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Passover Massacre in Israel.. Why Doesn't the US Let Israel Attack Palestine?
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Prometheus
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Israel is a sovereign nation, and can attack anyone it chooses to. The U.S. doesn't have to "let" them do anything.
first, they *are* attacking. there are Israeli tanks in the streets in palestinian areas, Arafat's HQ has been attacked by missles, and over 1000 palestinians have been killed so far. but one argument for the U.S. (and all western allies) "pressuring" them not to start a full-out slaughter of the palestinians or declaring an official war is that they might draw the wrath of the entire arab world, a billion strong. given that Israel only has around 15 million people, the U.S./western world would have to decide whether to get involved to protect them or not, and if it did, that might start WWIII, west-vs-arab. if we go to full-scale war with the arab world, the WTC disaster will look like a prank compared to the terrorism that would be unleashed, in the US, Europe, and Israel.
3 reasons not to kill Arafat: he is a de facto "head of state," it might incite the whole population into a frenzy, making things worse, and it might allow some of the more fundamentalist (ie, more fanatical, more anti-Israel) groups to gain power if he's gone, which again would be much worse for Israel.
first, they *are* attacking. there are Israeli tanks in the streets in palestinian areas, Arafat's HQ has been attacked by missles, and over 1000 palestinians have been killed so far. but one argument for the U.S. (and all western allies) "pressuring" them not to start a full-out slaughter of the palestinians or declaring an official war is that they might draw the wrath of the entire arab world, a billion strong. given that Israel only has around 15 million people, the U.S./western world would have to decide whether to get involved to protect them or not, and if it did, that might start WWIII, west-vs-arab. if we go to full-scale war with the arab world, the WTC disaster will look like a prank compared to the terrorism that would be unleashed, in the US, Europe, and Israel.
3 reasons not to kill Arafat: he is a de facto "head of state," it might incite the whole population into a frenzy, making things worse, and it might allow some of the more fundamentalist (ie, more fanatical, more anti-Israel) groups to gain power if he's gone, which again would be much worse for Israel.
given that the US goves israel 4billion a year, should we have any say in their diplomatic affairs? the support financially and militarily given to them is perceived by the arab world as support, and there fore the actions of israel are seen as the actions of the west. people indirectly blame the west for allowing israel to do these things
arafat has always been a survivor, but i think thats made him unwilling to stick his neck on the line, because he obviously canmt control the people under him.
the only people israel can 'precision bomb' are the palestinian police force, which are arafats means of exerting control on the populace and were armed by the israelis
arafat has always been a survivor, but i think thats made him unwilling to stick his neck on the line, because he obviously canmt control the people under him.
the only people israel can 'precision bomb' are the palestinian police force, which are arafats means of exerting control on the populace and were armed by the israelis
thebabydoc
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Simple but ugly solution to the terrorist suicide bombers:
Everytime a bomber strikes, he is martyred by the Palestenian people. His family is honored, they are given money and supported financially and his picture is posted on street signs.
So therefore the Israeli's have access to the identity of the bombers.
Simple solution. When a bomber strikes (and his name is revealed), kill his entire family. Kill his father, kill his mother, brothers, sisters, grandparents, children, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews. Any and all friends, anyone who he even spoke to last week. Sound familiar? This is what the mob often does in extreme cases. It works.
Yes it's ugly, but war is war. In the grand scheme of things it would require the death of perhaps 40, maybe 50 more of these animals and their "innocent" cheering bretheren and families, but it will PERMANENTLY and IMMEDIATELY put an end to this problem. It is the true definition of deterrence and aversion therapy.
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY OF DEALING WITH TERRORISTS AND PEOPLE WHO DO NOT PLACE A VALUE ON THEIR OWN LIVES; make their decisions and actions have real consequences on those they do care about and leave behind.
Got a problem with this? Consider this: TWENTY innocent men, women, and children were murdered as well as over 120 injured by one of these Palestinian-sanctioned animals last night alone. They do not target military bases, artillery, tanks, etc... They target innocent women, children and teens eating at parks, restaurants, hotels and cafes and riding in public transportation.
Fucking Animals. Anyone who can't see this needs to remove their Arabian Rose-colored spectacles.
Everytime a bomber strikes, he is martyred by the Palestenian people. His family is honored, they are given money and supported financially and his picture is posted on street signs.
So therefore the Israeli's have access to the identity of the bombers.
Simple solution. When a bomber strikes (and his name is revealed), kill his entire family. Kill his father, kill his mother, brothers, sisters, grandparents, children, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews. Any and all friends, anyone who he even spoke to last week. Sound familiar? This is what the mob often does in extreme cases. It works.
Yes it's ugly, but war is war. In the grand scheme of things it would require the death of perhaps 40, maybe 50 more of these animals and their "innocent" cheering bretheren and families, but it will PERMANENTLY and IMMEDIATELY put an end to this problem. It is the true definition of deterrence and aversion therapy.
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY OF DEALING WITH TERRORISTS AND PEOPLE WHO DO NOT PLACE A VALUE ON THEIR OWN LIVES; make their decisions and actions have real consequences on those they do care about and leave behind.
Got a problem with this? Consider this: TWENTY innocent men, women, and children were murdered as well as over 120 injured by one of these Palestinian-sanctioned animals last night alone. They do not target military bases, artillery, tanks, etc... They target innocent women, children and teens eating at parks, restaurants, hotels and cafes and riding in public transportation.
Fucking Animals. Anyone who can't see this needs to remove their Arabian Rose-colored spectacles.
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Prometheus said:
You are very wise this was a very good answer. You are correct we our trying to put the start of WWIII(also know as Armaggeddon). When Israel signs a peace treaty will trigger the start of 7 tribulation that Revelation predicted hundreds of years ago. Then we will see Armeggedon at the end of the seven years. I still can't believe people don't see all this as Bible prophesy being fufilled right before their eyes.
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