PCT question for 24 week cycle

[hanibal]

i have about 3.5 weeks left of my 24 weeker. right now i'm only on prop at only 50 EOD, masteron at 300/wk and primo at 600/wk. also using AIFM. throughout the cycle i have been on many compounds but for past few weeks it's been these 3. i finish everything around 10/10. for PCT i normally do clomid, HCG and AIFM. but this was a long cycle. was thinking about using proviron but not sure if that would be good. when i use clomid i always do the usual, about 17 days, starting at 300 for a day, 200 for 2 days, 100 for a week and 50 for a week. i know alot say u just need 50-100/day w/ clomid, but i always have done it like this. HCG i do only 500iu E3D for like 2 weeks. i use the AIFM throughout PCT and beyond. should i make any changes for such a long cycle and would proviron be good to use as PCT? fuck i don't wanna come off

 

[Nelson Montana]

Using aifm on that cycle is like using a good luck charm with loaded dice. In other words, you'll think it worked because there's no way you can get estrogenic side effects from what you're using.

Clomid at 300 mgs a day is ridiculous.

Personally, if you're going to do cycles that long, don't bother coming off. You will not recover fully.

 

[hanibal]

hmmm. ok. yes 300 clomid is ridiculous, BUT i've done 16-24 weeks cycles last 3 summers. used similar if not same PCT as described and i fully recover and maintain alot. and i also got my wife pregnant 3 years ago after a similar cycle which i ended PCT about 2 months before conception.
i'm wondering if proviron would help if i started it around time i end masteron, and continue the proviron through PCT and alittle beyond. i know some say proviron is good for PCT some say it isn't.
oh yeah nelly, u know what i attribute to last summer's excellent recovery...? AIFM. pretty much on it for about a year now w/ alittle breaks here and there.

 

[hanibal]

that shit def prevents estrogen rebound after cycle end and i feel it kept my test up def. but this post IS NOT ABOUT IF AIFM WORKS OR NOT.

anyone use proviron for PCT?

 

[Varga]

No,
i used praviron just before I ended the cycle not on PCT. Personally I would not use it on PCT!
I do not use any regular gear on PCT. Stick with HCG(before PCT!), clomid, nolva and Aromasin( on PCT). As long as you keep estrogen down recovery will be quick, or as quick as you can do it after a long cycle.

BTW, 300mg clomid is too high and does not help any better than doing 50mg from my experience. The trick is to do your PCT for a long time 6 maybe 8 weeks if needed
good luck

 

[needtogetaas]

Using aifm on that cycle is like using a good luck charm with loaded dice. In other words, you'll think it worked because there's no way you can get estrogenic side effects from what you're using.

Clomid at 300 mgs a day is ridiculous.

Personally, if you're going to do cycles that long, don't bother coming off. You will not recover fully.

its one of them die hards bro...just let this one go theres no hope.

 

[hanibal]

i've never seen so many grown men act like bitches the minutes and af product is mentioned...WTF. whatever, my fault, i should have known what to expect on here anymore. forget i asked anything...

 

[Primordial Performance]

hmmm. ok. yes 300 clomid is ridiculous, BUT i've done 16-24 weeks cycles last 3 summers. used similar if not same PCT - post cycle therapy - as described and i fully recover and maintain alot. and i also got my wife pregnant 3 years ago after a similar cycle which i ended PCT about 2 months before conception.
i'm wondering if proviron would help if i started it around time i end masteron, and continue the proviron through PCT and alittle beyond. i know some say proviron is good for PCT some say it isn't.
oh yeah nelly, u know what i attribute to last summer's excellent recovery...? AIFM. pretty much on it for about a year now w/ alittle breaks here and there.

Proviron will definitely not help PCT. Some studies say that it wont hurt it either… but that is debatable. The fact is, it is a steroid and it can bind to the androgen receptors and suppress LH/FSH and thus slow your PCT.

500iu hCG E3D for 3 weeks starting now would be great. You don’t want to be running hCG for PCT since you wont be able to really recover until you are off of it. On cycle (or the last few weeks) is the time to be using hCG.

Drop the AIFM when the cycle is over. It wont help your PCT past that point since it will just overly suppress the little estrogen that you will have. Plus it has DHEA and a steroidal AI which can suppress LH/FSH and inhibit recovery. It may be good while on cycle, but PCT is a time to get off ALL steroid hormones. (including steroidal AI’s which can inhibit via the AR)

25mg/day of clomid is a good dose. Anything beyond 50mg/day is not going to provide any additional benefit and will only cause more side-effects. Derma Sustain would be a great post cycle choice too. You could run 25mg/day clomid and 5 pumps of Derma Sustain for 4-8 weeks for a fool proof PCT.

-Pp

 

[DJ_UFO]

Proviron will definitely not help PCT - post cycle therapy - . Some studies say that it wont hurt it either… but that is debatable. The fact is, it is a steroid and it can bind to the androgen receptors and suppress lh - leutenizing hormone - /FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - and thus slow your PCT.

500iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - E3D for 3 weeks starting now would be great. You don’t want to be running hCG for PCT since you wont be able to really recover until you are off of it. On cycle (or the last few weeks) is the time to be using hCG.

Drop the AIFM when the cycle is over. It wont help your PCT past that point since it will just overly suppress the little estrogen that you will have. Plus it has DHEA and a steroidal aromatase inhibitor which can suppress LH/FSH and inhibit recovery. It may be good while on cycle, but PCT is a time to get off ALL steroid hormones. (including steroidal aromatase inhibitor’s which can inhibit via the AR)

25mg/day of clomid is a good dose. Anything beyond 50mg/day is not going to provide any additional benefit and will only cause more side-effects. Derma Sustain would be a great post cycle choice too. You could run 25mg/day clomid and 5 pumps of Derma Sustain for 4-8 weeks for a fool proof PCT.

-Pp

hey pp when is the right time to start derma sustain on a PCT? after HCG and steroids? or at the same time with HCG?

 

[Primordial Performance]

hey pp when is the right time to start derma sustain on a PCT - post cycle therapy - ? after HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and steroids? or at the same time with HCG?

Well if you run hCG on cycle like you should then you would just start the Derma Sustain after the AAS’s clear the system… so about 2 weeks after your last injections depending on what your using.

-Pp