Pain Killers?

[Para_Shoot]

Listen bro's, watch out for that Tramadol (Ultram). I know they say it's a non-opioid, but thats bullshit. Look at the chemical structure of it and the thing that looks like a "tail" hanging off in the picture of it's atoms. That "tail" piece is exactly the same thing opiates have. They say it doesn't latch onto the "mu" receptors (the ones opiods cling to) in the base of the brain..No, it attaches itself to a different receptor in the base. When you take too many tramadols and you feel like your "ridin the tram", you are! Tramadol is an easy pill to take one after the other. I was chemically addicted to tramadol also. I was taking 40-50 trams a day. Yes, it kills sex drive too. Tramadol withdraws are frikkin unique, but nonetheless very bad. All my joints in my fingers just ached when I didn't have any. The worst withdraw symptom, and the scariest, is double vision, and you can't shake it. I had to drive 40 miles home with no tramadol, having massive, very bad double vision. Kept one eye shut the whole way home. Ultram is addictave chemically if you abuse it, like me. Don't let anyone tell you different. I used my tramadol when I was withdrawing from my 30-40 a day roxicodone 30mg tablets. The ultram took away the withdraw symptoms, so tell me it's not an opioid..Trouble is, you gotta watch gettin hooked on them while comming off other narcotics. If you are quitting opiate pain pills, and you have no current addiction to ultram, I highly recommend it to deal with the opiate withdraw symptoms, but use a little as possible. I know it's one drug for the other, but you gotta put an end to it somehow.

 

[ben hart]

Para, I thought you used the Wellbutrin to get off the Roxys? I'm wondering what to take the second I stop taking Roxys. Never heard of Tramadol. Someone even said Methadone, but I thought that was an opiate as well.

 

[Para_Shoot]

Actually, when I was hooked on opiates I was also taking ultram to supplement the "high" I could never seem to get anymore. Yes, I did use wellbutrin in the end to finally kick and get rid of the last stages of side effects, but I was taking ultrams too, earlier in the process to help with the real opiate withdraws that came at the beginning of detox. I figured that yes, ultrams are weaker than roxy's, so use them also as an aid to come down off detox.. Yeah..drugs for drugs, I know. But...the wellbutrin did it all. Had I known about it sooner, I'd have demanded it. Now that I look back, it's a sucky, shitty, home-wrecking,self-wrecking time while I was on the pills. THere are three things you have to do to help yourself, and thats the ONLY person that can really help you, yourself. One is admitting your hooked, two is getting help and three is to look back when you finally pull through and realize what you have done, so you hopefully never do it again. If I was a doctor right out of med school with all those student loans, I'd open up a pain management clinic, and get the word out that I freely distrubute narcotics, keeping everything documented for DEA of course. Man, you'd be a millionaire over and over and over...all those people hooked already will flock to you and pay you..over and over and over..

 

[Para_Shoot]

Hey Ben, if you are looking to take something the "second" you decide to quit opiates, I'd definitly go with the tramadol (ultram). It will greatly, greatly take away alot of withdraw symptoms, but DON'T abuse the ultram. A little ativan in the mix will also do a good job of the anxeity. Wellbutrin takes a full month to do it's thing properly, but you notice it taking care of opiate cravings in the 2nd week. I believe methadone (is it dolophine I think) is a narcotic, even though I think it is synthesized in a lab. I don't know too much about methadone.

 

[bbkingpin]

i actually take 2 10/325 hydrocodone before chest and shoulder workouts due to shoulder pain actuallly seem to hype me up but thats just twice aweek.

Does your doctor prescribe?

 

[pound for pound]

As for the xanax I need that shit,I just don't need the amount I take.But fuck it

nah, you don't need it. I used to get anxiety attacks just thinking about an anxiety attack. It's a mental game. I weened myself off that shit after taking it for 3-4 years. I hated it. Within 3 months of not taking xanax, I lost 30 lbs. After 1 year of not taking xanax, I lost 80. I was in the gym the whole time while taking the xanax too. That shit is addictive period. I always thought the doc was full of shit for saying it was because I didn't like to take it, I thought I "needed" it. I didn't and I'm guessing you don't either. It's a good bandaid but it solves nothing. If this doesn't apply to you at all, my bad, maybe someone else will relate

 

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[reelbig004]

For those of you who are addicted to pain pills and trying to kick the habit, you should really look into a drug called saboxone (sp?). It is at the forefront of addiction medications. It is an excellent drug for killing cravings and unlike methadone, there is typically no need or very little need to continualy increase your dosage over time. It like welbutrin is also used for chronic pain. I have been attending Narcotics Anonymous meeting for different reasons and most of the people in the room swear by this drug. Most say it saved there lives. Doctors must have special training to perscribe this medication and doctors are limited to only having 30 patients on the medication at one time. I hope this helps some of you. Good Luck

 

[bixnij6]

Listen bro's, watch out for that Tramadol (Ultram). I know they say it's a non-opioid, but thats bullshit. Look at the chemical structure of it and the thing that looks like a "tail" hanging off in the picture of it's atoms. That "tail" piece is exactly the same thing opiates have. They say it doesn't latch onto the "mu" receptors (the ones opiods cling to) in the base of the brain..No, it attaches itself to a different receptor in the base. When you take too many tramadols and you feel like your "ridin the tram", you are! Tramadol is an easy pill to take one after the other. I was chemically addicted to tramadol also. I was taking 40-50 trams a day. Yes, it kills sex drive too. Tramadol withdraws are frikkin unique, but nonetheless very bad. All my joints in my fingers just ached when I didn't have any. The worst withdraw symptom, and the scariest, is double vision, and you can't shake it. I had to drive 40 miles home with no tramadol, having massive, very bad double vision. Kept one eye shut the whole way home. Ultram is addictave chemically if you abuse it, like me. Don't let anyone tell you different. I used my tramadol when I was withdrawing from my 30-40 a day roxicodone 30mg tablets. The ultram took away the withdraw symptoms, so tell me it's not an opioid..Trouble is, you gotta watch gettin hooked on them while comming off other narcotics. If you are quitting opiate pain pills, and you have no current addiction to ultram, I highly recommend it to deal with the opiate withdraw symptoms, but use a little as possible. I know it's one drug for the other, but you gotta put an end to it somehow.

I was just wondering how many Mgs were the tram you were taking?

I took 2 at 50 mgs a piece and they did nothing.

Thanks bro,
Good luck to you

 

[64Pilot]

If you guys get hurt and need narcotics, ask for Narco. It is basically Lortabs without all the damn tylenol. The massive amounts of tylenol in vics/Lortabs are hellacious on the liver. I can only imagne the damage of someone with an addiction and taking oral AAS