Police Visit

[gotbustedagain]

yesterday I got a visit from som health dept investigators who inquired about a doc in long island for hrt. I drive to see the guy, have a normal doc-patient relationship but they were trying to get me to admit otherwise. Anyone in NY have any similar experience other than shooter? I'm not talking but what's up their sleeve?

 

[perp69]

Just change where you receive your "deliviries". mailboxes etc. requires an id, but it dosn't have to be govt. issued. fake i.d.s are cheap and easy to find. Have someone get you a P.O. box in there name and give you the key. You can even pay for the po box a year at a time so it won't cost them anything and neither of you will have to be in contact with anyone. Your mail won't be in there name and they want be picking it up so they have no worries. Don't file a change of address just let specific mail go to the box. on larger packages the post office will put a pick up slip in your box. you take that slip to the desk. you will be asked to sign for it but I have never had to show id. or just have it delivered to a different address and name. Your address is what has been flagged if anything. just some ideas.

What do you do when the cops go to that person and ask him why he has been getting steroids mailed to his box for x number of times. That person will be in a bad position. Not exactly a no worries situation. Assuming that person is someone you know cause I can't imagine a stranger do that for you he is either going to have to give you up or go down for it.

Perp

 

[heatherrae]

Don't ever consent to a search again without a search warrant. GET AN ATTORNEY! If they want you to testify, make them subpoena you. Quit talking to these cops!!!! If they come to question you say that if they want to talk to you, you want your lawyer present. Don't say shit to them without a lawyer. I personally would have you plead the fifth amendment if they tried to get you to testify at a grand jury.

Sounds like the DA has a bug in his/her ear about these clinics. I sure as hell wouldn't help them out, though. You have NOTHING to gain and everything to lose.

Bottom line, stop talking to the cops and consenting to searches.

 

[dline]

Don't ever consult to a search again without a search warrant. GET AN ATTORNEY! If they want you to testify, make them subpoena you. Quit talking to these cops!!!! If they come to question you say that if they want to talk to you, you want your lawyer present. Don't say shit to them without a lawyer. I personally would have you plead the fifth amendment if they tried to get you to testify at a grand jury.

Sounds like the DA has a bug in his/her ear about these clinics. I sure as hell wouldn't help them out, though. You have NOTHING to gain and everything to lose.

Bottom line, stop talking to the cops and consenting to searches.

BOOYAH, heatherrae = Beauty and Brains. a 1, 2 knockout!!!


DLine

 

[BigCracker]

As an update to my situation....

I met with the DA and cop to answer some more questions. I was questioned in front of the DA but only as a witness. The DA indicated that they are going after the big fish (HRT & Pharmacy) and will not charge me. I answered all their questions and fully cooperated with them being as honest as I could. I left the DA's office with no charges and hopefully this is all behind me.

What is sad about this is that I was trying to do everything by the book. The situation almost forces people to go to illegitimet means to get the med's they need. How ironic.

You fucked up big time. Because you didn't execute your rights because you were at work, you totally fucked yourself from step 1. Because of your helpful demeanor they pressed you further while conning you into believing that they won't charge you when the truth is they have up to 7-10 yrs to charge you with a crime iof they want. The cooperation that they asked of you was another mistake. By giving consent to search your home they have extra ammo to use against you in court now. If they didn't have much on you before-they sure do now. Good job dumbass!!! As far as the reasons the cops are giving you for their investigation I'd say it's 90% bullshit. Cops often ruse you into thinking they're investigating something else other than what they tell you to get you to open up even more. Even if the cops aren't lying to you, you still have to be concerned if/when the feds come in. They didn't make you any promises(yet) so why shouldn't they bust you? Especially since they now have a police report from the locals stating how you knowingly/admittedly possessed AS in your home. As far as the grand Jury goes, (if they aren't lying to you), plan on spending hours upon hours of your time testifying in legal depositions putting the so called "kingpin" behind bars. If he's a dangerous criminal you could get whacked-or at least be under protective custody/surveilance until the trial is over. If it's really the Drs theyre after this probably won't be a concern-but ya never know. Drs have big $$$ and if you know the right people you can have someone whacked for a pizza and a 6 pack. Of course the number of people willing to do this increases exponentially as the price offered to do the hit gets higher-and Drs are usually loaded-food for thought.

OK, now that I've told you what a moron you are, here's your options.

1. pray that it's over quick and that if you do get charged with all of the things you incriminated yourself for and it's just probation. Pray the don't recharge you again to squeeze more 411 out of you in the future Even if you get off-expect a call from the cops anyway. They think you're soft, so they'll keep asking you for 411 until you tell them to fuck off.

2. Hire a criminal lawyer-which is gonna run you about $5000 retainer to take your case and likely another $5000-$15000 if it goes to trial-and there's still a chance you could lose. This is still your best bet at this point. If $$$ is a problem you get a public defender that like plays golf with the DA every weekend(think about it-they' both on the same payroll)so don't plan on getting a killer plea bargain out of it.

Next time make a scene at work and exercise your constitutional rights. It amazes me how many guys commit crimes involving AS and they are clueless about the charges or how to respond to the cop knock on the door. I love how guys believe that cops are straight up. FYI-the only time a cop is not allowed to lie is in court, and even then they still will lie under oath if they want the case to stick bad enough.

 

[mobro]

What do you do when the cops go to that person and ask him why he has been getting steroids mailed to his box for x number of times. That person will be in a bad position. Not exactly a no worries situation. Assuming that person is someone you know cause I can't imagine a stranger do that for you he is either going to have to give you up or go down for it.

Perp

lawyer PLEASE. HE HASN'T PICKED UP ANYTHING. THEY CAN'T MAKE HIM TELL THEM ANYTHING. JUST TELL THEM NO THANKS. IF HE DOESN'T HAVE IT IN HIS HANDS THEY ONLY HAVE SUSPICIONS. WHICH THEY CAN TALK TO YOUR LAWYER ABOUT. HAVE A NICE DAY SIR.

 

[BigCracker]

lawyer PLEASE. HE HASN'T PICKED UP ANYTHING. THEY CAN'T MAKE HIM TELL THEM ANYTHING. JUST TELL THEM NO THANKS. IF HE DOESN'T HAVE IT IN HIS HANDS THEY ONLY HAVE SUSPICIONS. WHICH THEY CAN TALK TO YOUR LAWYER ABOUT. HAVE A NICE DAY SIR.

He's right. I don't care if they catch you with 10 bottles of test in your pocket with your name stamped on them-you deny ever knowing that they were there. Remember, it doesn't matter how guilty you "look" to the cops, it still needs to be proved in court. Therefore you are best off denying any knowledge of the contents of your pocket regardless of how guilty you "look" at the time. Sure the cops will get pissed that you're lying. Let them be pissed. You're already fucked. They're trained to be that way so you'll be scared into admitting guilt and fucking yourself out of a fair trial. Once you fess up, you'll be less likely to get a plea bargain, or at least one that you can live with.

 

[Kabeetz]

In the meantime keep posting here and referencing your use until they confiscate your hard drives, and subpoena your ISP, that should be fun for all.

 

[Mavafanculo]

how did they know "you did a bad thing again?"

are they looking at your payment records/credit cards/etc?

were they coincidently looking at both the different HRT clinics (unlikely)?

 

[JetCityDude]

This is a continuation to my other thread where I was working with an HRT (Clinic A) clinic and the police came and confiscated my AAS because I did not have a legit doctor-patient relationship.

To prevent myself from getting into trouble again, I went to another clinic (different state, Clinic B) and did a ton of research to make sure that are legit and insisted that I see their doctor face-to-face. Clinic B indicated that they are a true medical office not some fly-by-night operation. They have a satellite office nearby which I visited.

I did the following:

1. Personally saw the doctor where we talked for a good 2 hours where he did a physical examination and took my vitals.
2. I provided the doctor with my lab results that I done prior to start HRT therapy. This is important, my baseline testosterone levels clearly indicate that I am out of the range (226) and that I have a medical neccessity for AAS.
3. I paid the clinic directly for this visit, not the doctor that I visited.
4. No prescription was issued to me during the dr. visit where I was supposed to call the clinic afterwards to see what RX the doctor wanted to prescribe.
5. I called later day and was informed that the doctor wanted to put me on Test E & HGH. I elected only Test E.
6. I ordered the Test E through their pharmacy that they do business with where I received the med's a couple of days later.

Now the police show up again at my work saying that I did a bad thing again. I explained my entire situation to them at work. I know you guys would say to tell the cop to take a hike but it was not that easy as I am at work and didn't want to jeopardize that or cause a scene.

The cops asked to do an inspection at my home where they went through everything. FYI, I have legitimet prescriptions for all my gear. During this inspection, I show them 3 bottles of Test E & 3 bottles of HCG. The Test E & HCG bottles were issued by a legit pharmacy.

The cop says that he is NOT going to charge me and wants me to answer further questions in a few days in front of grand jury & district attorney which I believe for their on-going investigation of the HRT clinics & pharmacy. The cop leaves me with all my bottles of Test E but takes only ONE of the HCG bottles (Clinic A issued) that I had from an earlier RX working with the other HRT clinic that I suspect are not on legit level. To summarize, cop leaves me all Test E bottles and 2 out of the 3 HCG med's.

My questions are:

(1) Cop says that he is NOT going to charge me and still left me my AAS. I think I'm out of the woods, what do you think?
(2) Questions in front of the Grand Jury, is something to be concerned about?
(3) Where did I break the law?
(4) This is the 2nd time that I received a visit from the cops. The only commonality is the pharmacy; Clinic A & B use the same pharmacy. I know Clinic B keeps good records & protects them, so how did the cops find out about this again? I'm thinking they are investigating the pharmacy since he seems only focused on RX issued by this pharmacy.

This is frustrating the hell out of me and also wrecking my nerves. I certainly don't deal or abuse the AAS and am looking to treat my medical condition in the best way possible, that's it! Bottom line, what did I do that is illegal or unethical that criminal action can be taken against me?

Hmmm, looks like these events have unfolded based on yesterday's news of the pharmacy in Florida.