Pro body builders and their cycles

[Sinister Minister]

Guys, new to the site but pretty much a vet with gear.

Funny how you can google pro bb's workouts and such but c'mon do we really know what they do? I'm not so much interested in their routines but I am curious to see their gear cycles... Wondering what these guys really do? I know some people feel 500mg a wk of test is high, some think a gram and half is high. But I'm wondering if Big Ron really pinned 5 frikkin grams of test a wk?? I'd love to get ahold of a pros cycle schedule and see if I grow a vag after reading it and thinkin some of my previous cycles were hardcore!

 

[Sherk]

Welcome to EF. This topic has come up on here more times than I can count. No one will ever know. It's not something they openly talk about.

 

[Seattleborn206]

Guys, new to the site but pretty much a vet with gear.

Funny how you can google pro bb's workouts and such but c'mon do we really know what they do? I'm not so much interested in their routines but I am curious to see their gear cycles... Wondering what these guys really do? I know some people feel 500mg a wk of test is high, some think a gram and half is high. But I'm wondering if Big Ron really pinned 5 frikkin grams of test a wk?? I'd love to get ahold of a pros cycle schedule and see if I grow a vag after reading it and thinkin some of my previous cycles were hardcore!

Ifbb pro's won't tell people about there cycles because the second a teen that wants to look like pro bb there gonna try to run the doses a pro dose

 

[Sinister Minister]

Welcome to EF. This topic has come up on here more times than I can count. No one will ever know. It's not something they openly talk about.

I know right! That's my point, u can google this and that and see allegedly what some of these pros run but we all know it's bs. I seen a site the other day that said Arnold's favorite cycle was was 24months of 1gram of primo per week with 80mgs of dbol and 100mgs of winny ed... No fn way, no pct or AI's then either? I couldnt even imagine what that would cost us? I also seen an interview with flex Lewis saying he doesn't use aas! He only uses the natty supps that gaspari provides him.. Hahahahaha that is funny shit!

 

[training700]

They didn't really do pct or AI's in past and of course its expensive.. if your a pro you think cycles are gonna be even remotely cheap

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[stevesmi]

its a full time job for those guys. for us we are gym rats and have our own full time jobs. just imagine if you spent 6 or 7 hours a day dedicated to eating, working out and sleeping.. if i were rich enough I would do just that cause i love this lifestyle

 

[LetsGrow]

Flex admitted on a video I saw that he is now on hrt because we he retired and came off aas his t levels were like 35 or some crazy shit.

 

[LetsGrow]

its a full time job for those guys. For us we are gym rats and have our own full time jobs. Just imagine if you spent 6 or 7 hours a day dedicated to eating, working out and sleeping.. If i were rich enough i would do just that cause i love this lifestyle

+1

 

[Sinister Minister]

its a full time job for those guys. for us we are gym rats and have our own full time jobs. just imagine if you spent 6 or 7 hours a day dedicated to eating, working out and sleeping.. if i were rich enough I would do just that cause i love this lifestyle

I would give my left nut for the opportunity to live that life and make a great living doing it too!

 

[Sinister Minister]

Flex admitted on a video I saw that he is now on hrt because we he retired and came off aas his t levels were like 35 or some crazy shit.

Bro, I believe you're referring to Flex Wheeler, I was talking about flex Lewis! But you are right tho, wheeler did shrink tremendously after he retired. Then he started using the synthol oil and looks god awful terrible now... Such a waste!!

 

[ALIN]

Guys, new to the site but pretty much a vet with gear.

Funny how you can google pro bb's workouts and such but c'mon do we really know what they do? I'm not so much interested in their routines but I am curious to see their gear cycles... Wondering what these guys really do? I know some people feel 500mg a wk of test is high, some think a gram and half is high. But I'm wondering if Big Ron really pinned 5 frikkin grams of test a wk?? I'd love to get ahold of a pros cycle schedule and see if I grow a vag after reading it and thinkin some of my previous cycles were hardcore!

Ive worked with a ton of pros but I wont discuss individual's cycles,,thats confidential to me and my client. I will say I have seen a braod spectrum.
From low dose that no one would ever beleive all the way to 6..7..8 grams per week.

 

[ledhead]

I met Dennis Newman in California back in 1993, I think he just won the Nationals. I asked him what he was on, his reply was, "take anything and everything you can get your hands on." True story...

 

[Sinister Minister]

Ive worked with a ton of pros but I wont discuss individual's cycles,,thats confidential to me and my client. I will say I have seen a braod spectrum.
From low dose that no one would ever beleive all the way to 6..7..8 grams per week.

Ok, I won't ask any names at all but I'd love to hear a few of these 7-8 grams of gear a wk plans... Care to divulge?

 

[Sinister Minister]

I met Dennis Newman in California back in 1993, I think he just won the Nationals. I asked him what he was on, his reply was, "take anything and everything you can get your hands on." True story...

I don't doubt he said that at all!! I have a buddy who had his pro card in the early - mid 90's and is now a really successful trainer and business man. The crap he's told me they've done is outrageous!! Unbelievable even... He used to sit out front of a few gyms with a big Macy's shopping bag stuffed full of test, Deca winny and dbol and sell em to everybody who wanted it.. No joke he used to go home with a damn empty bag everytme. But even he would jack 3-4 grams a wk... Snort blow and adderall or even ephedra as his cutting cycles!

 

[daveyboy2345]

google Tom Prince's 2001 cycle, since you are curious.

 

[ledhead]

Bro, I believe you're referring to Flex Wheeler, I was talking about flex Lewis! But you are right tho, wheeler did shrink tremendously after he retired. Then he started using the synthol oil and looks god awful terrible now... Such a waste!!

I thought Wheeler had a double kidney transplant?? I could wrong...

 

[Sinister Minister]

google Tom Prince's 2001 cycle, since you are curious.

Ok, but how can u guarantee that it actually is his cycle?

 

[Sinister Minister]

I thought Wheeler had a double kidney transplant?? I could wrong...

You could be right man, I don't know! I just know wheeler is out of the game for a while and Lewis is young and up n coming...

 

[Sinister Minister]

Dorian Yates Professional Bodybuilder Steroid Cycle

Yates cycle

week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg winny/day

HGH throughout ranging from 10ius a day all the way up till 24iu a day

I dnt know how really this cycle is though, those mgs seem way way high.

 

[Sinister Minister]

5 grams of test suspension and 2.5 grams of tren in a wk?? No way....

 

[Cali72]

Man I was under the impression that these pros got so damn big by using muscle tech products.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Man I was under the impression that these pros got so damn big by using muscle tech products.

Yates admitted to taking 500 mgs of drol a day? He's lucky to be alive. That had to be with a ton of BP meds I'd reckon.

What the pros take is irrelevant. They're pros not because of their cycles but because of their genetics. Larry Scott took 20 mgs of dbol a day for a month before a contest. Who looks like Larry Scott around here? Body & Style - Larry Scott the first Mr.Olympia the biography

 

[bluetoolpaul]

Muscle tech?!? Really dude?? No way, that's GNC pro performance gold super muscle particle inhibitor fructose ovaltine high impact mix.

Haha, I've read/heard pros use 50-100 grand worth of juice a year. Crazy shit. Its hard to tell which is truth and which is hearsay.


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[stingray23]

Dorian Yates Professional Bodybuilder Steroid Cycle

Yates cycle

week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg winny/day

HGH throughout ranging from 10ius a day all the way up till 24iu a day

I dnt know how really this cycle is though, those mgs seem way way high.

This cycle for Dorian is False. After being asked about his cycle history forever, he finally said what he did in Oct. 2011 issue of Muscular Development. This is what he used:
1st cycle ever:
weeks 1-4 he would take 20mg of Dbol everyday
weeks 5-8 he would take 15mg of Anavar everyday and 100mg of primobolan weekly

This is what he took in the final 12 weeks leading up to the 1993 Mr.Olympia:
DAILY:
Anavar-50mg
GH-8 iu

WEEKLY:
Test Prop-300mg
Parabolan(Tren)-152mg
Primobolan-500mg

Off-Season Stack:
DAILY:
Dbol-50mg

WEEKLY:
Test(didnt specify which)-750mg
Deca-500mg

 

[bluetoolpaul]

Yates admitted to taking 500 mgs of drol a day? He's lucky to be alive. That had to be with a ton of BP meds I'd reckon.

What the pros take is irrelevant. They're pros not because of their cycles but because of their genetics. Larry Scott took 20 mgs of dbol a day for a month before a contest. Who looks like Larry Scott around here? Body & Style - Larry Scott the first Mr.Olympia the biography

This^^^^^ people seem to forget that genetic make up is very important along w/ how someone responds to steroids. Pro's in the 70's all looked like chiseled gods, even if they hadnt cycled they'd look better than 95% of us who juice, way better. Now we have top rate supps, exact doses of aas to follow, shit like insulin, thyroid meds and hgh that can take an avg guy into freak territory but could never compete at a pro level bc of basic dna. I read once that ronnie coleman stayed on 600 mgs of test and eq year rd. How do you prove or disprove that? That seems very tame to shit todays pros do, but how do u prove ronnie otherwise? Is he selectively forgetting to mention the growth, slin and t3? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?

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[Sinister Minister]

This^^^^^ people seem to forget that genetic make up is very important along w/ how someone responds to steroids. Pro's in the 70's all looked like chiseled gods, even if they hadnt cycled they'd look better than 95% of us who juice, way better. Now we have top rate supps, exact doses of aas to follow, shit like insulin, thyroid meds and hgh that can take an avg guy into freak territory but could never compete at a pro level bc of basic dna. I read once that ronnie coleman stayed on 600 mgs of test and eq year rd. How do you prove or disprove that? That seems very tame to shit todays pros do, but how do u prove ronnie otherwise? Is he selectively forgetting to mention the growth, slin and t3? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?

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I do agree with the genetics part to a degree. I do think all these pros started very young and gained access good gear, great training and top notch advisement!! You know the weirdest thing to me about the 70's and 80's pros? Their weight!! I don't think to many people realized that Ronnie won mr O at what 290 lbs? Arnold won at 225lbs!!!! Colombo and Zane was even lighter than that! So Arnold at 225 with no pct or AI's at top of his game is still the most sought after physique

 

[CSB]

Add to that Arnold's height !

 

[stevesmi]

I saw a very good doc on tv this morning say something interesting.. he said "the more you take drugs, the less effective they become"

that is food for thought.. so before you anyone decides to copy these 'pro cycles' remember that. and then think of the money you will spend having to run bigger and bigger amounts of roids. is it receptors that get flooded? maybe, maybe not.. that is another discussion for another day. but no one can deny that if you start taking 3 grams of roids a week that taking low doses will do as much for you in the future.

so stick to low doses, bust your ass in the gym, eat solid whole foods, eat your veggies, and cycle smart and conservatively off and on.. and in the long term you will be able to use low doses and be very successful.

 

[stevesmi]

I do agree with the genetics part to a degree. I do think all these pros started very young and gained access good gear, great training and top notch advisement!! You know the weirdest thing to me about the 70's and 80's pros? Their weight!! I don't think to many people realized that Ronnie won mr O at what 290 lbs? Arnold won at 225lbs!!!! Colombo and Zane was even lighter than that! So Arnold at 225 with no pct or AI's at top of his game is still the most sought after physique

Samir Bannout was 195 pounds .. mr olympia from 83 or 84. granted he was only 5 7..

Ronnie is a freakin beast, its insane the way these guys look today.. and to be honest i give them props for having that much mass but it isn't beautiful to me from an artistic sense. and i've asked girls i dated who they think had the nicest body and most of them say Eugene Sandow did, the look of today is nasty to them.

 

[Sinister Minister]

I saw a very good doc on tv this morning say something interesting.. he said "the more you take drugs, the less effective they become"

that is food for thought.. so before you anyone decides to copy these 'pro cycles' remember that. and then think of the money you will spend having to run bigger and bigger amounts of roids. is it receptors that get flooded? maybe, maybe not.. that is another discussion for another day. but no one can deny that if you start taking 3 grams of roids a week that taking low doses will do as much for you in the future.

so stick to low doses, bust your ass in the gym, eat solid whole foods, eat your veggies, and cycle smart and conservatively off and on.. and in the long term you will be able to use low doses and be very successful.

Please sir, do not get me wrong in any way. I did not start this thread to get a copy of a pros cycle to try and use or even advertise for anyone to use and nor do I think you think that. My intentions is to discuss the difference btwn opinions as of what's a hardcore cycle to you, me or others. I also like to strike the debate that even tho you can "google" a pros cycle or work out routine who really knows if it's factual?? In short I think it's smart for people willing to learn to try and use forums and discussion boards such as this to gain the knowledge from regular, knowledgable and safe folks like you guys. I've been apart of a lot of other boards and u will get the best advise and knowledge from these places rather than google or the local swole guy at the gym.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Dorian Yates Professional Bodybuilder Steroid Cycle

Yates cycle

week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg winny/day

HGH throughout ranging from 10ius a day all the way up till 24iu a day

I dnt know how really this cycle is though, those mgs seem way way high.

Yeah...Ima have to call severe bullshit on this here too. ^^^

I know some guys take a bucket of aas but really, 2000, 3000 mg of clomid? 20,000 iu of hcg? Thats just ludacris. For what? To make you go blind? Honestly....what would injecting 20,000 iu of HCG do for you that 1,000 wouldnt? Let alone clomid. Dudes get vision sides off low doses and this says thousands of mg a day....Bullshit.

The common thing about these "pros" is that They always seem to be mixing up the test esters every few weeks. When one comes clean about usage or we actually see someones cycle....this is the one common thing thats happening. I dont get mixing the test esters. I get going to faster acting like prop and susp leading to a show....but just mixing between cyp/sus/enat/susp/prop throughout a long cycle doesnt make sense. They all seem to do it though. WTF?

 

[Sinister Minister]

Yeah...Ima have to call severe bullshit on this here too. ^^^

I know some guys take a bucket of aas but really, 2000, 3000 mg of clomid? 20,000 iu of hcg? Thats just ludacris. For what? To make you go blind? Honestly....what would injecting 20,000 iu of HCG do for you that 1,000 wouldnt? Let alone clomid. Dudes get vision sides off low doses and this says thousands of mg a day....Bullshit.

The common thing about these "pros" is that They always seem to be mixing up the test esters every few weeks. When one comes clean about usage or we actually see someones cycle....this is the one common thing thats happening. I dont get mixing the test esters. I get going to faster acting like prop and susp leading to a show....but just mixing between cyp/sus/enat/susp/prop throughout a long cycle doesnt make sense. They all seem to do it though. WTF?

You're right, there is no way... 5 grams of test suspension and 2.5 grams of tren in a wk??? For 10 wks?? No fn way... Not buying it at all