Proviron does not hinder hpta recovery

[Juice Authority]

I've been gathering intel from various studies and abstracts on proviron to determine if it is in fact suppressive to hpta recovery. I finally found some relevant data that clearly shows that Proviron taken at low dosages (25-50mg's) ed does not effect plasma FSH, LH and testosterone levels...So, one can conclude from the followng study that Proviron, if taken post-cycle to prevent estrogen rebound should not hinder recovery!

Int Urol Nephrol. 1978;10(3):251-6. Related Articles, Links


Mesterolone treatment of patients with pathospermia.

Szollosi J, Falkay GY, Sas M.

The response to Mesterolone, in doses of 25 mg/day, was examined in 42 pathospermic patients. Treatment lasted for 100 days. The pronounced response to the Mesterolone treatment was observed in hypozoo- and oligozoospermia with low initial fructose content in the ejaculate. Fructose content attained its normal range after the treatment. During the therapeutic period 11 wives became pregnant. The authors conclude that Mesterolone does not influence plasma FSH, LH and testosterone levels, it has only peripheral effects.

PMID: 689818 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[Bad Black]

so using it at say 25mg would free up bound test via the SHBG effect, and work as a mild anti-E while being non-suppressive....correct? kind of all the good with no bads. i usually use it during "cruise" sessions inbetween big cycles as opposed to "off-cycle". with anavar and the like. but good info for guys who actually go off.

 

[Juice Authority]

so using it at say 25mg would free up bound test via the SHBG effect, and work as a mild anti-E while being non-suppressive....correct? kind of all the good with no bads. i usually use it during "cruise" sessions inbetween big cycles as opposed to "off-cycle". with anavar and the like. but good info for guys who actually go off.

It'll also help sustain your sex drive and morning wood post-cycle while keeping your estrogen levels in check. Can't beat that.

 

[Nelson Montana]

As much as I'm not apt to take the conclusion of one study (or even two or three) as an all out absolute, this does coinside with what my experiences have suggested all along. Proviron is not very inhibitory, making it an excellent conduit from a cycle to going going natural.

Since it also works as an effective anti -e it has several advantages over all other post cycle drugs.


It does not lower FSH (like Clomid)


It does not lower IGF-1 (like nolvadex)


It is not site specific,(like nolva) removing estrogen throughout the body.


It lowers SHBG (which Clomid raises) thereby incresing testosterone.


It is side effect free in the recommended dosages. (i.e. vision disturbances, acne, etc)


It can not lower your e too much (lke A-dex)


SInce it is not an estrogen "blocker" it does not have the possible rebound effect of nolva.


It does not afect mood negitively like Clomid.


It gets you hard as a rock!


It gets you dick hard as a rock!


It really is the best and only logical drug choice.

I predict that within a year, there is going to be a tremendous shift in the post cycle therapy of most steroid users. When the word starts to spread that all they need (assuming cycles aren't totally stupid) is Proviron and some natural herbs and nutrients, everyone is going to wonder why anyone ever took Clomid or Nolvadex.

Okay, now you don't have to read the second chapter of Bottom Line Bodybuilding.

 

[Juice Authority]

Nelosn,

I'm trying to gather some data that shows proviron reducing estrogen levels. Do you any reference points for that?

 

[doublebicep]

Nice to have a study that shows what anecdotal evidence has been indicating for Proviron. 25mg/day seems to be reasonable and relatively inexpensive.

 

[Nelson Montana]

To ne hoest, I don't know of any studies of Proviron be used specifically for that purpose, but that's because the drug wasn't designed to lower e. And being an androgen, it would not be used in women.

This has always been my point about using studies or the lack thereof as proof. We have to use some deductve reasoning here. Anabolics 2000. Chemical Muscle Enhancement, W.A.R site not studies on Proviron as an anti e yet each author agress it works as such and I concur. The fact that Proviron acts similarly to DHT automatically makes it an anti -e since DHT can not aromatize. In a way, winstrol is an anti e as well, but no one would ever think of it as such. I know guys that take nlva with a cycle of winny! It's just stupid.

 

[JibbyJabba]

My only apprehension about Proviron is, due to its androgenic nature, that it seemingly is pretty rough on the hair... this is further confirmed by some of its users...

Can anyone shed anymore light Proviron with respect to hair loss?

 

[Riker29]

One small, but very important distinction here guys. And I am no expert on such things, but really, this is a point to be considered.

There is a difference between:

Something that will NOT shut down or supress a normally functioning HPTA, and

Something that will prevent an abnormally functioning HPTA from recovering.

These are NOT the same phenomena or attributes.

From what I understand (and no, I cant point to studies or references, its just based on my obesrvations and what I have read over several years), Proviron will NOT shut you down if all is Normal and well.

However IF your HPTA is down and you are trying to recover, it will PREVENT recovery from taking place.

 

[Juice Authority]

My only apprehension about Proviron is, due to its androgenic nature, that it seemingly is pretty rough on the hair... this is further confirmed by some of its users...

Can anyone shed anymore light Proviron with respect to hair loss?

Good question since Proviron is a DHT in many respects, which is hard on the hairline. Nelson?