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think you could live with a cat ?
thinking about this today...i get hardcore ill around cats, cannot breath without a nebulizar after a few hours.
what would you do if your chic/dude had a cat? could fug things up
discuss
 
If you have cat allergy, that's a sign that The Universe (or God, or whatever...) hates you.

This God also hates Jews and Muslims, which is why it denies them the pleasure of Pork.
 
If you have cat allergy, that's a sign that The Universe (or God, or whatever...) hates you.

This God also hates Jews and Muslims, which is why it denies them the pleasure of Pork.

well, the jooze killed baby jesus, and the muslims are bastard children of ishamel, the shady kid, so i get that part.
but what have i done?
 
I wasn't MAJORLY allergic til I was in my early 20s. Before that, always had a cat.... and a chronic sinus problem from the cats.
My doctor made me give my cat away when I was about 23 or so. I was starting to have major breathing problems.
I can be around cats if the house is clean and I only stay a few hours. My biggest problem is when I am at work. Some of the patients have 3000 cats and no litter box. Cat hair just floating in the air like big, fluffy clouds. I just get out QUICK and hit tha neb. with some albuterol. Those t-pieces work WAY better than tha take-home inhalers.
 
well, the jooze killed baby jesus, and the muslims are bastard children of ishamel, the shady kid, so i get that part.
but what have i done?

But the Jews were forbidden to eat pork long before Jesus' time.

I guess you'll say God knew they were going to do it though...

As for what you've done, I dunno, but it must've been pretty bad. Like masturbating on Sunday morning or something.
 
Huge turn-off, don't think I could ever do it again. My college GF had one and I was always feeling like shit. Cats and Shellfish fug me up!
 
If you are allergic, don't date anyone who has one...simple as that. Nobody is worth the watery itchy eyes, violent sneezing, and respiratory distress.
 
there ARE hypo-allergenic cats, cats that do not cause an allergic reaction.

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there ARE hypo-allergenic cats, cats that do not cause an allergic reaction.

LifeStyle Pets!
LIFESTYLE PETS

LIFESTYLE PETS has produced the world's first scientifically-proven hypoallergenic cats and dogs. These pets allow some of the millions of people with feline or canine allergies to finally enjoy the love and companionship of a household pet without suffering from allergic symptoms.

i wonder how many reject pets they have to destroy trying to breed a good one
 
My GF goes into ashmatic arrest around cats and its fine with me as I think those filthy animals are only good for crab bait and dog toys
 
My son is allergic, but it's weird. As long as he's around cats regularly, he has no symptoms. When he's not around them for a period of time and then is exposed, he gets the symptoms (not the worst I've seen). He actually owns a cat, has no problems what so ever.
 
there ARE hypo-allergenic cats, cats that do not cause an allergic reaction.

LifeStyle Pets!
LIFESTYLE PETS

LIFESTYLE PETS has produced the world's first scientifically-proven hypoallergenic cats and dogs. These pets allow some of the millions of people with feline or canine allergies to finally enjoy the love and companionship of a household pet without suffering from allergic symptoms.

dont kid yourself....there's no such thing as a hypoallergenic pet.
 
I am with Musclemom on this one. I was had terrible asthma and allergies all my life. Cats ripped me a new one.

Asthma went away at 16 when my father, smoker, moved out of the house.

My wife is a cat lover and I finally gave in and let her get a cat - after about 6 months of having a cat around, I no longer had any allergies to them. I think your body figures it out and quits attacking it.

Anyway - that is my story - have 3 cats and two dogs in the house now and no real allergy or asthma problems as long as I stay away from smoky bars and hay (actually all harvest fuck me up).
 
I'm mildly to moderately allergic depending on a cat by cat basis...It won't stop me from owning one. They have shots for that kind of thing.
 
think you could live with a cat ?
thinking about this today...i get hardcore ill around cats, cannot breath without a nebulizar after a few hours.
what would you do if your chic/dude had a cat? could fug things up
discuss

I wouldn't date anyone with a cat. I'm so allergic to those things it feels like I got maced with fiberglass 5 minutes into being in their house. My eyes and nose itch just thinking about it. I've never found anything that could make the symptoms tolerable.
 
I wouldn't date anyone with a cat. I'm so allergic to those things it feels like I got maced with fiberglass 5 minutes into being in their house. My eyes and nose itch just thinking about it. I've never found anything that could make the symptoms tolerable.

cats=useless animals
 
no way dude. i'm highly allergic to cats. tried living with a couple once.
it is NOT FUN. just make him an outside cat or shoot the sucker with a crossbow.
 
no way dude. i'm highly allergic to cats. tried living with a couple once.
it is NOT FUN. just make him an outside cat or shoot the sucker with a crossbow.
Please don't recommend cruelty to animals. Feral and stray cats provide a highly valuable service in controlling local pest populations. If you don't like them, contact animal control or a local feral cat society and have the cat(s) humanely removed. But don't encourage cruelty.

Frankly, given the choice between disease ridden and transmitting rats and mice and cats (that cannot and do not transmit disease to humans), I can't imagine who would choose the rodents, but some of you people are fucking weird. Do you know that rat urine carries a form of hepatitis contagious to humans? Cats, however, are immune to it.

They are far, far from useless (unlike dogs, which when they are dumped as strays or feral are a danger to people, livestock and children).
 
They keep our grain stores free from rodents.

And they make damn nice foot warmers when you're sleeping.

You cat allergy people are WEAK.

Nah, we're not weak....we were meant to be dog people. And my dog can fug up your cat in a heartbeat, so who's weak now...nyah-nyah!:)
 
MM i'm only kidding. you should know that.
if you can actually picture me hunting cats with a crossbow.... lol
I was doing animal rescue back before you were out of elementary school. The stories I've heard would literally make you sick to your stomach. The depths of evil depravity and cruelty that humans are able to dream up never ceased to amaze and horrify me.
 
Nah, we're not weak....we were meant to be dog people. And my dog can fug up your cat in a heartbeat, so who's weak now...nyah-nyah!:)
Don't be so sure, I once saw a pissed off mother cat riding a dog like it was a horse in a rodeo, the cat was definitely going for more than six seconds. She was hanging on with all paws and working towards the dogs face and eyes.
 
I installed and ripped up carpet for 5 years full time

Cats are FAR more disgusting animals than dogs

I like cats, just wouldn't own one. I like my house.
 
Don't be so sure, I once saw a pissed off mother cat riding a dog like it was a horse in a rodeo, the cat was definitely going for more than six seconds. She was hanging on with all paws and working towards the dogs face and eyes.

My dog is a Belgian Malinois, not some goober Lab or wuss poodle.:) Here's a vid of the breed in action:


 
My dog is a Belgian Malinois, not some goober Lab or wuss poodle.:) Here's a vid of the breed in action:
This has nothing to do with size or fighting ability (I can't watch videos in the framework of EF, freezes my computer, I'm running an old platform). It's just simple logistics. If something is on a dog's back close to its head there ain't shit it can do. It's not like a human, it can't reason its way out of the situation, and roll or something like that, and their spines aren't flexible enough to allow them to reach back towards their necks. My father told me about raccoons that killed experienced hunting dogs with a similar technique. They'd get on the dog's back then get up to the head, and if they were anywhere near water the dog would end up dead by drowning :whatever:

Until you've seen a mother animal protecting her young you've never seen an animal that wants to, and is utterly willing to do anything, to destroy a threat.
 
This has nothing to do with size or fighting ability (I can't watch videos in the framework of EF, freezes my computer, I'm running an old platform). It's just simple logistics. If something is on a dog's back close to its head there ain't shit it can do. It's not like a human, it can't reason its way out of the situation, and roll or something like that, and their spines aren't flexible enough to allow them to reach back towards their necks. My father told me about raccoons that killed experienced hunting dogs with a similar technique. They'd get on the dog's back then get up to the head, and if they were anywhere near water the dog would end up dead by drowning :whatever:

Until you've seen a mother animal protecting her young you've never seen an animal that wants to, and is utterly willing to do anything, to destroy a threat.


Actually, some of the worst damage I've seen done to dogs is from raccoons of all things. IF they can get their little mitts onto the dog before the dog can bite them, they grab and bite repeatedly...they have very dexterous (sp?) hands.
 
lol @ a cat bringing a normal sized dog down.
Oh, I don't think they could bring one down, I didn't mean to imply that. I do know that if a single dog runs against one under the right circumstances a cat can potentially inflict enough damage that the dog will get the hell out of there.
 
lol @ a cat bringing a normal sized dog down.

I bet a 75 pound dog would be no match for a 75 pound cat.

There's a reason why no one has ever bred pet cats in larger sizes. Dog come in all sizes from three-pound teacup toys to 150-200 pound mastiffs, wolf hounds, great danes, and such. A 150 pound cat is a mountain lion or leopard.

I would certainly put my 12 pound cat up against any 12-pound adult dog.
 
I bet a 75 pound dog would be no match for a 75 pound cat.

There's a reason why no one has ever bred pet cats in larger sizes. Dog come in all sizes from three-pound teacup toys to 150-200 pound mastiffs, wolf hounds, great danes, and such. A 150 pound cat is a mountain lion or leopard.

I would certainly put my 12 pound cat up against any 12-pound adult dog.

God, cat people are funny.
 
God, cat people are funny.

he's right though.
what's cool about cats is that they are self-sufficent...a cat is gonna live a lot longer in the wild than a dog would.
wonder why the killer instinct still exists with domesticated cats, whereas dogs are pretty much worthless without human bros
 
he's right though.
what's cool about cats is that they are self-sufficent...a cat is gonna live a lot longer in the wild than a dog would.
wonder why the killer instinct still exists with domesticated cats, whereas dogs are pretty much worthless without human bros
I have six cats, five of them came from the shelter and one was semi-feral and picked me. My biggest baby, a cat I'm positive never set a paw outside a door, adores hunting and torturing the prey to death. It's impossible to get her trophy from her, she'll eat it first (eating the prey, believe it or not, is not instinctive. The killing bite is, but eating what you've killed is learned). So I came downstairs today and there was a murdered mouse in the middle of the living room floor.

Okay, my $0.02, essentially, cats have retained that self-sufficiency because they have always been solitary. Dogs are pack hunters. Dogs, inherently, need to be in a group structure to function and be happy, which is why they work so well in our households. Essentially, dogs are good soldiers. They are like us, we're pack animals, too. Believe it or not, dog body language translates over easier to humans than cat does.

Cats don't really need us but they like comfort and they are opportunistic. It's a bigger stretch for a cat to "learn" human society because they aren't really wired to operate in a group, so there may always be that element of aloofness that some people find off-putting, it depends on what they learned in the nest from mom and how much exposure to humans they had from the time they were tiny kittens.

Think of it this way, cats don't have the desire to grovel to gain your approval because there is no concept in their mind of moving up in a heirarchy, it's just not there. In a cat's mind, humans are people they live with. Dogs, however, are all over their humans because (ideally) the human is the pack leader and it's beneficial to seek the leaders approval because that will make your life better and move you up in status.

Taken down to it's essence: dogs see us as superior to them, whereas cats, inherently, see us as their (slightly clumsy and retarded) equals.
 
i have always been allergic to cats. my eyes start itching and nose starts getting stuffed. but recently, i went to a friends house who has 2 cats and i didnt get allergic. im on cycle so the only thing i can think of is that the juice strengthens your immune system. wierd but thats all i got. lol
 
i have always been allergic to cats. my eyes start itching and nose starts getting stuffed. but recently, i went to a friends house who has 2 cats and i didnt get allergic. im on cycle so the only thing i can think of is that the juice strengthens your immune system. wierd but thats all i got. lol

meh dunno bro i think you just got lucky
the sacs inside your lungs, i forget the name but mine swell up and restrict airflow and breathing is terrible
 
I have six cats, five of them came from the shelter and one was semi-feral and picked me. My biggest baby, a cat I'm positive never set a paw outside a door, adores hunting and torturing the prey to death. It's impossible to get her trophy from her, she'll eat it first (eating the prey, believe it or not, is not instinctive. The killing bite is, but eating what you've killed is learned). So I came downstairs today and there was a murdered mouse in the middle of the living room floor.

Okay, my $0.02, essentially, cats have retained that self-sufficiency because they have always been solitary. Dogs are pack hunters. Dogs, inherently, need to be in a group structure to function and be happy, which is why they work so well in our households. Essentially, dogs are good soldiers. They are like us, we're pack animals, too. Believe it or not, dog body language translates over easier to humans than cat does.

Cats don't really need us but they like comfort and they are opportunistic. It's a bigger stretch for a cat to "learn" human society because they aren't really wired to operate in a group, so there may always be that element of aloofness that some people find off-putting, it depends on what they learned in the nest from mom and how much exposure to humans they had from the time they were tiny kittens.

Think of it this way, cats don't have the desire to grovel to gain your approval because there is no concept in their mind of moving up in a heirarchy, it's just not there. In a cat's mind, humans are people they live with. Dogs, however, are all over their humans because (ideally) the human is the pack leader and it's beneficial to seek the leaders approval because that will make your life better and move you up in status.

Taken down to it's essence: dogs see us as superior to them, whereas cats, inherently, see us as their (slightly clumsy and retarded) equals.


That part about the dog seeing us as the leader...that's the way it is when they have been trained properly and the animal doesn't display ridiculously high 'alpha' traits. I'm sure in your past rescuing of animals, you have seen the tragedy that happens when people get a dog that has the potential to be very alpha (ex. rottweiler, german shepherd, doberman) and don't bother to put in the hard work to socialize them and teach obedience. Eventually, that dog challenges family members to try and climb in the pecking order of the pack...with terrible concequences. It is almost always labeled a 'bad dog', but more often than not, it's a case of a 'bad owner'....one that got more dog than they were able/willing to properly train.
 
That part about the dog seeing us as the leader...that's the way it is when they have been trained properly and the animal doesn't display ridiculously high 'alpha' traits. I'm sure in your past rescuing of animals, you have seen the tragedy that happens when people get a dog that has the potential to be very alpha (ex. rottweiler, german shepherd, doberman) and don't bother to put in the hard work to socialize them and teach obedience. Eventually, that dog challenges family members to try and climb in the pecking order of the pack...with terrible concequences. It is almost always labeled a 'bad dog', but more often than not, it's a case of a 'bad owner'....one that got more dog than they were able/willing to properly train.
I've never done dog rescue, too complicated on too many levels. As you observed, their heads can get very screwed up. Frankly, IMO, a large messed up dog is sort of like having a gun lying around the house that can spontaneously go off for no reason and remember, I was doing rescue with a kid and lots of small animals around the house.

What you said about teaching obedience is crucial, and it's not just teaching the animal, it's teaching the person. If you think about it, shitty discipline is virtually 100% of the problem that dog whisperer and his ilk deal with (the rest usually being really, really bad breeding that creates congenital neurologic problems, some of these inbred pedigreed animals are so high strung they're hopelessly neurotic).

Shit, if you think about it, it's the main problem supernanny and nanny 911 fix, too. People don't get that to raise a healthy animal, whether it's a child or canine, you have to be consistent, predictable, firm. Why are people such utter pussies about taking charge of things in a direct manner? Since when did parents start getting the idea they need to be buddies with their children, and then they go and do the same shit with their pets.
 
Cats don't really need us but they like comfort and they are opportunistic. It's a bigger stretch for a cat to "learn" human society because they aren't really wired to operate in a group, so there may always be that element of aloofness that some people find off-putting, it depends on what they learned in the nest from mom and how much exposure to humans they had from the time they were tiny kittens.

Think of it this way, cats don't have the desire to grovel to gain your approval because there is no concept in their mind of moving up in a heirarchy, it's just not there. In a cat's mind, humans are people they live with. Dogs, however, are all over their humans because (ideally) the human is the pack leader and it's beneficial to seek the leaders approval because that will make your life better and move you up in status.

Taken down to it's essence: dogs see us as superior to them, whereas cats, inherently, see us as their (slightly clumsy and retarded) equals.

Tell that to the kitty I fostered a couple of weeks ago who I literally could not get off my lap whenever I was home (and she was rescued from an abusive home, so it certainly wasn't learned behavior). Each cat has it's own distinct personality but I've known plenty who really needed human companionship. Not to live, maybe, but to be happy, yes.
 
Tell that to the kitty I fostered a couple of weeks ago who I literally could not get off my lap whenever I was home (and she was rescued from an abusive home, so it certainly wasn't learned behavior). Each cat has it's own distinct personality but I've known plenty who really needed human companionship. Not to live, maybe, but to be happy, yes.
In any demographic you're going to get extremes at either end of the spectrum but as much as I like cats and enjoy their company, I can't believe they need me, on an emotional level, either to be happy or to be complete animals, it's not the way they're wired. The fact is, dogs are inherently more "loyal" animals. If I was to give away just about any one of my cats to a kind home I don't think it would pine for me or my husband. It's abnormal for a cat to be emotionally clingy. I own one who is extremely clingy and I'm the first to admit that she's "tetched," but I would still expect her to transfer her clinginess to another person with a minimum of trauma (incidentally, the cat I own that's overly clingy came from a shelter and my husband and I can't prove it but we believe she came from an abusive home, too. Maybe a kitty version of Stockholm syndrome?)

Anyway, they shouldn't need us, it's not natural. They're wired for independence. We artificially override that behavior but it's still there, it's in their genes. I've seen cats who have always known a loving comfortable home and then had the chance to start getting out and hunting. Very quickly, given the opportunity the majority of cats come to prefer the hunt over being a lap cat. Killing is just about the biggest rush there is for them. They come back to us for a scratch or an easy meal, but in the end, they're hanging with us because they like us, not because they need us.
 
MM, I'm telling you...I've met cats that absolutely need people on an emotional level. You just have to take my word on that. And not just a couple of rare, extreme cases.
 
MM, I'm telling you...I've met cats that absolutely need people on an emotional level. You just have to take my word on that. And not just a couple of rare, extreme cases.
I don't deny that, but it's abnormal cat behavior, short and sweet. There's a perfectly good physiologic reason for it, but that doesn't make it natural.

It's been my observation that there are many people that don't really care for a cat that acts like a cat. They want a cat that acts dog-like. While that's fine for them, that's not a cat's true nature.

The truth is, most "cat crazy people" (and I do include myself in that category) don't know what a mature adult cat acts like. They have cats that were taken away from their mothers far too young that are neutered when the animals haven't even gone through adolescence. Most people think it's natural for a cat to be mentally in a state of perpetual late kittenhood, which makes it very affectionate and playful (as well as flaky and untrainable, most kittens have ADD). There is an enormous difference between the psychology of intact or late alters over early neutered cats.

I ran into the same thing when I owned ferrets. People would get these kits from the pet store, read a couple of books, and they knew ferrets. Then I'd haul out one of my unneutered hobs (breeding male ferret) and they'd literally say "What's that?" They don't even look like the same type of animal. Comparing a pet shop ferret to a privately bred adult ferret that's unneutered or neutered at the right age is like comparing bananas to pineapples. And cats are very much the same way, just as any other mammal. Just as there are physical differences caused by hormones, there are also psychological changes that happen, just as with us, look at the difference in how our minds operate as we mature from childhood to teenagers to young adult to mature adults.
 
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