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swole
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List your goals and stats so we can better help you.
Prohormones are not a good idea. Sure, it's easier to swallow pills than inject (it's really not, but those new to AAS are usually scared of the injection process). I've done my share of prohormones. They were fun, and I got large & strong. Would I do them again? Not if someone paid me. I'm currently on a pinning cycle, and will tell you right now it blows that crap out of the water. You can't even compare.
We'll better serve you once we know a little more about you.
Prohormones are not a good idea. Sure, it's easier to swallow pills than inject (it's really not, but those new to AAS are usually scared of the injection process). I've done my share of prohormones. They were fun, and I got large & strong. Would I do them again? Not if someone paid me. I'm currently on a pinning cycle, and will tell you right now it blows that crap out of the water. You can't even compare.
We'll better serve you once we know a little more about you.
swole
Well-known member
drail82 said:
Ditch the prohormone idea. Start stuffing your face with the right food. Train like a raped ape. Then, start researching real cycles.
Check out some steroid profiles:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsteroids.htm
Injection references:
http://spotinjections.com/
http://howtodoinjections.com/
Then check out some sample cycles posted right here on this forum. I suggest going plat and using that search function.
Then post up with questions. Typical stacks include some form of test with EQ, Deca, Winny, Var.
Go.
omega529
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Welcome bro......I disagree with both of them.....prohormones are quite good for alot of people, and the side affects arent usually not bad at all....i sell a ton of prohoremones at my store and have never had anyone say something bad....ive even had people who have used prohormones and steroids (not together) and sometimes they would have better ganes on prohormones with less (much less) sides....Prohormones are verry good for beginners in my opinion......Methyl 1D is pretty good stuff, I have heard good things about the Liquid masterdrol....but ive also heard bad things as well.....Its good not to rush into steroids despite what some people say....make sure you always do a ton of research and ask questions before you take something....but try not to ask if you can find it in your research......
Good luck!
Good luck!
Mac173 said:
Agreed. You can always do the "Pussy starter cycle" which is Primobolin tabs. It'll give you a taste of what it's like to be on steroids without the sides of prohormones. Also, check out BIG BLAST and UNLEASHED. Bovine serum and avenacosides will do (to a degree) what steroids do and it's completely free of side effects. Prohormones suck ass out loud.
omega529
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Mac173 said:
What do you call side effects with prohormones.....in the last 3 years i havent herd of any problems with people on prohormones......I have had about 30 people within the last 6 months tell me that they loved prohoremones and had not 1 side from them......It may raise lives enzyme count a bit, but nothing some milk thistle and fiber cant make better.
swole
Well-known member
omega529 said:
There's no proof to this.
Why bother with processing the crap through your liver when you can just inject the good stuff?
Of course people aren't going to complain about the gains they make from prohormones. I didn't complain either when I first started swallowing these pills. That's because people are so wet behind the ears when it comes to enhanced growth anything that gives them A.A.S.-like effects is automatically good shit in their opinion.
Wait until the same people use real stuff, then they'll notice, see, and feel the difference.
Prohormones - garbage. You need to take at least 2700mg DAILY of something that converts to test to see the same effects as 300mg injected ONCE weekly. AND...the injection is easier on your system.
loolol @ prohormones and anyone who still endorses them.
Dude I've done 3 prohormone cycles. I've done them ALL. 4-AD. 1-AD. M1T. M4OHN. M4AA. Superdrol.
I'm only in week 4 of my first pinning cycle - EQ, Cyp, Var - and can already tell you I feel 10 times better in all aspects than while on prohormones. Your body doesn't need the added stress of processing pills.
thebadguy54
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I agree that M1T and other Prohormones stress the liver and generally suck. When I told my doctor I was thinking of trying AAS his advice was "as long as you use the real (injectable) stuff and not the pills"
omega529
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Ok.....here is the thing, if you dont know anything about steroids....you can either listen to swole, and screw your self up, or you can start with prohormones, do your research and then when you ready start steroids (and know enough about them) take them.....ive known way to many people who have done steroids not knowing dick about them just to loose all their gains plus more....Im not saying AAS dosent give you great results cause they do....i would do steroids over prohormones anyday....but if you dont know anything about them then you can easily screw up with them.
Swole: Anavar is a pill.
Swole: Anavar is a pill.
healthfrk76
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i think the ban is retarded as well. a recent user of prohormones, i ran methyl 1-d and and 3,6,17-androstenendion and made gains, then when coming off cycle everything i had gained flew off, thus i made the assumption it was a whole lot of water. so yes they suck. ill never do them again, personally i think they are a waste and a scam like most supplements. now its the real deal or no deal, plus for a few bucks more man up and stick it, and make twice the gains in the same amount of time.
Prohormones are to gear as playing in the sandbox is to the monkeybars.
not too worried about the bans, clones pop up faster than they can be banned.
not too worried about the bans, clones pop up faster than they can be banned.
swole
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omega529 said:
Yea, start with the ones that give the worst side effects. How do you figure keeping gains with real gear is harder than with prohormones? You're telling me mass developed over a long cycle from compounds such as Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , a long ester test, Anavar - oxandrolone - or trenbolone are HARDER to keep than the average 6-8 week prohormone cycle? You're out of your mind bro. There's a reason prohormones are only run 6-8 weeks. That's because your liver shouldn't be under that much stress for a long period of time. Ever wonder why experienced juicers won't touch prohormones again? Because they're not worth the time. It's all junk water weight. You'll keep about 25% of gains, if that. You need more than 6-8 weeks to build quality muscle with test. And if you're on prohormones for longer than that, you're already fucking up your insides too much.
Anavar is also one of the most mild oral supplements in terms of A.A.S. Get your facts straight. Just because people come into your store to buy this crap doesn't make it the right thing for newbies to do.
And prohormones have already been banned. Ergopharm's 1-AD and 4-AD were taken off the shelves about 2 years ago.
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omega529
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swole said:
No, prohormones have not all been banned....andro is also still used in prohormones today....Powerdrol, Pro Magnum 25,Hemadrol, Methy Depot, Testra Flex, Methyl Flex, ect... are all prohormones that are still soled....
Also the reason people dont stay on prohormones is not because of liver damage.....Winstrol - stanozolol is much more toxic the prohormones....in example: Winstrol - stanozolol 17 alpha-alkylated steroid...powerdrol 17A compund 17A is has a verry low toxicity level to the liver. Again milk thistle and fiber will take care of that. Also, yes you can keep gains on prohormones if you know how to do a PCT - post cycle therapy - with regular supplaments. Testrol from german american is a verry good natural test stabalizer, also Anabolic Xtreme puts out PCT witch has an anti aromatize inhibitor in it as well as Nolvedex XT from gaspari..... When ever i put people on these other things 80-90% of gains are kept, and their has not been 1 report of sides or raised liver enzyme counts.
Also, yes.....if you dont do a proper PCT you will loose everything you gain from anabolic androgenic steroids, including some of what you didnt gain....This is why HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - is injected and Clomid/nolvadex/Arimidex - anastrozole - is taken....
I have seen many experienced juicer use prohormones. I know people who have used for 20 Years get back on prohormones.
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Jeez i'm wondering if PH is even worth my time, but I know it's probably better to start off on PH rather then Start with juice. I'm just worried about my liver because I tend to hit the bottle more then I should.
And why cant I put a avatar in? all my pics are saying there to big.
And why cant I put a avatar in? all my pics are saying there to big.
lightemup82
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That is one nice dancing bouncing babe you have.....NickyE3 said:
krbn08
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drail82 said:
Go to www.google.com and click the image search feature.
Then go to advanced image search and tell the computer to search for only small size images.
Type in what you want to find and it will bring up all small images that you
can link as an avi. These are the only sized images that it will accept unless your
a platinum or something like that. If your a platinum member you can put bigger
pictures as your avi.
truckdaddy
Banned
I tried the Epi/havoc and enjoyed them both.......slapped on 7-10 pounds.
omega529
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krbn08 said:
Actually it is........At least LG Sciences says it is....
As far as good prohormones you can still buy, Pro Magnum 25 and Powerdrol are both verry good. I havent had anyone come in and tell me they havent made good gains off them. Steroids.com gives Powerdrol 4 stars out of 5.
The compounds for those 2 are:
Pro magnon 25 from PPL:4-chloro-methyl-andro-4-ene-3, 17b-doil
Powerdrol from German American:
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
Methyl 1-D from LG Sciences: 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one .....seems kinda week.
lightemup82
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What sides they give you?UkKaReD said:
