Prohormones? Pfft. Who needs 'em?

[GymDog99]

Since I recently found out I'm going to be put on HGH replacement therapy for the rest of my life (stems back from being HGH deficient as a child, I used to have to take HGH everyday until I was 17 to ensure I grew normally), I did not want to run anything that my endocrinologist would notice (i.e., anything that would suppress the HTPA)...however, since I hadn't cycled ANYTHING in over 4 years, I was DYING to get on something. I already had Unleashed, HCGenerate, Need2Slin, and Formestane on-hand, as I was planning on running these with my Dieselbolan 2.0 I also had on-hand. I decided to hold off on the Dieselbolan 2.0,and just run the Unleashed, HCGenerate, Need2Slin, and Formestane for 4-6 weeks. My main goal is strength, but my secondary goals are just to gain as much muscle, while minimizing fat gain or even possibly inducing fat loss, as I possibly can.

My current stats are as follows:

I'm 28 years old, 6'0", 225 lbs, somewhere around 8% to 10% bodyfat. My current stats are as follows:

Neck: 18.5"
Chest: 51.5"
Biceps: 18.0"
Forearms: 14.0"
Waist: 34.0"
Thighs: 27.5"
Calves: 18.5"

I'm exercising 7 days a week, where my lift days are done with a DC-style training, and my non-lift days are just running 3-4 miles. Also, my lift days always have 15-20 minutes cardio PWO.

I'm not going to bother giving all my diet info, but I'm consuming roughly 4300 cals/day, and my meal strategy is to organize my meals to either be predominantly protein/carbs or protein/fat.

I'm keeping a datalog of my lifts, but I won't post it up on here until I'm done with my cycle.

I just wanted to let you guys know, as of Day 6, I'm already up 6 pounds! I'm sure a chunk of that is simply from the increased food and water intake, but still, not a bad start. I haven't noticed any strength increases yet, but my lifting rotation doesn't cycle back over until Wednesday (04/28), so perhaps then I'll be able to compare last week's numbers to the numbers I hit that day. I'll keep you guys posted...

 

[GymDog99]

No real update just yet, but thought I'd mention...

Strangely enough, despite hearing everyone rant and rave about HCGenerate's and Unleashed's libido and male enhancement effects, I really haven't noticed any difference in that area at all, even after seven days now. Interesting...

ALso, just took measurements, and despite the 6 lb. weight increase, there's no change in the tape measurements, so likely, it's all water and glycogen supersaturation that's accounted for the weight gain. I wasn't expecting more than maybe 5 lbs. gained for the entire 30-day cycle, so these supplements still have time to prove themselves. Hopefully, we'll at least see some strength increases next week...

 

[GymDog99]

Day 10: I'm up another pound in weight. Unfortunately, due to a family emergency, I had to miss my workout two days in a row, so I'm behind in my "schedule", but that's life.

Today was the first morning I woke up to a "standing flag pole", if you know what I mean...

I think I've seen some strength gains, but won't be able to tell until I cycle my training routine, which won't start happening until Friday. I'll keep you guys posted...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Day 10: I'm up another pound in weight. Unfortunately, due to a family emergency, I had to miss my workout two days in a row, so I'm behind in my "schedule", but that's life.

Today was the first morning I woke up to a "standing flag pole", if you know what I mean...

I think I've seen some strength gains, but won't be able to tell until I cycle my training routine, which won't start happening until Friday. I'll keep you guys posted...

If you've be diagnosed as clinically needing HGH, you have special needs -- though at 6' tall, I don't know what the problem is!

The supps can still work well with HCG supplemntation by by themseleves they may need a little help. Good to hear the UNLEASHED is kicking in and you got the little General to stand up an salute.

You should be fine adding these and maybe a few others. But if you're clinically suppressed with GH, go with what the doc suggests. I'd think you wouldn't need much as an adult. Maybe 2i.u's 2x's a week.

 

[GymDog99]

I'm not even factoring in HGH as any bodybuilding supplementation. Whatever my doc prescribes me, that's what I'll take (BTW, I grew to 6ft BECAUSE I was on HGH therapy. When I was 6, they projected my adult height at 4'0" w/o HGH...)

I'm up 9 lbs total now, and I've gained notable strength. It's nothing compared to strength gains seen on a REAL cycle, but I never ran this stack with those kind of expectations. So far, things are looking good, and part of me wants to keep it going for more than 4 weeks, but I'll be good and wait to run the same stack again (except with Dieselbolan 2.0) a few months later down the road...

 

[GymDog99]

Just an update. I haven't seen the scale increase, but I'm feeling slightly leaner, and I've grown slightly in the few areas I've measured (ex, chest is up 1/2", arms up 1/4". My strength has increased steadily in all my lifts so far, nothing "steroid-like", but as I've said before, that's not what I was expecting anyways.

I'll continue to update this thread, but I'll give you my thoughts on this cycle so far...

I really regret doing this cycle...My regret? That I should have done this for EIGHT WEEKS! Honestly, I really enjoyed this cycle, in some ways, better than any hormonal cycle I've ever done. On one hand, it's nice to see fast results; however, the gains I've made on this are still nothing to a "real" hormone cycle.

I think my plans after this are to wait until mid-June (after I've seen my endocrinologist), and then do a non-hormonal cutting cycle, then back to an eight-week version of this cycle I'm currently on...