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Please help with 1st time cycle

Fatboy1984

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Im 24 years old 5.9 185 pounds. Eat super clean. and been doing all this for about 2 years consistanly. I will never stop lifting. Ive takin alittle bit of M1T and have got descent gains from it in the past. Besides that i have never takin or cycled any injectables.
I would like to be in the 190-200 pound range with as low of BF as possible. and also gain as much strench as possible.
Im thinkin about an 8-10 week cycle of sustanon 250 and Deca-Durobolin
Maybe once a week injections of 300mg (unless it would be better too cut them in half and do twice a week)
And for the deca i was thinkin i should start at 100mg per week and work my way up too 300-400 on week 4 and than taper back down again.
I will for sure have Nolva on hand if i feel nipple soreness.
And will take clomid for my PCT afterwards. I will also be eating about 4000 cals of clean healthy food lots of protien. Hoping that i can gain with this but not get to fat.

My questions are. Doesn anyone see anything wrong with this cycle? Im alittle nervous about it.
Do you think ill have to take the nolva? what percentage of you guys start to have signs of Gyno?
Im not going to be a lifelong user. I just would like to get a certain way and maintain as much muscle and strenth as possible. From my research it looks like i can keep majority of my gains from these two steroids.
Also would anyone recomend, just injecting the sustanon 250, and just using orral deca?
Last question, where is the safest place i can order good quality gear and seringes from, with nolva and clomid. I would like to make my order from the same place. And want high quality gear.
Sorry for all the questions. I really appreciate anyone who takes the time to help me out here.
 
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There's a few changes I'd make but 1st, ^^^^^ age?
 
I would run Testosterone 400MG weekly and Deca 300MG weekly for 10 weeks. Low dose of Arimidex .25 every 3 .

PCT Nolvadex 20 mg's every day 2 weeks after your last injection
 
so just start with 300 of deca. You dont think theres any reason to work my way up? You think nolva is better for PCT than clomid? Even if there is no nipple soreness or signs of gyno, you think i should still take arimidex .25 every third day?
Just want to make sure im doing everything right And id like to make this order asap once i know how much of everything i need.
Thanks for your help
 
I'd never use deca.


Here's a challenge. Take this every day...

4 caps of Beastdrol

6 caps of UNLEASHED

2 caps 19-Tren

Two servings of BIG BLAST

6 hard boiled eggs

If you're training is on point, you can put on 10 pounds of muscle in 2 months.

Now I ask you this -- do you want to grow? Or do you just want to do steroids?
 
i Want to grow muscle i will keep. and i have grown. I went from 144 too 202 but now that ive lost my fat i about 185. But ive lost alot of strengh. I want to to steroids to gain strengh back fast, and gain muscle without getting really fat.
 
No theres no need to taper. If your dead set on test AND deca, why not 300 test/200 deca? More isnt better. Especially for a first timer. You will grow off whatever you use at whatever dose as long as you eat and train correctly. Alot of people seem to think nowadays that even 200mg/wk of something like cyp is a total waste. I seem to remember using that dose 10 years ago and growing from it.
 
Awsome. Im not dead set on sus and deca. But it sounded good to me. Also seems that with these two the gains are alittle more solid than some others. also seems if the test dries out my joints it sounds like the deca might help. Im tempted to try tren too though. But it seems like with these two i should get where i want. Im open to other opinions though. Where do you think the calories should be if im triing to gain weight, but not get fat? i was thinkin 4000, Does that sound about right, do you think i could gain weight, withough gaining fat?
 
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