Post workout???

[WinnyPumps]

Post Workout I've been doing 50g waxy maize followed by 50g whey and kre-alkelyn creatine.
My question is should I be using something with sugar also to spike insulin levels?? Can I just put sugar in my waxymaize??

 

[dabuffguy]

Post Workout I've been doing 50g waxy maize followed by 50g whey and kre-alkelyn creatine.
My question is should I be using something with sugar also to spike insulin levels?? Can I just put sugar in my waxymaize??

dextrose

 

[WinnyPumps]

dextrose

What has alot of dextrose in it?? How should I be supplementing it??

 

[Nelson Montana]

What has alot of dextrose in it?? How should I be supplementing it??

BIG BLAST contains dextrose.

 

[dabuffguy]

What has alot of dextrose in it?? How should I be supplementing it??

100% Grape juice


Just take it PWO with your other stuff. 1cup/8oz I believe is 40grams of carbs.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Honey, or ultimately, just plain sugar.

 

[cal62887]

Honey, or ultimately, just plain sugar.

Honey is good.

But ultimately as long as you have a solid pre workout meal, a good diet, you won't need an insuline spike at all. In fact chocolate milk or some whey and oats may work better than some "special carb".

The premise of WMS or amylocel doesn't really make much sense to lifter since glycogen isn't depleted. I'm sure most people here know how important a pre workout meal is to energy levels so I'll assume that you're getting a low GI carb in with a good source of fat and protein... with that said, you glycogen stores aren't nearly to the point of depletion that many think. Glycogen depletion may come into play in high endurance athletes and those who work out for 3+ hours of High Intensity training. So I'm not to say that High GI carbs aren't good for some, but for most people, there should be a steady flow of insulin without the need for an insulin response to replenish Glycogen.

I guess it all comes down to the type of training you're doing, in my opinion, if you're diet is right, you shouldn't need to worry about glycogen replenishment or the amount of water that you mix nutrients with.

 

[ghostshadow]

I mix a drink of 50 gm's of protein isolate, 5 grams of creatine, 5 grams of bcaa, 5 grams of glutamine and 2 scoops of a product called max-acm (has waxy maize). Drop some toco-8 and endo-amp in it for good measure. Been doing pretty good, seems to be doing the trick. I like big blast too, just ordered another 10 lbs of it the other day. I use big blast when I'm not out of it but isopure seems to work pretty good when I am.

 

[sonicwaste]

I don't quite understand this. I thought glycogen was always depleted to some extent after an intense workout. I know it isn't totally depleted, but at least enough to need a little replenishment.

And I don't quite understand why you say you don't need an insulin spike postworkout either.

Honey is good.

But ultimately as long as you have a solid pre workout meal, a good diet, you won't need an insuline spike at all. In fact chocolate milk or some whey and oats may work better than some "special carb".

The premise of WMS or amylocel doesn't really make much sense to lifter since glycogen isn't depleted. I'm sure most people here know how important a pre workout meal is to energy levels so I'll assume that you're getting a low GI carb in with a good source of fat and protein... with that said, you glycogen stores aren't nearly to the point of depletion that many think. Glycogen depletion may come into play in high endurance athletes and those who work out for 3+ hours of High Intensity training. So I'm not to say that High GI carbs aren't good for some, but for most people, there should be a steady flow of insulin without the need for an insulin response to replenish Glycogen.

I guess it all comes down to the type of training you're doing, in my opinion, if you're diet is right, you shouldn't need to worry about glycogen replenishment or the amount of water that you mix nutrients with.

 

[SouthernLord]

Honey is good.

But ultimately as long as you have a solid pre workout meal, a good diet, you won't need an insuline spike at all. In fact chocolate milk or some whey and oats may work better than some "special carb".

The premise of WMS or amylocel doesn't really make much sense to lifter since glycogen isn't depleted. I'm sure most people here know how important a pre workout meal is to energy levels so I'll assume that you're getting a low GI carb in with a good source of fat and protein... with that said, you glycogen stores aren't nearly to the point of depletion that many think. Glycogen depletion may come into play in high endurance athletes and those who work out for 3+ hours of High Intensity training. So I'm not to say that High GI carbs aren't good for some, but for most people, there should be a steady flow of insulin without the need for an insulin response to replenish Glycogen.

I guess it all comes down to the type of training you're doing, in my opinion, if you're diet is right, you shouldn't need to worry about glycogen replenishment or the amount of water that you mix nutrients with.

We've had this discussion before

I'm on your side of the argument now. Crazy pwo insulin spikes are completely unneeded imo. Unless you are a high level athlete training at high intensities for multiply hours at a time you are not going to deplete glycogen stores enough to warrant a heavy load of high GI carbs pwo. Not only that, but after resistance training GLUT4 will replenish what little glycogen was lost without the presence on insulin. I feel that the idea of specialty carbs and pwo concoctions is another gimmick of supplement companies and those wtih "special interests".

My ideal pwo meal.... 50g Whey isolate as I walk out of the gym. 15-30 minutes later 1 cup of oats mixed with 1 scoop of whey, 1 cup of frozen blueberries, and skim milk. I eat my next planned meal 1.5-2 hours later depending on hunger.


This is interesting......

Exercise, especially resistance training, has been shown to increase GLUT-4 translocation on skeletal muscle in the absence of insulin, meaning after your lift weights you do not need insulin for your muscles to uptake glucose. While insulin will certainly enhance the anabolic response of a meal post workout, slamming 100 grams of dextrose (pure glucose) is not needed since skeletal muscle is already able to uptake glucose in the absence of insulin after a workout. Increasing the glucose content of skeletal muscle (in the form of glycogen) is beneficial for gaining muscle, but remember that GLUT-4 transporters also exist on fat cells and therefore insulin secretion promotes the storage of glucose in both skeletal muscle and fat cells. Therefore, one needs to increase the storage of glucose in skeletal muscle and decrease the storage of glucose in fat cells; this can be done by consuming low glycemic carbohydrates such as oatmeal post-workout instead of high glycemic carbs like dextrose.