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Wootoom said:
ok
the treadmill
Faizakafez
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Stretching and ice will help alot. In my experience it is not your shin that is the problem. The pain actually starts in the ankle, as the ankle swells it released upwards into the shin. This is why the stretch Kneel down while sitting all the way down as low as you can. Toes pointing back, you should get a nice gentle stretch on the shins.
there is a ointment you can get at some pharmacies and vet supply stores....it is called horse litament, comes in a yellow bottle and smels like shit, it will cure your problem...i had them for years and after applying that before i went running it worked wonders, the first couple times it just helped then after using it daily they were completly gone after a month...
there is a ointment you can get at some pharmacies and vet supply stores....it is called horse litament, comes in a yellow bottle and smels like shit, it will cure your problem...i had them for years and after applying that before i went running it worked wonders, the first couple times it just helped then after using it daily they were completly gone after a month...
mightymouse69 said:
A simple exercise would be, e.g., sit on the bench and place a 25, 35 or 45 on the ground and place your toes under it. Lift the plate in a movement that's not unlike that one does when tapping one's foot.
The tibialis anterior is the muslce that runs along the front of the shin, that is, it's opposite of the calf mucle.
This worked for me when I had painful pumps when walking in the area of my body (thought it was shin splints at first).
HTH
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=721&highlight=shin
This is back when I was having a problem.
This is back when I was having a problem.
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samoth said:
A simple exercise would be, e.g., sit on the bench and place a 25, 35 or 45 on the ground and place your toes under it. Lift the plate in a movement that's not unlike that one does when tapping one's foot.
The tibialis anterior is the muslce that runs along the front of the shin, that is, it's opposite of the calf mucle.
This worked for me when I had painful pumps when walking in the area of my body (thought it was shin splints at first).
HTH
see above!
Faizakafez
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wtf karma me slut!
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mightymouse69 said:
I heart you now!
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Wootoom said:
sorry sexy... 3somes can be fun
digimon7068
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run up hill backwards. . .no. . .i'm not joking you fucking canuck. . .
digimon7068
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Wootoom said:good idea
i'm serious. . .it works. . .
digimon7068
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As a part of my rehab, before I was allowed to run forwards I had to master the art of running backwards. I know this sounds relatively easy but it’s physically and mentally challenging. Physically because but it isolates the muscles you should be using and all of a suddenly walking backwards up an inclined treadmill quite slowly is very very hard work. The mental challenge comes because to all intents and purposes you just shouldn’t be going that way….the treadmill band is going forwards, you are facing forwards, but you are actually going backwards – thank god for the harness and the rail to grab hold of! All this time and effort got me to the finish line of my first triathlon – the London Super Sprint 2005 - and I finished 6th overall. I couldn’t believe it, my supporters couldn’t believe it and now I’m hooked!
from. . . http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cach...plints+run+backwards&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
but learned it in highschool track. . .trust me
from. . . http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cach...plints+run+backwards&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
but learned it in highschool track. . .trust me
Faizakafez
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also wooot you said u were concerned with muscle loss running is not a good choice
Faizakafez
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Weights are excellent
but cardio should be low intensity like walking on high incline ...
220-age X 70%= ( the hear-rate for fat burning)
but cardio should be low intensity like walking on high incline ...
220-age X 70%= ( the hear-rate for fat burning)
Faizakafez
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okay.. but are you doing short rest and super sets? the faster/harder you train the 'less' cardio u will have to do...
but again like i said low intensity cardio with that formula i gave you.. running is not needed.
but again like i said low intensity cardio with that formula i gave you.. running is not needed.
Faizakafez
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calories burned is useless ..your concered in to tapping into the fat cells.. and burn ur skin shirt you have on...
you could do HITT if you like thats a bit diffrent.
you could do HITT if you like thats a bit diffrent.
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Hawt...^^^
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yea.. im totally nude...
just sayin...
just sayin...
Faizakafez
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LOL lol
do it... you cna cover your self in post it notes!
do it... you cna cover your self in post it notes!
bigmann245
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i have the same problem and for me the only solution was using the low impact elliptical machine and bicycle. other than that guys like us cant take the constant pounding running has on our lower legs.
Wootoom said:
I ran track in high school and college and had shin splints off and on for years. The "cure" is to build up those muscles with toe raises and calf exercises. Shin splints are due to an imbalance between the muscles that lift the foot and those that pull it down so you need to hit both muscle groups to fatigue equally.
Here's a good link for info on shin splints.
http://www.thefinalsprint.com/2006/11/shin-splints-what-a-pain-in-the-leg/
BigRupe said:
Huh. My doc told me that real shin splints are actually microfractures of the bone(s) and a much more serious problem than the more common muscular disbalance between the tibialis anterior and the gastrocnemis, which is a separate problem. It's been a while, though, and I might not be remembering things perfectly.
Specific conditions
Overused Muscle
One cause is overused muscle, either an acute injury or DOMS (delayed-onset muscle soreness). The muscle pain is caused by any activity that involves running, jumping, and sometimes even swimming. An individual not accustomed to running may experience pain in the shin muscles the next day even after a single, short bout of intense running. There may even be immediate discomfort in the muscles from a build-up of lactic acid.
Inflammation of Connective Tissue
Shin pain may also be the result of inflammation of connective tissue such as periosteum (periostitis). The pain may be caused by a stress fracture in the bone or some other problem like osteosarcoma. Pain in the lower leg may also be referred from a distant area of the body, such as pressure on the sciatic nerve (sciatica) near the foot joint.
Chronic Compartment Syndrome
A problem which can mimic anterior shin splints is chronic compartment syndrome (CCS). This is a serious problem which can lead to significant loss of function in the lower leg. CCS occurs when swelling within the indistensible anterior compartment of the leg reduces blood flow. This relative lack of blood, ischemia, can cause more swelling and generate a positive feedback loop. In severe cases the result can be acute compartment syndrome (ACS) which requires emergency surgery to prevent ischemic muscle necrosis, muscle death due to lack of blood.
Diagnosis
Think of CCS when pain worsens steadily during exercise rather than improving as the ligaments and muscles warm. Tingling in the foot is a particular red flag; it indicates compression of the nerve.
If a bone problem is suspected to be causing inflammation of connective tissue, a bone scan can be useful in confirming the diagnosis.
Causes
The purpose of the muscles of the anterior shin (tibialis anterior) is to dorsiflex the foot (raise the toe). It may not be obvious why a muscle which raises the toe can be stressed or injured by running, given that it is not responsible for propulsion. The reason is that unskilled runners overstride, and land heavily on the heel with each footstrike. When this happens, the forefoot rapidly slaps down to the ground. Effectively, the foot, which is dorsiflexed prior to making contact with the ground, is forcefully extended. This forceful extension of the toe causes a corresponding rapid stretch in the attached muscles. A reflex in the muscles responds, causing a powerful contraction. It is this eccentric contraction which leads to muscle soreness and possible injury to the muscle, tendon or connective tissue.
In a similar way, improper pronation of the foot during the footstrike can also cause pain in the muscles which oppose pronation, on the inside or outside of the shin. In proper pronation the foot strikes the ground on the outside of the heel and then rolls toward the inside of the foot approximately 5%. The ideal degree of pronation varies slightly with the individual. It is determined by factors such as the height of the arch (a higher arch has more clearance for pronation than a low arch) and the flexibility of the arch. In over pronation, the foot rolls in too far. The result is that the foot pushes off almost entirely from the big toe, causing excessive strain on the big toe and the outside of the shin. In contrast, under pronation occurs when the foot does not roll enough. This causes the entire weight of the foot strike to concentrate on too small an area on the outside of the foot, which places a corresponding strain on the shin.
It is also commonly believed that a contributing cause of shin muscle pain in some cases is the relative weakness of the muscles on the anterior of the lower leg compared to those in the calf. In this case, exercises that preferentially strengthen the anterior muscles may help alleviate or avoid shin splints. The shin pain is attributed to a forced extension of the muscle, in this case by the opposing calf muscles which "overpower" the shin.
Bikers who have to use their feet to change gears or apply brakes can suffer from shin splints after long rides.
Treatment and prognosis
CCS
If you suspect CCS seek medical attention before continuing to train. If you suspect ACS, seek medical attention immediately night or day.
Acute treatment
The immediate treatment for shin splints is rest. Running and other strenuous lower limb activities like soccer and other sports which include flexing the muscle, should be avoided until the pain subsides and is no longer elicited by activity. In conjunction with rest, anti-inflammatory treatments such as icing and drugs such as NSAIDs may be suggested by a doctor or trainer, though there is some controversy over their effectiveness. Some people will use acupuncture to treat shin splints though there has not been any conclusive or comprehensive study in the effects of acupuncture on shin splints.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_splints
Huh, nothing about microfractures there. I'm pretty sure that's what my doc mentioned. Hmm.
Overused Muscle
One cause is overused muscle, either an acute injury or DOMS (delayed-onset muscle soreness). The muscle pain is caused by any activity that involves running, jumping, and sometimes even swimming. An individual not accustomed to running may experience pain in the shin muscles the next day even after a single, short bout of intense running. There may even be immediate discomfort in the muscles from a build-up of lactic acid.
Inflammation of Connective Tissue
Shin pain may also be the result of inflammation of connective tissue such as periosteum (periostitis). The pain may be caused by a stress fracture in the bone or some other problem like osteosarcoma. Pain in the lower leg may also be referred from a distant area of the body, such as pressure on the sciatic nerve (sciatica) near the foot joint.
Chronic Compartment Syndrome
A problem which can mimic anterior shin splints is chronic compartment syndrome (CCS). This is a serious problem which can lead to significant loss of function in the lower leg. CCS occurs when swelling within the indistensible anterior compartment of the leg reduces blood flow. This relative lack of blood, ischemia, can cause more swelling and generate a positive feedback loop. In severe cases the result can be acute compartment syndrome (ACS) which requires emergency surgery to prevent ischemic muscle necrosis, muscle death due to lack of blood.
Diagnosis
Think of CCS when pain worsens steadily during exercise rather than improving as the ligaments and muscles warm. Tingling in the foot is a particular red flag; it indicates compression of the nerve.
If a bone problem is suspected to be causing inflammation of connective tissue, a bone scan can be useful in confirming the diagnosis.
Causes
The purpose of the muscles of the anterior shin (tibialis anterior) is to dorsiflex the foot (raise the toe). It may not be obvious why a muscle which raises the toe can be stressed or injured by running, given that it is not responsible for propulsion. The reason is that unskilled runners overstride, and land heavily on the heel with each footstrike. When this happens, the forefoot rapidly slaps down to the ground. Effectively, the foot, which is dorsiflexed prior to making contact with the ground, is forcefully extended. This forceful extension of the toe causes a corresponding rapid stretch in the attached muscles. A reflex in the muscles responds, causing a powerful contraction. It is this eccentric contraction which leads to muscle soreness and possible injury to the muscle, tendon or connective tissue.
In a similar way, improper pronation of the foot during the footstrike can also cause pain in the muscles which oppose pronation, on the inside or outside of the shin. In proper pronation the foot strikes the ground on the outside of the heel and then rolls toward the inside of the foot approximately 5%. The ideal degree of pronation varies slightly with the individual. It is determined by factors such as the height of the arch (a higher arch has more clearance for pronation than a low arch) and the flexibility of the arch. In over pronation, the foot rolls in too far. The result is that the foot pushes off almost entirely from the big toe, causing excessive strain on the big toe and the outside of the shin. In contrast, under pronation occurs when the foot does not roll enough. This causes the entire weight of the foot strike to concentrate on too small an area on the outside of the foot, which places a corresponding strain on the shin.
It is also commonly believed that a contributing cause of shin muscle pain in some cases is the relative weakness of the muscles on the anterior of the lower leg compared to those in the calf. In this case, exercises that preferentially strengthen the anterior muscles may help alleviate or avoid shin splints. The shin pain is attributed to a forced extension of the muscle, in this case by the opposing calf muscles which "overpower" the shin.
Bikers who have to use their feet to change gears or apply brakes can suffer from shin splints after long rides.
Treatment and prognosis
CCS
If you suspect CCS seek medical attention before continuing to train. If you suspect ACS, seek medical attention immediately night or day.
Acute treatment
The immediate treatment for shin splints is rest. Running and other strenuous lower limb activities like soccer and other sports which include flexing the muscle, should be avoided until the pain subsides and is no longer elicited by activity. In conjunction with rest, anti-inflammatory treatments such as icing and drugs such as NSAIDs may be suggested by a doctor or trainer, though there is some controversy over their effectiveness. Some people will use acupuncture to treat shin splints though there has not been any conclusive or comprehensive study in the effects of acupuncture on shin splints.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_splints
Huh, nothing about microfractures there. I'm pretty sure that's what my doc mentioned. Hmm.
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Get the best RUNNING shoes you can find, the horse stuff is DMSO and it works but you won't want to be using it forever. The stretching/flexibility will help relieve the symptoms most people call shin splints. And balancing the muscle development.
If you are indeed suffering micro fractures you need to get more help than a msg board.
If you are indeed suffering micro fractures you need to get more help than a msg board.
samoth said:Huh. My doc told me that real shin splints are actually microfractures of the bone(s) and a much more serious problem than the more common muscular disbalance between the tibialis anterior and the gastrocnemis, which is a separate problem. It's been a while, though, and I might not be remembering things perfectly.
It's possible, although I never was told that by any physcian (microfractures), but this was 20 years ago! I am sure the diagnosis may be more complete now.
The real pain is plantar fasciitis. I have had that on and off for decades.
Two years ago I was doing mad areobics on my stair climber at home. Many times I didn't even wear any sneakers. Just woke up and did 45 minutes of super kick ass aerobics.
They got so bad I could barely walk.
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