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Phentermine vs. Clen

ever seen a healthy speed freak? i would also think it would be highly catabolic. i agree with cydex01 leave it for the obese.
 
ever seen a healthy speed freak? i would also think it would be highly catabolic. i agree with cydex01 leave it for the obese.

I'm know that Phentermine is pharamacuetical speed but i never got any sides like i do with OTC supps like Lipo 6, Redline or anything else. I would agree though that it's for the obese. You should use diet and cardio for sure. I did have a hard time getting my protein in on Adipex too.
 
So last night around 6 I took a third of a dose. 6 hrs later of some of the most intense Volleyball I've ever played, and I've played at the most elite level...I felt like i was two min into a half assed warm up...Stuff is Gnarly!
 
Has anyone tried using both together, clenbuterol and phentermine? I ask because clen is supposed to be used to increase the effects of a regular workout and phentermine to lessen your appetite. I seem to get used to the phentermine and didn't know the dose could be doubled. I'll try that first since I don't want to use
the clen and phen together without knowing possible effects advice? Suggestions?
 
Just got a line on Phentermine and want to know if it worth exploiting. Took a "tester" and the shit sure felt intense, but I want to know if actually increases liposis, or simply supresses appetite.

How does it fit into the whole ECA < Clen < DNP continuum?

I have some clen, but I feel like a zombie on it, so if it is just as good, that is an upside for me.

phentermine is a distant relative to the amphetamines. it is certainly less
potent than say dextroamphetamine, methamphetamine or amphetamine
sulfate. you can build a rather fast tolerance to this drug and it has the
potential to be addictive. i've never understood the rationale for using it
for bodybuilding purposes. it is extremely catabolic and totaly innefective
after about 2 weeks of continuous use. bad choice.

clenbuterol is an asthma medication, primarily used in vet medicine in
europe. it has CNS activity like phentermine but is not habit forming.
it does lose its effectiveness after a short while, around 3 weeks, but
not due to tolerance. you can cycle on and off and it will continue to
work. it has some initial strength building properties but these are
quite transient and nothing to write home to ma ma about. like
phentermine, it is catabolic. some research suggest it has some
detrimental effect on cardiovascular in humans. i think the literature
is lacking on this drugs long term effects in humans. ( not cool in my
book. ) all in all not a good drug for losing weight, but preferable to
phentermine.

ECA is the best choice. but you must use it intelligently to get results.
you never have to take a handful of this stuff because there's no real
tolerance. it'll lose its effectiveness after a few weeks if taken improperly.
it's late and i don't wanna go into detail so googl it. several bonified
medical studies and tons of real world anecdotal stuff online. i use this
stuff and have for 13 years without one single side effect. i know plenty
others with the same experience.

DNP......... don't even consider it. do the research. anybody that fucks
with this shit deserves what they get. it is evolutions way of weeding
out their moronic genes.

ECA is hands down your best bet. btw, any stimulant omega offers
will be a good product and i'll personally stand good for it. i'm not
his rep, just a friend with no financial ties.
 
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