Plifter Is A HATER.....

[plifter]

Just to jump in on the religious arguments

Plifter:What arguments do you bring forward to not believe in the exsitence of GOD??

Better yet, what arguments do you bring forward to show that there is a god?

 

[TxCollegeguy]

ok here is a few simple arguments...They are flawed but also something worth thinking about

The Argument from Design

1. Nature everywhere ehibits order
2. Order requires a designer
3. Therfore, There is a designer of nature
4. The Designer of Nature is God
5. Therefore, God exists

I choose to believe the Theory of Evolution could be suitable with the belief in God


Pascal's Wager

1. The Evidence and arguments for and against God's existence are an inadequate basis for even rational belief or logical belief.
2. Yet we are forced to choose--to bet our lives--either that God exists or that God doesn't exist.
3. Thus, we must choose on grounds other than the evidence and arguments.
4. If someon bets that God exists and God exists, then that person wins everlasting happiness in heaven.
5. If someone bets that God does not exist and GOd exists, then that person will suffer for eternity in hell.
6. If someone bets that God exists and God does not exist, then that person has lost nothing.
7. If someone bets that God does not exist and God does not exist, then that person has gained nothing
8. Thus, a person has nothing to gain and everything to lose by betting that God does not exists
9. However, a person has everything to gain and nothing to lose by betting that God exists
10. Thus a person is better off Believing in God.


Also if your interested in arguments for or against the belief in God try reading books about Thomas Aquinas, and Swinburne's Theodicy

None of this is a flawless argument just rather an argument for the existence of God

 

[Yellowbomber]

make peace bros

 

[plifter]

Sorry, collegeguy, but those arguments are pretty weak. there is no evidence one way or another. I always believed people created gods to explain what they don't understand. I mean the Greeks had many gods that were in control of various things. I mean Atlas was supposed to be holding up the World. Who believes that now?
I'm not trying to be a flamer or start an argument, I just don't believe.

 

[Yellowbomber]

Wise Words

 

[TxCollegeguy]

good points, I stated they were flawed arguments.
By no means am I trying to tell you what to believe in, I was just curious about why you believe the way you do.

 

[Yellowbomber]

why don't you date and fight?

 

[TxCollegeguy]

I'm not sure what actions God would take either way...Those are just arguments, I apoligize if they have upset anyone cause it wasn't intended to do so. As far as it being insurance to believe or not thats up to each person to determine themselves.

 

[Jimsbbc]

Next thing you know, there will be a movement to ban PLifter, then May, then anyone who goes against the norm on this board. We will see how interesting it is then.

 

[liftsiron]

One day sure as shit each one of us will discover if there is a god or not.