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smb_69

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hey guys, my friend is about to depart on this crazy, IMO, cycle, so I wanted to get some eyes on this before he does it.

he is 37, 260LB, 6'2" a pretty big guy who has done a few cycles in his life. He wants to do 2 back to back of 12 wks

Week 1-12:
750 of Sus /wk
300 tren /wk
150 Winny /wk
210 Var /wk
200 Eq /wk

Week 13-24
Enath 600
Winny tab 120
Suspension 300
Primo 200
Deca 300

Plus 3ius of Gh (Nutropin).

Any thoughts?? To me - this looks a bit strange, but I am a newbee and stick to sus/deca/winny/var/primos of the world.

btw, when should he take GH - in AM or PM?
 
There are a couple of things I don't agree with.
1. Tren and Winny are both hard on the liver, I would not do them together. And winny for 24 weeks is gonna be hard on him too.
2. 200mg of eq a week isn't gonna do anything. He needs to boost that up to at least 600mg a week.
3. Why is he doing enanthate and suspension at the same time. I suggest he drop the suspension and bump the enanthate to 750mg / week. As for as the gh goes, either is fine.
 
hey guys - any more opinions?? I will try one more time. Any advice on using the slow activing ones first and the faster ones last??
 
Actually tren & winny is a killer cycle. Tren is not as hard on the liver as it is on one's colesterol. Make sure he takes proper liver protecters and he should be fine. Definitely limit the winny use to no longer than 6 weeks. I agree with paridhm that 400mg of eq is a minimium and also that he should drop the suspension. Why the need to run back to back 12 weekers? Especially with tren in the first one and deca in the 2nd...He may have serious problems regaining his natural testosterone when those cycles are all said and done.
 
smb_69 said:
hey guys, my friend is about to depart on this crazy, IMO, cycle, so I wanted to get some eyes on this before he does it.

he is 37, 260LB, 6'2" a pretty big guy who has done a few cycles in his life. He wants to do 2 back to back of 12 wks

Week 1-12:
750 of Sus /wk
300 tren /wk
150 Winny /wk
210 Var /wk
200 Eq /wk

Week 13-24
Enath 600
Winny tab 120
Suspension 300
Primo 200
Deca 300

Plus 3ius of Gh (Nutropin).

Any thoughts?? To me - this looks a bit strange, but I am a newbee and stick to sus/deca/winny/var/primos of the world.

btw, when should he take GH - in AM or PM?
300 Tren - Everyday, every other day, everyweek? It is supposed to be used everyday.
Same with the Winstrol, same with the Anavar, same with the Suspension.

"Plus 3IU's of GH" - Once again, how long? Is this everyday?
 
genarr has a point. I can't exactally figure out what his dose and injection frequincy will be on this cycle. Why is he changing test esters halfway through? I don't see the point of that. I also agree that running winstrol for 24 weeks might be a bit harsh on his liver.
 
From the cycle , its apparent that not very much research and thought has went into it.

I would suggest test 500-750 mg/wk for 10 weeks, end of story.

I am curious on what his stats are. Height, weight, BF%.

God I hope it is not another 170lb guy trying to use over a gram of harsh steroids to make it to 175lb.
 
buckwheat1: no, gawd no - he is 6'2", 260lb, 15% bf - pretty good size dude trying to get to the next level. I agree w/you - the cylcle does look strange, that is why I posted it here. My friend says that he does read alot, but.. -:)
 
smb_69 said:
buckwheat1: no, gawd no - he is 6'2", 260lb, 15% bf - pretty good size dude trying to get to the next level. I agree w/you - the cylcle does look strange, that is why I posted it here. My friend says that he does read alot, but.. -:)

Well thats good to know. I just think it is overly complicated. Just go with a few items.

For example:


Test Eth. 750mg/wk 1 - 12
Tren. 75 EOD 1 - 6
EQ 400mg/wk 7 -12


If he wanted to go another 12 weeks, he could repeat.
 
buckwheat1: thanks. Based on the reading and stuff - my suggestion is similar to yours:

Sus 750 /wk 1-12
Tren 100mg EOD 1-6
Winny 50mg EOD 1-6
EQ 400mg/wk 7-12
Var 30mh ED 7-12

Some people loved Tren/Winny and Var/EQ combo.
 
buckwheat, that is similar to my current stack, but a bit higher of a dose. I'm using 100 mg prop ed, 30 mg tren ed, and 200 mg eq once a week, with 1.25 mg letro eod. Its an effective combination.
 
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