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Pulled over. Take this advice.

Bigsatan13

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:devil:
I got pulled over the other day for driving a few miles over the speed limit.:rolleyes: The cop says, "do you have any drugs or weapons on you?" I ask him if he asks everyone he pulls over that question or just hairy bikers. He does not find this amusing but I don't care, I'm still being civilized. He says,"If you have anything on you just give it to me now and I'll forget about it." I tell him if he has some tickets to issue go right ahead and I'd see him in court. Here in lies the moral to the thread, do not think that under any circumstances that you are helping yourself by answering uneccesary questions or turning over illegal contraband or consenting to a search. You are fucking yourself. Don't believe me ask any lawyer or anyone doing a short bid for being so helpful.
 
Uhh... yeah... no shit. Being "helpful" to the police is a NO win situation for you... it won't get you a lighter sentence... and will only fuck you in the end... that is, for a routine traffic stop... I can't make that blanket statement For ALL situations... although, I'd always keep my mouth shut! :)

C-ditty
 
Citruscide said:
Uhh... yeah... no shit. Being "helpful" to the police is a NO win situation for you... it won't get you a lighter sentence... and will only fuck you in the end... that is, for a routine traffic stop... I can't make that blanket statement For ALL situations... although, I'd always keep my mouth shut! :)

C-ditty

:devil: That's the point I'm making. But no matter what, you always see some stupid mother fucker trying to talk his way out of it.
 
Jetisin said:
Can't you just say "no" when when they ask you if you have any drugs or weapons?

Yes you can, however if you say no and you posses drugs, and during a search(ie. they get a dog to turn on) they find them then you get an extra charge of hindering apprehension or providing false information to a LEO. Say nothing.
 
man aint that the truth... even if you think the cop has you dead to rights... even if you are holding a 5g crack rock and an ak47... if he asks you if they are yours SAY NO. NEVER ADMIT ANYTHING.

I was busted once... i thought i was fucked so i admitted everything. Then, there whole goddamn case fell apart EXCEPT for my confession. It took another year to get the case dropped just because of that...
 
Good advice.

Also when a cop pulls you over pull far on the right sid of the road like in the grass so he won't be out in the street. And then when he comes up ask him if you are pulled over enough to get him out of the way of traffic. Be nice and curteous and ask for a warning and I bet you get one.
 
Originally posted by curling
Also when a cop pulls you over pull far on the right sid of the road like in the grass so he won't be out in the street.

And maybe you will get a good laugh when his cruiser gets stuck..
I had my 4x4 pulled over and I purposly chose a suger sand spot to pull into.
The Cop was not smart enough to leave a wheel on the pavement and
ended up sinking in as I pulled away after the ticket.
 
Bigsatan13 said:


Yes you can, however if you say no and you posses drugs, and during a search(ie. they get a dog to turn on) they find them then you get an extra charge of hindering apprehension or providing false information to a LEO. Say nothing.

What if you really don't have drugs? Can you say no then or do you still get in trouble?

-Warik
















hehe
 
curling said:
Good advice.

Also when a cop pulls you over pull far on the right sid of the road like in the grass so he won't be out in the street. And then when he comes up ask him if you are pulled over enough to get him out of the way of traffic. Be nice and curteous and ask for a warning and I bet you get one.

And then when he thinks you're a nice guy and he leasts expects it you pull him into your car, beat him up, steal his uniform and then drive off in his police car like nothing ever happened and BAM you're off the hook!

-Warik
 
Warik said:


And then when he thinks you're a nice guy and he leasts expects it you pull him into your car, beat him up, steal his uniform and then drive off in his police car like nothing ever happened and BAM you're off the hook!

-Warik

This is a dude that has played GTA Vice City a wee bit too much. :D
 
Bigsatan13 said:


Yes you can, however if you say no and you posses drugs, and during a search(ie. they get a dog to turn on) they find them then you get an extra charge of hindering apprehension or providing false information to a LEO. Say nothing.

gotta disagree Bigsatan...

generally hindering only applies to
the apprehension of another person...

avoiding self incrimination is protected
by the fifth amendment...

i have never seen or heard of what you
describe...

basically in respect to yourself, you have no
duty to provide truthful info to a LEO...

false info can only be used to establish
p/c for warrant if the officer can prove
you are lying and has other factors
that go beyond reasonable suspicion...
 
curling said:
Good advice.

Also when a cop pulls you over pull far on the right sid of the road like in the grass so he won't be out in the street. And then when he comes up ask him if you are pulled over enough to get him out of the way of traffic. Be nice and curteous and ask for a warning and I bet you get one.

To follow up on your advice on how to make a police officer comfortable with you, always keep your hands on the steering wheel visible all the time. This won't cause the police officer to make sure you aren't carrying any type of weapon in the car. If you're pulled over during evening time, turn your indoor car light on so he can see what's in the car and without having to worry about you packing heat. Just few tips for possibility of getting out of a ticket.
 
curling said:


This is a dude that has played GTA Vice City a wee bit too much. :D

Actually I've been wanting to play that game but it doesn't exist for PC and I don't have a PS2. Talk about a marketing disaster.

-Warik
 
I have developed a powerful hatred for police. I have been fucked over by police 5 times real bigtime in my life. Each time was for something ridiculous. I have had 3 of the officers fired bc my godfather was NY state senator for years. I try to tell these guys (police), I am the least of your worries. They don't listen. Here's an example;

Last Saturday (sunday basically) after closing the bar. It's 5 am, I get pulled over on Sunrise Hgwy in Long Island. Cop tells me to put my hands on the wheel. I do it. Get over to me puts his hands inside my veihicle and start looking around. @ this point I tell him, "officer this is completely unecessary. I am the least of your worries. Please provide me with a reason for you doing this to me". I really do speak like this btw. He looks at me and tells me, "liscence, registration and insurance card". When he says this he is flaring his hand in my face, trying to taunt me into fighting him. I shit you not. I tell him, "1, heres my liscence. 2 my registration is on the front windshield. 3 my insurance cards are at home bc I just switched companies from allstate to gmac." He looks at me and laughs, then struts back to his car. I sat there for 35-40 minutes. He finally gets out and walks up to my car. This is what he says, "I pulled you over bc you look suspicious. This doesn't even look like you in your liscence. Do you have anything else?" I said yes I do but I will not show you anything. You could have asked me this 40 minutes ago. Can I have your badge # please." Why do you need that punk, he says?" I said, bc I am going to have your ass fired. I would love to step out of this car and do what I know is right but there is more than one way to skin a cat." He looked at me for about a minute @ that point. Dead stare. He says, I'll do you a favor, get home tonight and I don't want to see you again." I said, I don't want any favors from you, just your badge #." He wouldn't give me the # and I couldn't see it bc the whole time this convo was taking place his mag-lite was right in my face. All of a sudden he gets a call on his radio and says, "it's your lucky day you punk bastard." He takes my info and flings it into my face, no shit. Runs into his car and peels out. I sat there thinking, wow, an hour of my life has just been wasted. It is 6 am and I am fired up. How am I going to sleep?
 
Warik said:


Actually I've been wanting to play that game but it doesn't exist for PC and I don't have a PS2. Talk about a marketing disaster.

-Warik


Talk about being cheap. Man, they(ps2) are only 199 bucks that's cheaper than an Anavar cycle. plus you will get to play it on a bigger screen.
 
Gotta' love our legal system. You get pulled over for speeding and get the shake-down for drugs.

I thought this shit only happened to black people.

:p
 
Big Johnson said:
Gotta' love our legal system. You get pulled over for speeding and get the shake-down for drugs.

I thought this shit only happened to black people.

:p

Oh no. There the ones, unfortunately who get videotaped. It happens to all of us.
 
Pretty wild story polish. Sounds like you handled yourself correctly. I would love to tell a cop, "hey, I am a taxpayor so really you work for me and hey guess what, YOU"RE FIRED!!! "D
 
curling said:



Talk about being cheap. Man, they(ps2) are only 199 bucks that's cheaper than an Anavar cycle. plus you will get to play it on a bigger screen.

Cheap? I'm not going to spend $199 + $50 to play one overpriced game. Release it to PC and they'll have a much larger audience. Everyone in the country has a computer except those poor folks in the ghetto who are always on the news complaining about how the Internet is racist because they can't afford $500 for a computer. You can't say the same about a PS2.

Releasing a game for console system and not for computer = stupid.

-Warik
 
Don't worry supernav. I think we have a "cops are almighty and can do no wrong" member here. I recall him making his appearance to defend the cop who gave me a $323 school zone speeding ticket even though I wasn't in the school zone and was not exceeding the speed limit.

Now where is he....?

-Warik
 
That reminds me of the seatbelt ticket I got from a highway patrol while I was wearing my seatbelt. He said he saw me put it on when he went to pull me over. Bullshit.

I called his supervisor and told him that, due to the incredible observational skills of this particular officer, I was much more confident now in the ability of the Cali HP to handle more serious legal matters.

Of course, I didn't get anywhere with it and just paid the thirty-five bucks. But, I still feel as though that HP stole $35 bucks from me.

Discussing this kind of shit really pisses me off.
 
Warik, just get the PS2.

A computer is a $1000 gaming machine.. for the price of a good video card you can have a PS2 and your favorite game.

The gaming consoles keep a decent value too, unlike your computer and its software. When you get tired of the PS2 you can sell it and its games for more then 50% of what you spent on it.

I have a computer, I play computer games, but buying my XBOX was nothing compared to the $2000+ I spent putting my computer together (which I have to upgrade every year or so).

Brian
 
Lestat said:
Warik, just get the PS2.

A computer is a $1000 gaming machine.. for the price of a good video card you can have a PS2 and your favorite game.

The gaming consoles keep a decent value too, unlike your computer and its software. When you get tired of the PS2 you can sell it and its games for more then 50% of what you spent on it.

I have a computer, I play computer games, but buying my XBOX was nothing compared to the $2000+ I spent putting my computer together (which I have to upgrade every year or so).

Brian

A computer is a $1,000 MACHINE which has gaming applications. I use my computer more for research, work, etc... than I do for gaming. A PS2 however is strictly a gaming machine.

It's a big difference... besides, the amount of time I'd be able to spend playing wouldn't be worth the $250. A $30 expense for the computer would be worth it though.

-Warik
 
Warik said:


A computer is a $1,000 MACHINE which has gaming applications. I use my computer more for research, work, etc... than I do for gaming. A PS2 however is strictly a gaming machine.

It's a big difference... besides, the amount of time I'd be able to spend playing wouldn't be worth the $250. A $30 expense for the computer would be worth it though.

-Warik

I thought it was a $1000 porn mag.
 
I fucking hate cops too. They are no more than tax collectors with a gun. Most are little pricks that got beat up in high school and want to rule someone. Cops have quotas and if they haven't got theirs by the end of the month, they will pull people over for no reason.
 
The first thing you do when the cop pulls you over...

Finish your beer...

B True
 
Warik:

I to use my computer for MUCH more then gaming. I use it for work, for porn, for email, for information, to access Elite.

A computer is worth it.

But to turn a computer in a killer gaming machine you have to spend some cash on a decent video card.. and then the games. I am not saying not to do that, but the price of the XBOX or PS2 is paltry in comparison.

If I didn't play games on my computer I wouldn't even need HALF the ram I have.. I wouldn't need a 2.0 ghz processor.. I wouldn't need a 200+ dollar video card.. I wouldn't have gone with the high end 19" monitor.. etc.

To pay for my Xbox i'll just put off my computer upgrade for 6 months.

and yes, you can use your PS2 or XBOX as your DVD player!
 
I've had my fair share of bad experiences with the law,but I have to say I've been let go or given a warning about half the time..of particular note though is one night back when I was in my 20s I was out drinking with about 4 girls..we left a bar about 3 AM and were walking along the streets in Birmingham..when out of an alley 4 young blacks assualted as and started grabbing purses and necklaces etc,etc..I wasn't attacked,but the girls were freaking and 2 of the bloods had guns..and they were pointing them at me as I was the obvious target to mount any type of interception..one of the girls wouldn't give up her purse and she was involved was tug of war with the punk..I was screaming to Jill to give up the purse as I had barrells pointed at me..shit was starting to escalate when a brown plain Ford Taurus pulled up to the curb quickly and a cop jumped out..a single cop and those 4 boyz split pronto
 
Lestat said:
Warik:

I to use my computer for MUCH more then gaming. I use it for work, for porn, for email, for information, to access Elite.

A computer is worth it.

But to turn a computer in a killer gaming machine you have to spend some cash on a decent video card.. and then the games. I am not saying not to do that, but the price of the XBOX or PS2 is paltry in comparison.

If I didn't play games on my computer I wouldn't even need HALF the ram I have.. I wouldn't need a 2.0 ghz processor.. I wouldn't need a 200+ dollar video card.. I wouldn't have gone with the high end 19" monitor.. etc.

To pay for my Xbox i'll just put off my computer upgrade for 6 months.

and yes, you can use your PS2 or XBOX as your DVD player!

You are close to convincing me to buy a PS2. Now just give me a list of games I might enjoy playing and we'll be in business. (seriously - all I've seen around are sports games... aside from a good, realistic golf game, I have no interest in sports games)

-Warik
 
supernav, if your story is true, the cop should be fired regardless of your granddad. It is, however, very common for cops to ask if you have any weapons of narcotics with you. BS is right. You don't have to give consent nor do you have to answer questions. You attitude and demeanor, however, can be used to develop probable cause to search without your consent. If they have a dog present and simultaneously perform a free air search, your fucked.

Cops are like most people. They respond to people based on how they are treated. Yes, some of them are naturally ass holes just like some body builders, priests, salesmen, or any other profession. Sometimes they are just having a shitty day. Imagine having to put up some of the pricks on this board.

I was a cop. I served as a patrol officer, narcotics agent and a homicide detective. Now I'm a prosecutor. I am currently prosecuting two State Highway Patrol Troopers for falsifying reports. I have no tolerance for bad cops. I have removed a Chief of Police and a County Sheriff from office. I have no tolerance for dope dealers or other criminals and take great joy in locking all of them up and have no problem with cops asking the questions they need to to catch the shit bags. Oh, and many, if not most, of these dip shits give consent to search. I guess what they say that shit does to your brain is be right.

hasta

litig8r
 
Just out of curiosity, I live in Alabama and have a concealed weapons permit, and at all times have a .45 handgun in my truck. I have been told by some that you are required to disclose this information to an officer when pulled over and I've been told you didn't have to.. Now I have never when pulled over been asked if I had any weapons in my vehicle either though... Now the confusing thing to me is I've asked a couple different cops I know and got and answers in each direction..

So "Legally" what are you supposed to do in this situation when pulled over whether asked or not asked about weapons?
 
Concealed carry laws vary from State to State. In Texas, if you are stopped, you are to present your Concealed Carry License with your DL. Additionaly, when the cop runs your DL it will indicate you have a CCL. If you fail to notify an officer that you have a CCL, you may be issued a citation and loose the CCL.

hasta

litig8r
 
Oh ok...Thanks litig8r.. I've had my license ran probably 3 times since having the permit.. And never had the officer mention it. I had asked the clerk who issued me the permit about it when i received it, and she said only if i was asked did i have to present it.. But honestly she didn't seem terribly compitent.
 
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