Panic attacks and anxiety

[H-isBack]

Panic attacks are the most horrible thing that ever happened to me and it happened 2 weeks after a cycle, with me it starts of with a knot in my gut, like a nervous feeling - butterflys, I become extremely anxious, it then seems to explode in my chest, and a weakness and tingling runs down my arms and legs, my legs go to gelly, my heart races and i hyperventilate. I feel like i am going to die and the more i think on that the more intense it becomes, my mind just goes and i become very confused and disoriented, there doesnt seem to be any trigger associated with it, it just hits and hits hard. I do know that it is part of our instinctual fight or flight mechanism, all of the chemicals the body produces when your prepairing to fight are spontaneously released without apparent cause, so litteraly you start to stew in our one body chemicals, its by far the most fear i have ever felt. Thankfully i have conquered it and havent had one for nearly 2 years.

H

 

[georgie24]

how did you help your anxiety? do yo get it on cycle?

 

[H-isBack]

how did you help your anxiety? do yo get it on cycle?

moderate amounts of diazepam

H

 

[georgie24]

so your saying you still use gear but throw valium in the mix? im thinking about running a cycle with valium for anxiety.

 

[LEANNMEAN]

I suffered with Panic Attacks for about 5 years. I had extreme anxiety and depression I did'nt know what it was at the time but I got really scared and stopped my cycle cold turkey and then it got worst. Eventually I was put on Anafranil and it turned it off in 30 days it was awesome. If problems persist don't be ashamed to go to a Psychiatrist because untreated you live a miserable existance.

Panic attacks are the most horrible thing that ever happened to me and it happened 2 weeks after a cycle, with me it starts of with a knot in my gut, like a nervous feeling - butterflys, I become extremely anxious, it then seems to explode in my chest, and a weakness and tingling runs down my arms and legs, my legs go to gelly, my heart races and i hyperventilate. I feel like i am going to die and the more i think on that the more intense it becomes, my mind just goes and i become very confused and disoriented, there doesnt seem to be any trigger associated with it, it just hits and hits hard. I do know that it is part of our instinctual fight or flight mechanism, all of the chemicals the body produces when your prepairing to fight are spontaneously released without apparent cause, so litteraly you start to stew in our one body chemicals, its by far the most fear i have ever felt. Thankfully i have conquered it and havent had one for nearly 2 years, if anyone needs any info please email me - [email protected]

H

 

[Goodfellow]

I have terrible anxiety. Esp when I am 'on'. My doc give me a script for xanax so its not even a problem anymore. Valium works well too.

 

[bicepts101]

Panic attacks are the most horrible thing that ever happened to me and it happened 2 weeks after a cycle, with me it starts of with a knot in my gut, like a nervous feeling - butterflys, I become extremely anxious, it then seems to explode in my chest, and a weakness and tingling runs down my arms and legs, my legs go to gelly, my heart races and i hyperventilate. I feel like i am going to die and the more i think on that the more intense it becomes, my mind just goes and i become very confused and disoriented, there doesnt seem to be any trigger associated with it, it just hits and hits hard. I do know that it is part of our instinctual fight or flight mechanism, all of the chemicals the body produces when your prepairing to fight are spontaneously released without apparent cause, so litteraly you start to stew in our one body chemicals, its by far the most fear i have ever felt. Thankfully i have conquered it and havent had one for nearly 2 years, if anyone needs any info please email me - [email protected]

H

people like this are the people that shouldnt be using steroids

 

[jpl26]

Forego the Benzo's.....you might get addicted to them. Besides, they make you feel groggy.

Get a good brand/source of Rhodiola Rosea...standardized for 3-4% Rosavins.

Rhodiola acts like a good anti-depressant and mood enhancer.

BUT: The dosage has to be around 15mg or Rosavins/day. Over 20mg you might develop insomnia. So, basically take 500mg/day of a 3% extract. Try to find a good, oure, and clean one. The purity makes all the difference.
Rhodiola also has an effect on recovery...it enhances it.

 

[H-isBack]

people like this are the people that shouldnt be using steroids

Who do you think you are!? People like what? and on what evidence does your statement rest on to validate it, dont just come into a discussion shoting blanks and mouthing off, come on give me your knowledge and wisdom im dying to here it, im prepared to back up any statement i make with fact, science and/or experience, i see none of that in your statement, maybe people like you shouldnt be making posts.

H

 

[tybz28-#2]

When you had your panic attack the firt time you said it was 2 weeks after cycle right? Did you use Clomid when coming off? I know that for the first 3 weeks after cycle when im on Clomid I am a complete wreck. Anxiety goes way up and I get depressed. Just curious. Glad you have it handled.

 

[H-isBack]

Forego the Benzo's.....you might get addicted to them. Besides, they make you feel groggy.

Get a good brand/source of Rhodiola Rosea...standardized for 3-4% Rosavins.

Rhodiola acts like a good anti-depressant and mood enhancer.

BUT: The dosage has to be around 15mg or Rosavins/day. Over 20mg you might develop insomnia. So, basically take 500mg/day of a 3% extract. Try to find a good, oure, and clean one. The purity makes all the difference.
Rhodiola also has an effect on recovery...it enhances it.

This is the kind of mature post that is prevelant, shame about some!

Thanks for the great info, although i dont suffer anxiety/panic anymore its good info for people who do, thanks

H

 

[SVT-TROY]

maybe people like you shouldnt be making posts.

Good response, I love it. Anyhow, I myself had what I think was an anxiety attack. My arms started tingling, accelerated heart beat, lump in the throat, could barely breath, started shaking bad. I have had wierd feelings over the last couple of years (I start thinking about death and get a scared feeling). I used to get depressed a lot, but haven't been in about 2 years. The attack happened April of this year. I hope it never happens again.

 

[cboogsrun]

I think what Biceps101 is getting at is you take juice to get big. Juice is a drug, so when sides occur you take more drugs to deal with the juice. It seems like a big revolving door. Maybe it isn't worth it? Just my thought not flaming

Who do you think you are!? People like what? and on what evidence does your statement rest on to validate it, dont just come into a discussion shoting blanks and mouthing off, come on give me your knowledge and wisdom im dying to here it, im prepared to back up any statement i make with fact, science and/or experience, i see none of that in your statement, maybe people like you shouldnt be making posts.

H

 

[et2001]

I think what Biceps101 is getting at is you take juice to get big. Juice is a drug, so when sides occur you take more drugs to deal with the juice. It seems like a big revolving door. Maybe it isn't worth it? Just my thought not flaming

Just curious, do any of you know what sets off your attacks? Is there a thought of something that gets you going? The reason I ask is because I have suffered from depression and anxiety before and it usually comes when I ponder or focus on something negative. I've also suffered a little from paranoia. I'm wondering if I can beat these feelings from just getting mind strong and not think on the things that set me off. I know that it will be difficult to do, but I do not want to take something else that becomes a dependance. I really think that I can overcome these feelings by programming my mind to think on other things positive. If not, I will just quit using juice. I don't plan on staying on my whole life anyway.

 

[Goodfellow]

Benzo's have their place IF they are needed. Xanax is for people with bad anxiety. There are weaker benzos that work the same as xanax.

 

[tzan]

Thanks for the great info, although i dont suffer anxiety/panic anymore its good info for people who do, thanks

H

I'm curious you say that you don't suffer them anymore, but earlier on in this thread you said that moderate doses of valium got you through your anxiety. Are you still taking the valiums for the anxiety, or are you anxiety free now without having to take valiums.

Reason my asking is because I too suffer from anxiety and it seems to get worse everyday. I had one panic attack several years ago, and what triggers my anxiety now is that I will experience another panic attack. It's kind of strange since the cause of my panic is the possibility of getting panicked. My New Years resolution is to fix my mental health before it gets out of control.

 

[H-isBack]

Just curious, do any of you know what sets off your attacks? Is there a thought of something that gets you going? The reason I ask is because I have suffered from depression and anxiety before and it usually comes when I ponder or focus on something negative. I've also suffered a little from paranoia. I'm wondering if I can beat these feelings from just getting mind strong and not think on the things that set me off. I know that it will be difficult to do, but I do not want to take something else that becomes a dependance. I really think that I can overcome these feelings by programming my mind to think on other things positive. If not, I will just quit using juice. I don't plan on staying on my whole life anyway.

Any kind of meds is a short term solution and they can be problematic with respect to dependency, a lot of depression / anxiety is stress related and is your body tell you theres an imbalance in brain chems, the best med for this is PAXIL you can take this for 6 months and it will help balance up the depleted brain chems. I was never able to identify a trigger, i mean icould be lying down watching TV totally chilled and then WHAM!! right out of the blue, i learned to shut down mentally the things in my life that cause me even a little stress, the best way to conquer this is to learn to meditate and critically to learn how to take control of your breathing. I have a CD which plays brainwaves type Alpha through Delta, embeded in a sound track - birds singing, waves, and rain, this induces very quickly a state of meditaion which would take years to master, this was another of my groups developments at EMBL, if anyone is interested drop me a line [email protected] it changed my life.

H

 

[DIVISION]

people like this are the people that shouldnt be using steroids

^^^@ hisback, I don't think bicepts101 was completely serious when he said that statment.

You guys have really turned this in to a pissing match.....





DIV

 

[H-isBack]

^^^@ hisback, I don't think bicepts101 was completely serious when he said that statment.

You guys have really turned this in to a pissing match.....





DIV

maybe king of pain but that was for him to vocally rain
if you new really what was pain id kiss you and you could reign
oh father of pain, insane, nubain
too bad we colide and fall apart
too soon we die without a heart
be gone the evil that we start

 

[DIVISION]

maybe king of pain but that was for him to vocally rain
if you new really what was pain id kiss you and you could reign
oh father of pain, insane, nubain
too bad we colide and fall apart
too soon we die without a heart
be gone the evil that we start

Even though we both came from the same places, the panic attacks and the anxiety made us all change place.
Through the hard times that came to pass, made a true hisback hope his valium and thorazine supply would last......




DIV

 

[boogersnax]

Ah, good ole panic attacks. Yes, I've had my share and I hate them with a passion. My doc put me on 300mg of paxil and I love her for it. It changed my life. I finally realized I lived up to 52 years a fucked up person. It's feels good to be at peace with yourself.

PEACE
BoogerSnax

 

[glennds]

panic attacks are truly frigthening and you really do feel like you might be having a heart attack, with your heart beating a mile a minute and an inability to breathe. they would not be gear related though, but more related to your state of mind.

a couple christmas's ago i went thru the deepest depression i have ever experienced after a devasting death in the family. i had heard about panic attacks but never had one and knew little about them.

i had two or three of them within a week or so and was truly terrified. i was gasping for air and worried i was going to die. as time went by the depression lifted and i never had a panic attack again.

it is convenient to blame AAS for many of thigs: depression, anxiety, sleeplessness, mood swings, aggression. chances are it is all in your mind. you gotta overcome it some how. you have to do what it takes to pull yourself out of it. might not be easy.

 

[glennds]

Forego the Benzo's.....you might get addicted to them. .

i am probably gonna get flamed here but forget the anti anxiety meds AND anti depressants. we are all taken in by marketing that we have to take pills to solve our problems.

 

[shawnerk]

I used to get em too- Used to do paxil now on buspirone- buspirone is much better for me (for anxiety)- gonna look into klonopin, though- ask your docs about them if you get anxiety- also search for the root problem, not only medicate- good luck all

 

[DIVISION]

i am probably gonna get flamed here but forget the anti anxiety meds AND anti depressants. we are all taken in by marketing that we have to take pills to solve our problems.

^^^that would mean forgetting about AAS as well.......would it not?





DIV

 

[H-isBack]

Ah, good ole panic attacks. Yes, I've had my share and I hate them with a passion. My doc put me on 300mg of paxil and I love her for it. It changed my life. I finally realized I lived up to 52 years a fucked up person. It's feels good to be at peace with yourself.

PEACE
BoogerSnax

300mg? my doc told me the max was 60mg, whats with that? are you still on that amount? how do you feel? you must be quite manic on a dose that size, can you sleep?

H

 

[alanchiras]

One thought. In the latest Nation Geographic cover story on caffiene, there has been proven a link between too much use of this in coffees, etc and panic attacts. Mabye you should look at your possible dependence of caffine products. Thanks! Alan Chiras.

 

[glennds]

^^^that would mean forgetting about AAS as well.......would it not?
:

apples and oranges division. i happily take AAS to push my genetic limit in building muscle. i don't expect steroids to change my moods, but i do like the way i feel with ten or 15 lbs extra muscle. if i lose it someday i will deal with it.

depression/anxiety are condtions that can often be taken care of without taking a pill. yes they can be serious and in some cases meds may be helpful if it is physical,\ like that "chemical imbalance" thing which we all learned about from a commercial and bought into.

it might mean getting off your ass and changing your life which can be frightening. change is hard. way harder than whining that you are depressed and asking your doc for a pill to cure your problems.

 

[H-isBack]

apples and oranges division. i happily take AAS to push my genetic limit in building muscle. i don't expect steroids to change my moods, but i do like the way i feel with ten or 15 lbs extra muscle. if i lose it someday i will deal with it.

depression/anxiety are condtions that can often be taken care of without taking a pill. yes they can be serious and in some cases meds may be helpful if it is physical,\ like that "chemical imbalance" thing which we all learned about from a commercial and bought into.

it might mean getting off your ass and changing your life which can be frightening. change is hard. way harder than whining that you are depressed and asking your doc for a pill to cure your problems.

For clinical depression it is an absolute 100% necessity to take some form of anti-dep, people who have never suffered real depression dont know what they are talking about, its not a case of pulling yourself together or whining as you so eloquently put it because when real depression sets in you are no longer in control it seeps into every part of your life and slowly starts to break it down, it is a chemical imbalance in the brain and the only way to correct this is by taking an appropriate medication usually a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor. Its fact that 3 in 5 people will suffer a depressive break at some point in their life and most wont know what hit them, ill tell you, i wouldnt wish the darkness of depression on my worst enemy it is singularly the worst thing that can happen to someone, I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN!!

H

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

Paxil, without a doubt, saved my life. I've been taking it for just over 2 years now (at 20mg/day) and its made a huge difference. The anxiety and anxiety induced depression I lived with for 7 years prior to starting Paxil was horrendous.

I have to be very careful which types of AAS I use though. Although I'm on Paxil, several steroids render it usless... and I can be thrust into severe anxiety/depression with little warning. One experience, earlier this year, nearly cost me my life. Out of the dozen-plus steroids I've used over the past 5 years... I can safely use 3 of them (without experiencing dreadful behavioral sides).

1.) Testosterone (any variant... even Suspension)
2.) Winstrol
3.) Ananvar

The following caused me TERRIBLE anxiety
Nandrolone (Deca & NPP)
Equipoise
Dball
Anadrol

Tren? Never used it... I won't even go there.

 

[shawnerk]

Anyone else get anxiety with specific AAS'? I'm gettin ready to do Dbol and Test Ent. I take buspirone (buspar) and occasionally xanax for anxiety. Thanks!

 

[tzan]

Anyone else get anxiety with specific AAS'? I'm gettin ready to do Dbol and Test Ent. I take buspirone (buspar) and occasionally xanax for anxiety. Thanks!

I have terrible anxiety and have felt NO difference with it on the following AAS:

Test
EQ
Dbol
Anavar
Primo
Deca

 

[tzan]

Anyone else get anxiety with specific AAS'? I'm gettin ready to do Dbol and Test Ent. I take buspirone (buspar) and occasionally xanax for anxiety. Thanks!

I have terrible anxiety and have felt NO difference with it on the following AAS:

Test
EQ
Dbol
Anavar
Primo
Deca

Everybody reacts different to different drugs wheather it be steroids or anti-depresent meds.

 

[LVTitan]

people like this are the people that shouldnt be using steroids

give this guy a chance bicepts buddy... he's actually had a few good reads already and has helped me more than once aside....
thx bro man.
titan (delts 101)

 

[daveyboy2345]

I too suffer from occasional mild to moderate anxiety and panic attacks. I do not like taking prescription meds, so I decided to seek nutricuticals that work as well. Here is what I use... Vitamin B-12 sublingual 500 mcg, I place 2 of these lozenges under my tongue and within 2-3 minutes I am recovering from my attack. They are tiny little pills so you can stash away tons with you for emergencies.

I tend to get my attacks when I am in a seated or laying position. At night I also am sure to have a vit c and a B complex in my system, so that when i need to pop a b-12, I already have an environment for it to work more efficiently.

I can no longer use an ECA stack for energy/dieting purposes, I am now limited to 100 mgs of caffeine pre workout, and on the days that I take the caffeine, I can usually expect an attack later on in the day. But I am usually ready for it.

I hope I provided some insight for people to use, good luck!!!

 

[bicepts101]

Panic attacks are the most horrible thing that ever happened to me and it happened 2 weeks after a cycle, with me it starts of with a knot in my gut, like a nervous feeling - butterflys, I become extremely anxious, it then seems to explode in my chest, and a weakness and tingling runs down my arms and legs, my legs go to gelly, my heart races and i hyperventilate. I feel like i am going to die and the more i think on that the more intense it becomes, my mind just goes and i become very confused and disoriented, there doesnt seem to be any trigger associated with it, it just hits and hits hard. I do know that it is part of our instinctual fight or flight mechanism, all of the chemicals the body produces when your prepairing to fight are spontaneously released without apparent cause, so litteraly you start to stew in our one body chemicals, its by far the most fear i have ever felt. Thankfully i have conquered it and havent had one for nearly 2 years.

H

ok bro...im not sure what way you took my post but you got pretty offended....its funnny cause just re-read you initial post bro....look at what happened to u. what i said has nothing to do with science...all i meant by my post was people that are suceptable to conditions like this should steer clear of any steroids....any type of hormonal imbalance could set this off...

i think everyone is taking my post the wrong....it was only stated for the saftey of others...not..."oh you cant handle steroids or you dont deserve to do them, or whatever...you know what i mean guys....people fucking kill themselves everyday from depression....i should know, in the military it happens all the time...from guys that dont use steroids.

 

[got2getripped]

Any kind of meds is a short term solution and they can be problematic with respect to dependency, a lot of depression / anxiety is stress related and is your body tell you theres an imbalance in brain chems, the best med for this is PAXIL you can take this for 6 months and it will help balance up the depleted brain chems. I was never able to identify a trigger, i mean icould be lying down watching TV totally chilled and then WHAM!! right out of the blue, i learned to shut down mentally the things in my life that cause me even a little stress, the best way to conquer this is to learn to meditate and critically to learn how to take control of your breathing. I have a CD which plays brainwaves type Alpha through Delta, embeded in a sound track - birds singing, waves, and rain, this induces very quickly a state of meditaion which would take years to master, this was another of my groups developments at EMBL, if anyone is interested drop me a line [email protected] it changed my life.

H

I used to have the same problems as you mentioned above. Mine all started from experimenting with street drugs when I was around the age of 15-16. I was never a druggy I just tryed a drug that my body obviously wasn't meant to take and I had panic/anxiety attacks for quite ahwile after that and never touched hard drugs ever again. I was prescribed paxil for it but I never took it like I was supposed to( I hate antidepressents they make me crazy with buku sides) eventually it just stopped happening. I still have xanax and Lorazapram on hand in case I ever have one again, just kinda there as a security blanket.