Prometheus IMAX 3D tonight

[RottenWillow]

I expected a truly epic story. We got epic effects, an uninspired screenplay, bland script, and underwhelming performances from several fine actors.

Plus the obvious failures to match up certain keys facts with the beginning of Alien was puzzling. The alien pilot left his chair to attack the heroine in the shuttle, so how will there be another alien pilot in his ship's chair when The Nostromo arrives 30 years later? Also, wreckage of human made ships on the planetoid's surface? This won't ever be remarked on by any subsequent arrivals on LV.

 

[stosstruppe]

It was dogshit. Usually I go to the cinema to be entertained rather than watch "art" but even this pushed the boundaries of my patience.

Nicely summed up in Maddox's review:

Prometheus in a nutshell.

 

[RickRock13]

I expected a truly epic story. We got epic effects, an uninspired screenplay, bland script, and underwhelming performances from several fine actors.

Plus the obvious failures to match up certain keys facts with the beginning of Alien was puzzling. The alien pilot left his chair to attack the heroine in the shuttle, so how will there be another alien pilot in his ship's chair when The Nostromo arrives 30 years later? Also, wreckage of human made ships on the planetoid's surface? This won't ever be remarked on by any subsequent arrivals on LV.

You guys are missing a lot of what this movie is about. It has nothing to do with the Alien series other than some very small plot points that tie it. If you go in wanting to see another Alien film you will be disappointed.

The pilot of the ship is not the same pilot from Alien because its a completely different ship on a completely different planet....period. Alien and Aliens takes place on LV-426 and Prometheus takes place on LV-223. It also explains why there is no wreckage from human ships on Alien.....different fucking planet....nuff said.


Ridley Scott intended this to be a whole new stand alone series and that is exactly what it will be

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

You guys are missing a lot of what this movie is about. It has nothing to do with the Alien series other than some very small plot points that tie it. If you go in wanting to see another Alien film you will be disappointed.

The pilot of the ship is not the same pilot from Alien because its a completely different ship on a completely different planet....period. Alien and Aliens takes place on LV-426 and Prometheus takes place on LV-223. It also explains why there is no wreckage from human ships on Alien.....different fucking planet....nuff said.


Ridley Scott intended this to be a whole new stand alone series and that is exactly what it will be

Yup, but to be more precise LV-223 is actually a moon. They didn't want that black good shit anywhere near their home planet. Seeing as how all hell broke loose with it (not once but now twice) it was a good choice.

'You would have to go two more films until you get to be anywhere near Alien'
-R. Scott

He also said this movie is about questions, not answers.

Here's a good dissection of the movie

A couple interesting tidbits from the director-

“From the very beginning, I was working from a premise that lent itself to a sequel. I really don’t want to meet God in the first one. I want to leave it open to [Noomi Rapace’s character, Dr. Elizabeth Shaw] saying, ‘I don’t want to go back to where I came from. I want to go where they came from.’“

In fact, the original script for Prometheus flat out explained why Earth was targeted for destruction, and the reasoning ties into Scott’s thoughts on religion. They ultimately felt the idea was lacking in subtlety and scrapped it, but Scott elaborated on the plot point to Movies.com and his comments may provide a hint as to where the follow-up could go:

“We definitely did [have that in the script], and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an ‘our children are misbehaving down there’ scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, ‘Lets’ send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it. Guess what? They crucified him.’”

One pointless criticism I read a lot is how they just "happened" to end up right at the exact location of the ship. Well, they've already explained that there were many of them, and it's a movie. Why waste runtime for the sake of wandering around looking, especially when you're on a hi tech spaceship that already traveled millions of miles through an abyss right to the moon itself. I'm sure most people have had a "small world" type of meeting by chance before.

 

[uamaverick]

Stop yer grinnin' and drop yer linen!!

 

[RickRock13]

Yup, but to be more precise LV-223 is actually a moon. They didn't want that black good shit anywhere near their home planet. Seeing as how all hell broke loose with it (not once but now twice) it was a good choice.

'You would have to go two more films until you get to be anywhere near Alien'
-R. Scott

He also said this movie is about questions, not answers.

Here's a good dissection of the movie

A couple interesting tidbits from the director-

“From the very beginning, I was working from a premise that lent itself to a sequel. I really don’t want to meet God in the first one. I want to leave it open to [Noomi Rapace’s character, Dr. Elizabeth Shaw] saying, ‘I don’t want to go back to where I came from. I want to go where they came from.’“

In fact, the original script for Prometheus flat out explained why Earth was targeted for destruction, and the reasoning ties into Scott’s thoughts on religion. They ultimately felt the idea was lacking in subtlety and scrapped it, but Scott elaborated on the plot point to Movies.com and his comments may provide a hint as to where the follow-up could go:

“We definitely did [have that in the script], and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an ‘our children are misbehaving down there’ scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, ‘Lets’ send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it. Guess what? They crucified him.’”

One pointless criticism I read a lot is how they just "happened" to end up right at the exact location of the ship. Well, they've already explained that there were many of them, and it's a movie. Why waste runtime for the sake of wandering around looking, especially when you're on a hi tech spaceship that already traveled millions of miles through an abyss right to the moon itself. I'm sure most people have had a "small world" type of meeting by chance before.

Great post bro! Of course I can't wait to see where the story goes from here in the ensuing films to come

 

[RottenWillow]

You guys are missing a lot of what this movie is about. It has nothing to do with the Alien series other than some very small plot points that tie it. If you go in wanting to see another Alien film you will be disappointed.

The pilot of the ship is not the same pilot from Alien because its a completely different ship on a completely different planet....period. Alien and Aliens takes place on LV-426 and Prometheus takes place on LV-223. It also explains why there is no wreckage from human ships on Alien.....different fucking planet....nuff said.


Ridley Scott intended this to be a whole new stand alone series and that is exactly what it will be

And you're missing what my post was about. I appreciate your explanation of the director's plan for the series and how this installment relates to Alien, but none of that changes the fact that it wasn't nearly as good as I'd expected. And I wasn't looking for "another Alien film". I expected a better story, script, and performances

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

And you're missing what my post was about. I appreciate your explanation of the director's plan for the series and how this installment relates to Alien, but none of that changes the fact that it wasn't nearly as good as I'd expected. And I wasn't looking for "another Alien film". I expected a better story, script, and performances

The original Alien wasn't really any more epic though either. It only seems that way because it was the original (blame nostalgia). The problem with the writing in Prometheus is largely because they're purposely being vague (admittedly too much at times) for the sake of setting up another trilogy. It makes it an easy target for disappointment. Many people like yourself seem to expect a more cut and dried storyline here, and specifically complain about the lack of a connection to the Alien storyline...

Plus the obvious failures to match up certain keys facts with the beginning of Alien was puzzling. The alien pilot left his chair to attack the heroine in the shuttle, so how will there be another alien pilot in his ship's chair when The Nostromo arrives 30 years later? Also, wreckage of human made ships on the planetoid's surface? This won't ever be remarked on by any subsequent arrivals on LV.

Not every movie will have the pieces fall into place right off that bat. If they did no one would be talking about them anymore.

 

[RottenWillow]

The original Alien wasn't really any more epic though either.

to you.

Alien was well written and exceptionally well acted.

It only seems that way because it was the original (blame nostalgia).

I'm not nostalgic about Alien. I only saw it a few years ago.

The problem with the writing in Prometheus is largely because they're purposely being vague (admittedly too much at times) for the sake of setting up another trilogy. It makes it an easy target for disappointment. Many people like yourself seem to expect a more cut and dried storyline here, and specifically complain about the lack of a connection to the Alien storyline...

I didn't find anything vague, arcane, or complex about the story or dialogue. I thought it was uninspired and rather simplistic.



Now can we please just acknowledge this is the opinion of another moviegoer and stop trying to explain why her impression is somehow fundamentally flawed because she "just doesn't get it"