planning new cycle

[joh]

planning my second cycle in a month.
first one was 4 week test prop.

this one I am thinking to add an oral, also will be short 4 week one, ... so it will be test prop base of 100mg EOD (150mg gives me test flu every time I pin)
for teh oral I am contemplating either tbol, dbol or beastdrol

I am 37, 6.2" 201lb, BF 14%

for PCT I'll use OSTA SARM, Nolva, HCGenerate and Unleashed.
will use HCGenerate on cycle as well.

what is the oral aas of choice should be?

 

[padaboy]

cant go wrong with good dbol!

 

[joh]

so dbol it is then

 

[EZ_E]

Out of those choices; Beastdrol...

~EZ

 

[joh]

Out of those choices; Beastdrol...

~EZ

can you give more detail on why Beastdrol over dbol?

 

[RADAR]

Mg for Mg Beastdrol is stronger than Dbol,no bloating either!

 

[EZ_E]

can you give more detail on why Beastdrol over dbol?

Used both and Beastdrol is far superior....started back up on it again last week and the pump in my legs after the 2nd day back on was insannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnne...

Beastdrol is also far easier to obtain...

D-bol bloats you up...

~EZ

 

[bgbay]

I took Dbol and beastdrol before and I found beastdrol gains were faster, ya take less pills and they lasted longer, strength even felt better.
Beastdrol all the way bro, 2 caps ED for 4 weeks, PERFECT

 

[kscowboy]

Ok i am going to have to play devils advocate here. Your telling me an OTC supplement is better than a very strong anabolic steroid. I have never used beastdrol but i have used almost every oral there is and i am having a hard time believing this.

 

[EZ_E]

Ok i am going to have to play devils advocate here. Your telling me an OTC supplement is better than a very strong anabolic steroid. I have never used beastdrol but i have used almost every oral there is and i am having a hard time believing this.

Yes

~EZ

 

[joh]

thanks for all the opinions.
I wanted to run dbol. had access to pink dbols - but super expensive for some reason, cost as much as var so I passed.
I read up a lot on beastdrol etc and finally ended up getting dieselbolan v2.0.
so the cycle looks like this:

1-4 Dieselbolan v2.0 20mg ED (may do 30mg week 3 and 4).
1-5 Test Prop 150 EOD
1-5 n2guard
1-5 Forged Bromo
1-9 HCGenerate
1-20 D-Aspartic acid
6-9 Forged liver suppport
6+ Unleashed
6-10 OSTA SARM (got enough left for 5 weeks at 10mg ED)
6-9 Forma Stanzol
6-9 Nolva 40-20-20-20
9+ Bridge

Arimidex if I need it. which I doubt.

starting in a couple of weeks or so.

 

[zedhed]

Now that is a pretty dam good cycle. Congrats to you bro, nice job. You may want to add in a little more help for your liver (just my thoughts) maybe some Milk Thistle. GR8 job on that^^.

 

[joh]

Now that is a pretty dam good cycle. Congrats to you bro, nice job. You may want to add in a little more help for your liver (just my thoughts) maybe some Milk Thistle. GR8 job on that^^.

well I looked it over again and said - holly @#$% most of it is need2 products hahaha...

I kind of hoped that n2guard will take care of the liver support while on and Forged Liver Support for PCT.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

well I looked it over again and said - holly @#$% most of it is need2 products hahaha...

I kind of hoped that n2guard will take care of the liver support while on and Forged Liver Support for PCT.

IMO, run deiselv2 at max dose for 4 weeks..
Osta sarm is perfect for PCT, you will keep gaining..
I like clomid instead of nolva..

PCT looks good mang!

 

[Gamer2Be08]

No disrespect to anyone at all but the OTC stuff like beastdrol, never heard of it, First of all bro it depends on what your goals are. U c everybody answered what u should run and nobody knows your goal whether its to cut, bulk, want lean gains, mass gains or nothing. Im new here to this board but on MANY. I can give you very good advice bro but not knowing your goal its hard, been lifting and training for 15ys now. So my experiene is there. T-bol I highly recommend over d-bol anyday. As far as water retention and bloat goes, as far as strength goes its great, but without water retention and bloat and strength go with T-bol, i compare it to ANAVAR, only thing the difference is the price. And your little 4week cycle is wayway to short. Never go under 8 cause your missing out on alot bro

DeiselV2(maxlmg/dymethazine) and beastdrol (superdrol) are mainly used for bulks and that I believe, is what Op is doing.

Dbol/winnie stack beats the hell out of var and tbol..

 

[RADAR]

No disrespect to anyone at all but the OTC stuff like beastdrol, never heard of it, First of all bro it depends on what your goals are. U c everybody answered what u should run and nobody knows your goal whether its to cut, bulk, want lean gains, mass gains or nothing. Im new here to this board but on MANY. I can give you very good advice bro but not knowing your goal its hard, been lifting and training for 15ys now. So my experiene is there. T-bol I highly recommend over d-bol anyday. As far as water retention and bloat goes, as far as strength goes its great, but without water retention and bloat and strength go with T-bol, i compare it to ANAVAR, only thing the difference is the price. And your little 4week cycle is wayway to short. Never go under 8 cause your missing out on alot bro

Well I have 37 yrs in this so if you havn't tried Beastdrol,Dieslbolin,kantradrol and the rest let me assure you all are "steroids" The FDA just hasn't graded them yet ,and yes they will kick ass!each has a 100% money back guarantee so before you knock a product give it a try at least!

 

[Gamer2Be08]

First of all lil man u dont stack none of what u posted. If you stack dbol with winny or tbol with var ur an idiot. I was just comparing tbol to var. D-bol is good i said that, its great for strength b ut it has ALOT of water retention and bloat. T-bol has very very nice lean mass gains with no water retention. But anyways not going to get in a pissing match cause im better than that. But if he is bulking i would not run test prop to begin with unless he is frontloading, needs to be on long ester like enanthate or cyp, even sus, but not prop. 2nd of all he must not wanting to gain much at all if he is running that short of a cycle. But by what hes taking it looks like a cutter cuse of the prop, thats why i asked. I guess he needs to let us know so he can get the BEST ADVICE

Im sorry but you can stack dbol and winnie... The winnie will dry you out. The dbol will add the lean mass and size..

I am sorry if you cannot understand this ..

I hope you have a good evening broseph!

 

[RADAR]

Im not here to bash a produt at all because i havent tried it. Only thing i said was i havent heard of it and thats it. I just know what does work and can help people with advice on cycles. But when it comes to things that i havent heard of i cant do that. Sorry to piss u off and think im bashing your product because im not doing that at all. Just like i was telling needto earlier on pm. I will not bash nothing at all, but will give solid advice to somebody that doesnt have a clue whats going on or advice on something such as dosing and things of that nature. I can definately give solid advice on gear cause ive ran all of it thru out the years. But you have to admit since you have been doing it longer than ive been alive, you cannot give somebody advice on what to run if you dont even know there stats, goal, etc...

First of all in the post above me I would ask you to please refrain from name calling ,here we like to keep a clean board and calling someone an idiot is frowned upon by me.

Second of all you didn't piss me off ,Everyone has a right to their opinions,and i did not care about what his cycle was ,the poster was wanting a good kickstart which 99% of the members across the internet would agree on Dbol , However I have tried everything and mg for mg Beastdrol kicks in faster and give nice clean muscle mass, its now my favorite oral compound to date!
Consider yourself lucky to have found this site we have new SARMS,PCT products and anything else that is pretty much cutting edge that you won't hear or find anywhere else!
I hope you enjoy your stay here.

Peace out!
RADAR

 

[RADAR]

planning my second cycle in a month.
first one was 4 week test prop.

this one I am thinking to add an oral, also will be short 4 week one, ... so it will be test prop base of 100mg EOD (150mg gives me test flu every time I pin)
for teh oral I am contemplating either tbol, dbol or beastdrol

I am 37, 6.2" 201lb, BF 14%

for PCT I'll use OSTA SARM, Nolva, HCGenerate and Unleashed.
will use HCGenerate on cycle as well.

what is the oral aas of choice should be?

BTW I would extend the cycle to 6 weeks so you can take the full benefits of the Oral and the test prop .


Thats just my opinion.

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Well your the first to say lean mass off of d-bol! Ive never heard of that! However i have got great strength and mass gains from dbol, but i carried water and bloating with it, there was nothing lean about it. And usually people use winny to cut and thats all i was saying about the dbol, for me i would rather use t-bol or anavar because the gains were just as good as the d-bol were without all the water retention. If your bulking than yea d-bol, but not cutting. Hell for that matter Id rather run A-bombs before i would d-bol but everybody is different

The reason you could stack both dbol and winni is because winni has anti estrogenic properties.. It will shed the water weight off and keep fat low, diet dependent.

 

[joh]

BTW I would extend the cycle to 6 weeks so you can take the full benefits of the Oral and the test prop .


Thats just my opinion.

thanks for all the advice guys.

I can tell you that the 5 week prop cycle is more like a tentative schedule . it all depends when the sides show up and the gains slow. last time I did the cycle I was hit hard with the sides and my almost stopped end of week 5 and I did plan to run full 6 weeks then. So instead of torturing my body, stay shut down etc and get no gains I just stopped and went into PCT.
so when I start my cycle I will play it by the ear again.

Last time I gained 7lb on the 5 week test prop only cycle after dropping 4 lb of water the first week of PCT. I did not lose muscle, I was 2% down in BF. I was happy with the results. OSTA SARM helped me to hold on to all my strength gains and lean mass.

My goal is clean gains. I care little about water weight gains or gains where my BF goes up. I am 6.2 201lb at 14%bf now and my goal is to be 215-220lb at 12%BF. and I have plenty of time to get there. may be 2-3 more cycles. I do not plan to run long cycles or run long esters as I see no point in it for me. it may be a good idea for someone else but not me.

I would probably log my cycle too.