with you but only trying to help you see the other side of things. The only time I have seen a noob get bashed is when they ask for advice, get the answers they didn't want to hear like train for another year then maybe think of juice or something like that, then they come back with a hard head response like well why can't I do it now. Imagine trying to help hundreds of people the best you could everyday and then when someone hears something that wasn't what they were looking for the catch an attitude or talk back or dont want to accept it. The only time I believe anyone gets bashed is when they supposedly 'want' advice when really all they are looking for is a quick fix and spoon fed set up. Besides that, I'm pretty sure you can ask about anything you want and follow the rules and accept the answers your are given and you shouldn't have a problem with any of these bros
 
The noobs that post a thread, who are 21-25, who are asking advice about a cycle they have laid out as their first cycle (test, tren, deca, d-bol...you get my point) and get some feedback such as "you are too young, rethink what you are doing", and they reply "thanks for your input but I'm going to do this cycle anyway" are the ones who do get spanked per say. Does that make sense to you? Why post a thread asking feedback on a cycle they claim they did research on but in their PCT they have Nolva for a Deca cycle, or 4 compounds for their first cycle and not be open to advice from extensively knowledgable bros here...some that are Mods...and they get lectured on etiquette and respect for the forum, I don't consider that bashing at all bro...I call it getting schooled. Would you agree?

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I agree totally, and I respect a lot of good bro's and mods on here too. I really do enjoy reading and researching on here and my initial post on this matter didn't say all mods or all people but being a noob on here is tough. Also the thing that bugs me the most on here is if you have a negative OPINION about the site or N2's products you get a ban or comment erased. I made a comment how I thought injecting B12 is useless and with all the products that are pushed on this site that it was the one of themore useless ones. I got a ban for that and comment deleted.

You guys say your all about helping people but I try and save people their hard earned money by telling them not to waste it on B12 and I get a fucking ban? Comment erased?? What the hell does that say about this site? It says my opinion is worthless and if I don't want a ban then shut my mouth and don't say anything bad about products.
 
^^^ I was the one who banned you and you definately broke the rule of attacking a sponsor. you said this

"I can't believe you needed to write a novel to say the protein is good.

Any chance I can scrape up some extra money plugging products on here too?"

first off the guy was thrilled with his WTBM he got. PB crunch never stays in stock more than a couple days for a reason.. cause its the best PERIOD. secondly no one on here gets paid to plug products. i'm not afraid to call someones ass out on the open forums and embarass them WHEN they attack the mod team or myself and act like they are innocent. you AREN'T!!

and also I don't appreciate you making alters and causing more trouble and posting on my profile etc. you think we can't see IP addresses and know its you?

now we can do 1 of 2 things.. we can stop being a little bitch and crying or we can move on and follow the rules. its up to you. if you don't like the way the site is run then go find another site!! its that simple.
 
^^^ I was the one who banned you and you definately broke the rule of attacking a sponsor.

and also I don't appreciate you making alters and causing more trouble and posting on my profile etc. you think we can't see IP addresses and know its you?

now we can do 1 of 2 things.. we can stop being a little bitch and crying or we can move on and follow the rules. its up to you.

So Vitamin B12 sponsors the site Steve? How about Niacin? Riboflavin? If I say Folic Acid sucks bag you gonna ban me again?
You call me a lil bitch and can get away with it but if I for EXAMPLE ONLY HERE call you a condescending egotistical lil bitch I get banned? Who holds you accountable for your unkind words?
 
^^^ i have no idea what you are yapping about.. i never banned you for B12. i banned you for what i wrote above. whoever was the particular mod who banned you for that you need to talk to or talk to an admin about it.

spare me this i'm innocent routine. the fact that you fooled other guys on here for feeling sorry for you is hilarious. you've been here 2 months, never tried any NTBM products, so you don't know shit enough to form an opinion. read the rules.. you bash a sponsor you get banned. its a simple rule.

if you do not like a product then SEND IT BACK, get your money back. what is the big deal?

also if you weren't happy with the product than talk to a rep about it, there are ways to use the products to best have them work. in the end there are some guys who for whatever reason will never be happy. NTBM has a 99% retention mark. meaning 99% of guys who buy products from NTBM come back for more.
 
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Need to has gone WAY out his way to answer any and all on my stupid question and most of them had nothing to do with his products or sway my into his products.....he's done more for me than any other person in help educate me.
 
Well that doesn't count, only the hcgenerate and n2kts are from need2.

Post cycle and unleashed are from the protein factory, beast katana and forma are from mrsupps in okc.


Hunter Of Gunmen

Problem is I designed them all except post cycle and unleashed which I am now the exclusive seller of thank you very much :verygood::verygood:
 
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