PCOS, pre-diabetes

[Karmic Pendulum]

I don't even know where to start. This condition is giving off major insulin resistance - the type that put on over 30lbs in about 4 months (at most) with a diet that was about 80% clean. Emotional binging began after a while. Person went out of control, and the only way to reduce the condition are birth control pills that have a low estrogen dosage. This regulates menstruation, as the menstruation went from irregular to none at all. Hirutism (sp?) [coarse hair growth on areas a female wouldn't normally grow hair] is a major aspect, as well as oily skin+infective acne.

Please inform me if there is anything you can add, help, inform about diet or exercise. It's not diabetes just yet, but within 10 years or less will develop into type 2. This situation is just about hopeless, unless someone surprises me with something none less than miraculous on my part...

The person is rather young. If calculated mathematically, she should have full blown diabetes in her 20s. She inherited the disease from her mother, who had inherited from her mother (who is an obese diabetic), and so on. Very unfortunate for this girl, everyone in her family developed it later in life and her mother isn't 100% diabetic either and hadn't experienced this sort of weight yo-yoing in her early life. Her grandparents from her mother's side are presently diabetic. Her sister has symptons of PCOS, but will most likely develop Type 1 as her metabolic activity shows. She metabolizes anything and everything in an hourly span. Her father hasn't visited his doctor in years, but according to records he should be heathly - although he's a compulsive eater and sugar addict. He has always been overweight. There's no way to get off the BC pills, and if she does she will lose her period once again. This has been experimented with.

She's miserable, and she knows what is to come. She exercises daily, she lifts...

That is all I can tell you. Thanks kindly to anyone who reads and/or considers this thread.

 

[musclemom]

Stop trusting conventional medicine and tell this young lady to educate herself and take her health into her own hands.

To begin I'd start with reading the following books:

"Detoxify or Die" by Dr. Sherry Rogers.

"Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution," I know low carb has taken a lot of hits, but this is just about the only diet approach that I know of that has successfully treated BOTH PCOS and diabetes.

"what your doctor may not tell you about premenopause," by Dr. John Lee. I understand she is young, but she has major hormonal issues.

Finally, I'd think about following a systemic candida diet for at least short term, consider reading:

"The Yeast Syndrome" by Trowbridge and Walker OR The Complete Candida Yeast Guidebook" by Jeanne Marie Martin with Zoltan Rona, M.D., Prima Publishing

Seriously check into the CureZone.com, also Mercola.com.

Or just do a serious Google search on systemic candida.

Going to a conventional M.D. and saying FIX ME, will not result in her getting better, it hasn't worked yet and it hasn't worked for how many members of her family??? She either educates herself and learns how to take care of her body or learn to live with what she has and the way conventional medicine will choose to treat it and the long term consequence of that treatment.

 

[Ulter]

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[believeNme]

I know this sounds crazy, but all the symptoms you described sound like what my doctor told me could be polysystic ovarian disease. The random dark hairs that grow, ineffective acne, eating disorders and loss of period. Atleast something to look into!

 

[Karmic Pendulum]

I know this sounds crazy, but all the symptoms you described sound like what my doctor told me could be polysystic ovarian disease. The random dark hairs that grow, ineffective acne, eating disorders and loss of period. Atleast something to look into!

PCOS is P olycystic Ovarian Syndrome.

It is also categorized by insulin resistance more than 50% of the time, especially depending on level of intensity.

 

[believeNme]

I feel so stupid!! ***blush*** =) Thanks karmic!!

 

[Karmic Pendulum]

I feel so stupid!! ***blush*** =) Thanks karmic!!

Nonsense I appreciate your help as well as everyone elses help. Except...I am worried about one thing in particular..

How am I to tell this 17 year old girl she has to go on a low carb diet for the rest of her life?

 

[musclemom]

Karmic, she's 17, not 7. Give her the tools to make the right decisions and you'll be amazed. She won't need to be on severe low carb, I think, I'm pretty sure it's more maintenance. I have to admit, I'm not sure about the exact details on this issue. Refined grain products and refined sugar need to be OUT of her diet, period, they spike insulin and obviously, her body just can't handle that on a steady basis. Maybe once in a blue moon, she could have a special treat, but not a steady diet.

The thing is, she has to make a choice between the potential of a relatively normal life with a restrictive diet, versus a life chained to pain and medications. If she sees her family members and what they have gone through, and is given the right tools to take control of her health, you just might be surprised.

The hard thing we all deal with (and this is true whether you're a parent or not), is that, when it comes to young people, our jobs are ONLY to provide the tools, the education, and the options, but you cannot make the decision for them. They have to make the choices themselves. If she CHOOSES to take responsibility and active participation in her health then she won't be resentful of making sacrifices.

 

[Karmic Pendulum]

Karmic, she's 17, not 7. Give her the tools to make the right decisions and you'll be amazed. She won't need to be on severe low carb, I think, I'm pretty sure it's more maintenance. I have to admit, I'm not sure about the exact details on this issue. Refined grain products and refined sugar need to be OUT of her diet, period, they spike insulin and obviously, her body just can't handle that on a steady basis. Maybe once in a blue moon, she could have a special treat, but not a steady diet.

The thing is, she has to make a choice between the potential of a relatively normal life with a restrictive diet, versus a life chained to pain and medications. If she sees her family members and what they have gone through, and is given the right tools to take control of her health, you just might be surprised.

The hard thing we all deal with (and this is true whether you're a parent or not), is that, when it comes to young people, our jobs are ONLY to provide the tools, the education, and the options, but you cannot make the decision for them. They have to make the choices themselves. If she CHOOSES to take responsibility and active participation in her health then she won't be resentful of making sacrifices.

Well well, you sure do amaze me

I understand, and I am sure she will understand. Thing is, she has already cut out all refinements and sugars except for fruit and complex carbs from her diet. She used to be a in the low 100s in weight...till the disease progressively became worse.

Will she be okay taking slimjims to school to snack on during class? Please, give us some ideas. I am sure it will all work out. I'll have her put on a CKD diet. We just need something to give her during class relatively low in cals that fits the CKD/Keto standing. I assume protein bars are out of the picture, but judging by the nitrates slimjims are injected with...so are they. Thank you again, and please, provide us with some ideas. She's struggling right now. Many classes, and her classmates are constantly attacked for eating in class (bagels w/cream cheese and such). Her classes are college courses, therefore her teachers are much more strict towards the education.

Awaiting responses.
Oh, and, I linked her to everything you have been stating. She knows the basics of clean diet, CKD, and very much about fitness and nutrition. All that is left is to get her off birth control, and we're not sure if that's very likely.

 

[scorpiogirl]

If she has a medical condition, her teachers need to take that into consideration. It's not like she's sitting there with a Big Mac for the sheer pleasure of eating, ya' know?

She's probably going to have to cook up a bunch of meat on the weekend and take that with her during the week. Eggs, cheese, meat (unprocessed), Low carb bread - Pepperidge Farms makes a 7 Grain that is really good. If she's keeping her sugars and carbs low, she needs a fiber supplement.