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not to sweat is the key.
If you look like a juicer they will think about it. Remember they biuld a 'book' on you that carries though till you get your number. even if you said 'NO' and pass a piss test, someone they interview might 'suggest' it. Then its a probing question. Have buds in the academy that were on deca, and they passed.
Always depends on city/state too. Some can give a shit, other its a big issue if the department has had problems.
Think 'I did not inhale' Works for Prez.
Best of luck ... welcome to club.
If you look like a juicer they will think about it. Remember they biuld a 'book' on you that carries though till you get your number. even if you said 'NO' and pass a piss test, someone they interview might 'suggest' it. Then its a probing question. Have buds in the academy that were on deca, and they passed.
Always depends on city/state too. Some can give a shit, other its a big issue if the department has had problems.
Think 'I did not inhale' Works for Prez.
Best of luck ... welcome to club.
Police departments in the UK do not test for steroids. I would imagine USA doesn't either. The use of recreational drugs spreads to the whole of the population. Anyone could have taken or are taking cannabis, cocaine, barbituates etc. But steroid abuse is restricted to a minority. A drug test for this would be inappropriate and expensive. I would imagine this is only used when an officer is suspected of steroid abuse and under some sort of investigation. This has been known, and, if they are long serving, they are simply given therapy and are back on the streets in no time. I have seen this first hand.
As far as poly's go, it's well known that it takes a special person to be able to control emotions under pressure, and even more so thought processes. It's practically impossible, this is why the poly test is so accurate. Answers are one worded because any more than that and they cannot get an accurate representation of your pulse rate etc. Also if someone is nervous from the start they will see this, and will only continue when you are calm. If one persists in using some sort of 'tac' method to remain nervous, then they will be suspicious and it will be unlikely you will get the job. In all honesty i'm really amazed that they use poly's in USA or anywhere for that matter. Even murder suspects are not compelled to take a poly. I'm sure there is some ethics issue with this. Poly's cause extreme stress. I'm suprised this is allowed, especially in these times.
As for Ronnie Coleman, he's no longer a cop. I'm suprised people still don't know this.
As for the guy that was questioned by a detective........because you were applying to the police!!! ??They haven't got better things to do than question every guy that applies to the police?? I'm amazed. USA is a crazy place.
Peace
As far as poly's go, it's well known that it takes a special person to be able to control emotions under pressure, and even more so thought processes. It's practically impossible, this is why the poly test is so accurate. Answers are one worded because any more than that and they cannot get an accurate representation of your pulse rate etc. Also if someone is nervous from the start they will see this, and will only continue when you are calm. If one persists in using some sort of 'tac' method to remain nervous, then they will be suspicious and it will be unlikely you will get the job. In all honesty i'm really amazed that they use poly's in USA or anywhere for that matter. Even murder suspects are not compelled to take a poly. I'm sure there is some ethics issue with this. Poly's cause extreme stress. I'm suprised this is allowed, especially in these times.
As for Ronnie Coleman, he's no longer a cop. I'm suprised people still don't know this.
As for the guy that was questioned by a detective........because you were applying to the police!!! ??They haven't got better things to do than question every guy that applies to the police?? I'm amazed. USA is a crazy place.
Peace
fifteyfive91
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I've been a cop for seven years, so here's my bit of advice (which turned into a dissertation)...hope it helps. I work for a midsize agency (app. 1600 officers) so they basically test for the common drugs of abuse (ie. cocaine, mj, etc...). Testing for anabolics is something of a specific nature that would be cost prohibitive when testing two hundred guys for each open position, so as far as the chemical part of the process I don't think you need to sweat it too much. As far as the polygraph, this is what I would recommend.
Putting aside our personal views on the subject, AS are illegal in the U.S. If you admit to using them regularly you may get disqualified. (Although I hope it works out for ItalMonster). Make a decision before you enter the polygraph room if you are going to categorically deny or admit. Before the actual test you will have a long interview with the polygraph tech. The polygraph tech is most likely going to be a veteran detective, who has spent years talking guys into admitting shit that sent them to jail for years. If you try and play games with him, he will see through your b.s. in a second. Either complete denial or admit openly (ie. forget about Mexico use, one time in high school or anything else like that...AS are not recreational drugs where you would just try them to see what happens or out of peer pressure...they know this). After the interview he will administer the test. The test will be approximately ten questions, all requiring a yes or no answer. Before the ten questions he will ask you three, maybe four simple questions(name, addr, etc). These are questions which will norm you and provide them a base to judge your later responses against. Everyone who goes in the room is gonna be nervous, no matter if he's lying or not. The technique you might wanna use other guys have touched on already. Basically you want to raise the tension in your body during the "norming" questions and and remain as calm as possible during the other questions. I would try restricting the anal sphincter over the tac method simply because if your somehow caught with that tac you are completely out of gas. They will know what your doing and you can forget about being the police in that jurisdiction. Believe me most guys get slammed before they even get to the machine because during the interview they try and b.s. the poly tech and he takes their lies and forces them into trying to give facts based on those lies which is impossible. That's why I said your better off deciding ahead of time for a blanket denial or not. One last thing...if you do deny, look him straight in the eye and do not flinch. He's looking for body language during that interview also. Sorry I got so long winded but I'm trying to give you as complete a picture as I can.
Putting aside our personal views on the subject, AS are illegal in the U.S. If you admit to using them regularly you may get disqualified. (Although I hope it works out for ItalMonster). Make a decision before you enter the polygraph room if you are going to categorically deny or admit. Before the actual test you will have a long interview with the polygraph tech. The polygraph tech is most likely going to be a veteran detective, who has spent years talking guys into admitting shit that sent them to jail for years. If you try and play games with him, he will see through your b.s. in a second. Either complete denial or admit openly (ie. forget about Mexico use, one time in high school or anything else like that...AS are not recreational drugs where you would just try them to see what happens or out of peer pressure...they know this). After the interview he will administer the test. The test will be approximately ten questions, all requiring a yes or no answer. Before the ten questions he will ask you three, maybe four simple questions(name, addr, etc). These are questions which will norm you and provide them a base to judge your later responses against. Everyone who goes in the room is gonna be nervous, no matter if he's lying or not. The technique you might wanna use other guys have touched on already. Basically you want to raise the tension in your body during the "norming" questions and and remain as calm as possible during the other questions. I would try restricting the anal sphincter over the tac method simply because if your somehow caught with that tac you are completely out of gas. They will know what your doing and you can forget about being the police in that jurisdiction. Believe me most guys get slammed before they even get to the machine because during the interview they try and b.s. the poly tech and he takes their lies and forces them into trying to give facts based on those lies which is impossible. That's why I said your better off deciding ahead of time for a blanket denial or not. One last thing...if you do deny, look him straight in the eye and do not flinch. He's looking for body language during that interview also. Sorry I got so long winded but I'm trying to give you as complete a picture as I can.
FriarFuckk
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Law Enforcement / Steroid use
The biggest problem you will have is like most people have stated is the Polygraph, which about 85% to 90% Dept's do. Forget all the shit about a tack in your shoe or curling your toes, if you are serious about passing the polygraph and getting a job go to www.polygraph.com all you need to know about passing that piece of shit test is on that WS. Once you know how to get pass that test as long as you have never been arrested for steroids, LIE LIE LIE in your background invest. Whatever you have done in your lifetime all that background investigator needs to know is that you experimented with Marijuana 5 or less times while you were in High school or College, no California Agency will EVER hire you if they know you have done Acid, Shrooms, Peyote, or even some forms of Cocaine or Meth. If you tell them you have never done any drug, they will think that you are lying even if you are telling the truth. With the exception of LAPD and LASO I haven't heard of any Agency testing for steroids (thank god!) they only test for Narcotics in your blood. Your psychological test is hit or miss, if they don't like that you don't get along with your Father or think that you are to aggressive they will fail you, most of the time that is the last step though so you will have nothing to worry about.
I don't know what state you're in but California has the highest standards of all states for hiring Law Enforcement. I am not going to say whether I am working or have worked in Law Enforcement for obvious reasons, but I will tell you this, about 50% maybe more Cops,Deputys,etc have done or are currently juicing. It's funny cause there are so many people paraniod about Cops and 'roids, from my experience unless your standing in the street shooting some Sustanon in your ass most Cops have much, much better things to do that bullshit is left for the DEA and FBI. After all I have never seen anybody rob a store for more Deca.........not saying it couldn't happen, HELL... if I keep paying what I am paying I'm kinda thinking about taking down the corner 7-11!!
Hope I helped you out.........GOOD LUCK!!!
The biggest problem you will have is like most people have stated is the Polygraph, which about 85% to 90% Dept's do. Forget all the shit about a tack in your shoe or curling your toes, if you are serious about passing the polygraph and getting a job go to www.polygraph.com all you need to know about passing that piece of shit test is on that WS. Once you know how to get pass that test as long as you have never been arrested for steroids, LIE LIE LIE in your background invest. Whatever you have done in your lifetime all that background investigator needs to know is that you experimented with Marijuana 5 or less times while you were in High school or College, no California Agency will EVER hire you if they know you have done Acid, Shrooms, Peyote, or even some forms of Cocaine or Meth. If you tell them you have never done any drug, they will think that you are lying even if you are telling the truth. With the exception of LAPD and LASO I haven't heard of any Agency testing for steroids (thank god!) they only test for Narcotics in your blood. Your psychological test is hit or miss, if they don't like that you don't get along with your Father or think that you are to aggressive they will fail you, most of the time that is the last step though so you will have nothing to worry about.
I don't know what state you're in but California has the highest standards of all states for hiring Law Enforcement. I am not going to say whether I am working or have worked in Law Enforcement for obvious reasons, but I will tell you this, about 50% maybe more Cops,Deputys,etc have done or are currently juicing. It's funny cause there are so many people paraniod about Cops and 'roids, from my experience unless your standing in the street shooting some Sustanon in your ass most Cops have much, much better things to do that bullshit is left for the DEA and FBI. After all I have never seen anybody rob a store for more Deca.........not saying it couldn't happen, HELL... if I keep paying what I am paying I'm kinda thinking about taking down the corner 7-11!!
Hope I helped you out.........GOOD LUCK!!!
