Possible to implement a German type driver education?

[Delinquent]

A while ago, I watched a show on the German Autobahn and how german citizens are required to take something like 2 years worth of driving education before they get their license. I really think such a thing would lower the number of accidents that occur in the US. Anyone think otherwise?

 

[a10j10]

Hmmm, could be a possibility...
in general, even though some of them drive like nuts over in Europe, may sound paradoxical but they actually know what they're doing.
Overall I find them to be better drivers.

The German Autobahn, if I'm not mistaken, has no speed limit...right?
Seems they have a very low, if no accident rate on that stretch of highway. This in fact could be due to better driver education.

I'm not sure how things work in the US, prob close or same as here in Canada, but I know for a fact that in Italy they also have to learn some mechanical aspects of vehicles, not only the hands-on aspect of simply driving.

So, in general I prob think it'd be a good idea to have extended driver education. Don't know about it having to be 2 years, but some further schooling could/might help.

Peace

 

[Delinquent]

Hmmm, could be a possibility...
in general, even though some of them drive like nuts over in Europe, may sound paradoxical but they actually know what they're doing.
Overall I find them to be better drivers.

The German Autobahn, if I'm not mistaken, has no speed limit...right?
Seems they have a ver low, if no accident rate on that stretch of highway. This in fact could be due to better driver education.

I'm not sure how things work in the US, prob close or same as here in Canada, but I know for a fact that in Italy they also have to learn some mechanical aspects of vehicles, not only the hands-on aspect of simply driving.

So, in general I porb think it'd be a good idea to have extended driver education. Don't know about it having to be 2 years, but some further schooling could/might help.

Peace

In the US, it's pathetic how easy it is to get a permit. Drive fairly slow, make turns, parallel park, and do a 3 point turn. It's really that simple

 

[a10j10]

In the US, it's pathetic how easy it is to get a permit. Drive fairly slow, make turns, parallel park, and do a 3 point turn. It's really that simple

Basically the same shit as here...

 

[pintoca]

2 years? depends on how much money you have to pay for lessons... there is a minimum mandatory number of hours you need to take if you are a complete newbie: daylight, noght time, raining, etc... I think it is like 50 hours in total... it adds up quickly.

then there is the teorical test... no big deal, but you need to study, about 4 wrong answers (out of 40) and you fail.

then there is the practical... done with an examinator of the infamous TÜV in the back of the car, who basically tries to screw you at every chance he gets (like make a left here, into a one way street... things like that).

It is a long, tedious, expensive process... but the license is europe-wide valid and NEVER expires...

Oh yeah, you have to do a 1 day mandatory First aid course too... because by law you HAVE to stop at the sight of an accident... if you see an accident and don't stop and somebody reports you, then you are in deep shit.

It took me about 3 months to get it all done, and I didn't have to take all the practical (only 8 hours) cause I had 10 years driving experience already... still had to take the theorical + practical... for me it was close to a 2000€ dealio.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

A while ago, I watched a show on the German Autobahn and how german citizens are required to take something like 2 years worth of driving education before they get their license. I really think such a thing would lower the number of accidents that occur in the US. Anyone think otherwise?

This is a good point. It's funny how one of the most important functions of everyday life gets so little attention in terms of education. We have to spend a year in a classroom to learn about different types of rocks, soil, literature, etc. but when it comes to operating a machine capable of killing if used irresponsibly.....a week plus a couple days on the road.

 

[Delinquent]

2 years? depends on how much money you have to pay for lessons... there is a minimum mandatory number of hours you need to take if you are a complete newbie: daylight, noght time, raining, etc... I think it is like 50 hours in total... it adds up quickly.

then there is the teorical test... no big deal, but you need to study, about 4 wrong answers (out of 40) and you fail.

then there is the practical... done with an examinator of the infamous TÜV in the back of the car, who basically tries to screw you at every chance he gets (like make a left here, into a one way street... things like that).

It is a long, tedious, expensive process... but the license is europe-wide valid and NEVER expires...

Oh yeah, you have to do a 1 day mandatory First aid course too... because by law you HAVE to stop at the sight of an accident... if you see an accident and don't stop and somebody reports you, then you are in deep shit.

It took me about 3 months to get it all done, and I didn't have to take all the practical (only 8 hours) cause I had 10 years driving experience already... still had to take the theorical + practical... for me it was close to a 2000€ dealio.

See, this is how it should be. Driving has always been a PRIVILEDGE and if you want that priviledge, you should be willing to pay for it.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

See, this is how it should be. Driving has always been a PRIVILEDGE and if you want that priviledge, you should be willing to pay for it.

Actually, our parents paid for it.

 

[pintoca]

then again. I couldn't be in any other way, given the way that you drive here... when a lot of peope if doing 150+ mph AT THE SAME TIME, you need to trust the other drivers not to do some stupid shit.

BTW; there are sections with speed limits (around junctions, town exits, etc)

 

[Delinquent]

Actually, our parents paid for it.

well yea I figured that but I think that such a thing should require such dedication. If a parent shells out that kind of cash, they are gonna make sure their kid passes

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

See, this is how it should be. Driving has always been a PRIVILEDGE and if you want that priviledge, you should be willing to pay for it.

Agreed in principle, FL drivers are reprehensible, but it is hard to tell the people that pay for roads that they have to jumo through hops to use them.

 

[Delinquent]

Agreed in principle, FL drivers are reprehensible, but it is hard to tell the people that pay for roads that they have to jumo through hops to use them.

eh good point which is something I still don't agree with. I mean, as a Floridian, you know that the reason why tolls were implemented were to pay for the roads themselves yet the tolls are still in place when we all know that the roads themselves have long been paid for. I can buy the whole maintenance excuse for a while but not this long. The DOT itself should be privatized IMO. Do you agree?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

eh good point which is something I still don't agree with. I mean, as a Floridian, you know that the reason why tolls were implemented were to pay for the roads themselves yet the tolls are still in place when we all know that the roads themselves have long been paid for. I can buy the whole maintenance excuse for a while but not this long. The DOT itself should be privatized IMO. Do you agree?

Most road building could be privatized.

This was actually done (to an extent) in NY under the direction of a guy named Robert Moses. It can work.