Please critique my cycle

[dasgh]

Here it is guys, first cycle, poppin the cherry, etc....

This is still a good month off but Im trying to get everything planned well in advance.

Sust250 Day 1 and 4 then every 5 days, last injection in wk5

Dianabol 20mg ED 1st week

Dianabol 20mg ED in wk7 and 8 (I thought this would give time for the sust to get out but I wouldnt just be hanging either)

Clomid in wk9 at 100mg 1st day then 50mg ED

Have nolva on hand just in case.

Well, let me know any thoughts or opinions.

Thanks for looking.

 

[Golfer18--old]

Here it is guys, first cycle, poppin the cherry, etc....

This is still a good month off but Im trying to get everything planned well in advance.

Sust250 Day 1 and 4 then every 5 days, last injection in wk5

Dianabol 20mg ED 1st week

Dianabol 20mg ED in wk7 and 8 (I thought this would give time for the sust to get out but I wouldnt just be hanging either)

Clomid in wk9 at 100mg 1st day then 50mg ED

Have nolva on hand just in case.

Well, let me know any thoughts or opinions.

Thanks for looking.

Not good at all bro.

Weeks 1-10 Sus 500mg/week
Weeks 1-4 25mgED

Clomid

 

[Parabellum]

So you have about 7 sust and 84 dball?

You should hit the sust every 3 days and 25mg dball (split evenly throught out the day) for the whole 5 weeks.

What are your stats and age?

If my calculations are correct you don't have enough gear.

 

[dasgh]

From using the roid calculator I saw that the sust stays in the system for approximately 3wks. From what Ive read, and correct me if Im wrong, the active levels of AS have to be low for clomid to work. Thats why I had the dbol at the end of the cycle to fill in the gap where I was letting the sust leave but before I could start clomid. Also, isnt 500mg/wk too much for a newbie?

Thanks.

 

[Parabellum]

From using the Also, isnt 500mg/wk too much for a newbie?

Some people will say no ans some will say yes.
It depends on a variety of factors.

What are your stats? How long have you been training?

Fill us in so we can help.

 

[jubei]

Shit man what are you thinking with that stupid cycle. No offense. Listen to golfer, he knows what he's talking about. Personally I would do this:

Sustanon week 1-12 250 mg every 4 days
Dianabol week 1-4 25 mg per day

 

[dasgh]

Age: 22
Training time: 6yrs
Weight: 220 (not sure about bf%, actually cutting right now in prep for cycle)
Height: 6"


Sorry I forgot the stats in 1st post.


I never said how much gear I have so how could you know if I have enough or not?

Anyway, all responses are welcome. Thanks.

 

[Tricepratus]

Follow the advice that golf did. Your thinking about using Dboll and week 7 and 8 to fill the gap that sust leave is not sense. The ancillary teraphy work better when androgen´s is droping. Here the body will be primed and ready to restore testosterone production

 

[dasgh]

So I am wrong about there having to be low levels of active AS in bodyfor clomid to work properly?

I have seen guys use prop to wait for the longer acting esters to get out of their blood before they start clomid. This seems like the same thing, just different drug. But, I'm the newbie here, I will take everyones opinion into consideration. Thank you.

 

[jubei]

You are right about recovery, it is better to have the test out of your system while administering post cycle treatment. You aren't going to be doing all that much test, so I don't think it will be a problem. It is easy if you want to adjust your cycle so that long acting esters will be out of your system quickly after the cycle is finished I would suggest the following.

week 1-4 Dianabol 25 mg every day
week 1-9 500 mg sustanon 250 (2x 250 mg per week)
week 10-12 300 mg test propionate (3x 100 mg per week)

You are already pretty big, so I don't think 500 mg of test is too much for you at all. You should see some very solid results from this cycle. Also I would incorporate HCG, and have nolvadex on hand if you don't want to use it during or after your cycle. 10mg nolvadex every day would be a good preventative measure, as well as using 20 mg every day post cycle to block out estrogen. Good luck

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ask 10 different people -- get 10 different answers.

Personally, I wouldn't use sus and d-bol together. They're both highly androgenic. Where's your reasoning? Sus hits hard and quick, almost negating the need for an oral.

The amount of sus that is active after 3 weeks is almost inconsequential.

You don't know how you're going to react to any of this. You don't know if you have an adversion to Clomid. I'd say do one or the other and drop the Clomid. You won't need it with low doses.

But then again, ask 10 different people...

 

[dasgh]

Like I said, I'm obviously a newbie so I value all the information I can get my hands on.

I want to start off rather slow and not mega doses. As mentioned, dont know how I will react and also dont want to fry receptors so I cant make gains with possible future cycles.

Mr. Montana: You dont think Sus250 every 5 days would warrant the use of dbol or clomid post cycle? Im just wondering how much HPTA suppression would be going on. Thank you

 

[jubei]

I know i'm not Mr. Montana, but I'll give you my advice anyways. I think d-bol for the first 4 weeks would be good, but you don't NEED it. 500 mg of sust a week is not a mega dose by any stretch. If you inject 2x per week your test levels will be more stable. Clomid is not my favorite either, but some ppl love it. I would take HCG, nolvadex, tribulus, and clen post cycle. Althought that might be overkill for the amount you are injecting. Kyno is also good during or post cycle, but requires quite volumous injections (10cc's a week) and may be difficult for you to find. Anyways thats my 2 cents.

 

[stockked]

Here it is guys, first cycle, poppin the cherry, etc....

This is still a good month off but Im trying to get everything planned well in advance.

Sust250 Day 1 and 4 then every 5 days, last injection in wk5

Dianabol 20mg ED 1st week

Dianabol 20mg ED in wk7 and 8 (I thought this would give time for the sust to get out but I wouldnt just be hanging either)

Clomid in wk9 at 100mg 1st day then 50mg ED

Have nolva on hand just in case.

Well, let me know any thoughts or opinions.

Thanks for looking.

try this for size sos250 every other day for one month then third week out 20 mgs d-ball for 6 weeks then recover,i gained 43 pds on this cycle,have nolva on hand or aromasin

 

[Nelson Montana]

Well, it seem you've bought into the "d-bol post cycle" theory, which I don't really believe. Sus is self tapering, and again, you're not doing that much.

I think sus every 4-5 days is plenty for a first timer. At you age, you should recover quickly and hold onto your gains, as long as they're under 10 pounds. HCG is something you should save when you really need it. There are plent of herbs to help restore libido post cycle if needed.

What I believe is even better, is to do only 3 weeks of a more anabolic cycle like Primo and/or winny or var. It's safer and you'll still grow.

Better yet, wait another couple of years before juicing-- but I realize that's asking too much.

 

[Parabellum]

Do what GOLF says, he's right on the money. What I was referring to was a five week cycle based on your 5 weeks post. If 5 weeks I would run both together for the duration.

If you can go with Golfs suggestion.

 

[stockked]

Well, it seem you've bought into the "d-bol post cycle" theory, which I don't really believe. Sus is self tapering, and again, you're not doing that much.

I think sus every 4-5 days is plenty for a first timer. At you age, you should recover quickly and hold onto your gains, as long as they're under 10 pounds. HCG is something you should save when you really need it. There are plent of herbs to help restore libido post cycle if needed.

What I believe is even better, is to do only 3 weeks of a more anabolic cycle like Primo and/or winny or var. It's safer and you'll still grow.

Better yet, wait another couple of years before juicing-- but I realize that's asking too much.

thats very interesting montana,what do you think about a 24 week cycle example-week1-8 sostenon250 eod withdeca 200mgs eod week9-16eod equipoise200mgs with test cyp200mgs eod,week-17-24 trenbolone 75 mgs every day primobolan 200mgs eod,week25 -26hcg15,000 iu every other dayweek27 100mgs of clomid for a toatal of 14 days

 

[Nelson Montana]

You're kidding, right? Please say you're kidding.

 

[dlcaro55]

You're kidding, right? Please say you're kidding.

I JUST FINISH A CYCLE LIKE THE ONE STOCKKED MENTION,...I HAD THE BEST GAINS I EVER MADE ON AAS EVER,....I ASK DAVE POLUMBO ABOUT THE CYCLE HE SAID SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN JUST ADD FINA,

 

[dasgh]

Re: Re: Please critique my cycle

try this for size sos250 every other day for one month then third week out 20 mgs d-ball for 6 weeks then recover,i gained 43 pds on this cycle,have nolva on hand or aromasin

give it about 8wks and tell us how much you kept...

Im going for KEEPABLE gains, therefore from what Ive read, you dont want to gain too much at once or your body is going to get rid of most of it. Just looking for 10-15lbs and want to keep it.


I really appreciate everyones input on this thread though.

Thank you all. If anyone has anymore ideas please feel free to respond.

 

[stockked]

You're kidding, right? Please say you're kidding.

just ask squatdemon

 

[dasgh]

So if I do sus250 2x/wk is my HPTA not going to be suppressed enough to warrant clomid?

 

[dasgh]

bounce....HPTA question answer please

 

[dasgh]

Does no one know about the HPTA question? I hate be annoying but I would really really like to know please. Thank you.

 

[Nelson Montana]

This is the "short" answer.


HPTA suppression is contingent on lots of things. Even small amounts of steroids will supress but if you keep the cycles under a month, you should be able to bounce back without problems if you get enough rest.

 

[dasgh]

So maybe I should just save the clomid and use tribulus or some other herbs?

 

[stockked]

So maybe I should just save the clomid and use tribulus or some other herbs?

FOR RECEPTORS TO OPEN UP AFTER A CYCLE DO THIS TAKE HCG AT 2500 EVRY 3 DAYS FOR A TOTAL OF 4 SHOTS TAKE CLOMID WITH IT AT 100MGS EVERY DAY FOR 14 DAYS THEN BEGIN A NEW CYCLE,