Please help! My Bloodwork is terrible!

[geoffgarst]

I think the GGT would be a wise investment. That is true that bodybuilders will have elevated liver functions as well as elevated renal panels just due to the fact that more proteins and aminos are being metabolized and your liver will be working harder. However, I think your tests come back fairly high and should be looked at closer. I do a lot of Liver Ultrasounds for liver damage/cirrhosis on my patients with high liver functions. Monitoring is the key and establishing a baseline. I still would recommend getting the GGT, then coming off of the AS. Then recheck in 4 weeks. If it comes down, then you know your liver is working harder to metabolize the AS.

Geoff

 

[ROID WARRIOR]

Don't go overboard. Your doctor should have told you that one isolated ALT reading is not indicative of a problem. Although your doctor was on the mark and gets credit for being aware that hard-training can elevate this reading. Many times I've had elevated liver enzymes on one test to only find them normal on a subsequent test.

BTW, alcohol is not the only causative factor in cirrhosis. Cirrhosis is defined as a widespread disruption of normal liver structure by fibrosis and the formation of regenerative nodules that is caused by any of various chronic progressive conditions affecting the liver (as long term alcohol abuse or hepatitis). As an aside, I know a girl who suffered liver damage from taking Tylenol PM on a nighly basis because she suffered from insomnia.

In any event, you should be commended for having blood work done. I doubt many others do. I'm just curious: how's your total cholesterol and HDL/LDL ratio?

RW

 

[ripper911]

whats the difference between Free test and Other test in the testing?

 

[thx9000]

whats the difference between Free test and Other test in the testing?

You have free test, weakly bound test and test bound to SHBG. The free test is just that, free to do its work. The weakly bound test is bound to the protein albumin but this bond isn't all that strong and the test can be readily be made available. Thus you can think of the free and weakly bound test as the total bio-available test. The test that's bound to SHBG is strongly bound and thus cannot be made readily available for anything interesting. Add all these tests together and you get your total test.

Think I have that right, but I will look for a link to confirm it...

 

[Generic MALE]

I had a person tell me earlier: "How can you tell the difference between muscle fiber damage, and liver damage?" You can't by just taking the AST & ALT test. You have to take a GGT test to determine if your liver is truly stressed/damaged.

Not really true. GGt tends to elevate more with biliary tree obstruction, and does not tend to elevate with intrahepatic necrosis (death) although there may still be substantial damage. Alkaline phosphatase is a better indicator or rather correlates better with ALT and AST in order to form a differential diagnosis. Also PTT is considered almost a gold standard for determining if there is liver damage when AST and ALT are elevated. GGT is also secreted by the pancreas and other organs. The blood tests really are more of a screening - if they suspect liver damage they should next do an ultrasound or CT scan. IF that indicates infiltration, necrosis, cysts etc then they would probably elect to do a biopsy.

But very well if you add something to "detoxify" you liver like Tylers your levels will be normal within a few weeks. But I think Tylers is pricey for what you get - a little bit of calcium d glucurate (CDG) a smidgen of n-acetyl cysteine (NAC) and then a tub full of plain old vitamins. I think a person is better off buying vitamins and then buying calcium D glucurate and N acetyl cysteine on their own. CDG and NAC are the ingredients that really do something for phase I and phase II detoxification of the liver although B vitamins like pantothenic acid are also crucial for proper liver detoxification. 500 mg of CDG and 1000 mg of NAC and you will see liver values improve quickly. Orally administered NAC is the gold standard for medical treatment to prevent liver necrosis caused by tylenol poisoning in the mergency room.

 

[Generic MALE]

You would be surprised at how high the ALT and AST would be on the guys just finishing the Tour De'France-not from AS but from muscle exertion. Some of them get rhabdomyolysis even.

 

[RichGenetics]

Well I have some of the Tylers on order, and it should be here in a couple of days. Thank you all for the responses. I am not going to worry myself to death over this, because there is nothing i can do but learn from this mistake. I have stopped all 17aa's and will not take them again for a long time. I will have my blood tested in a month to see how well the tylers detox has worked. Thanks guys. I hope i havent fucked myself.