Pain Killers?

[bas4lizzife]

If you guys get hurt and need narcotics, ask for Narco. It is basically Lortabs without all the damn tylenol. The massive amounts of tylenol in vics/Lortabs are hellacious on the liver. I can only imagne the damage of someone with an addiction and taking oral AAS

The problem is that the acetaminophen is relatively safe in the prescribed dosages for these drugs. So are you going to say 'hey doc, can you write a script for vicoprofen instead of vicoden? i'm going to eat the whole bottle when i get home and dont want the liver damage.'

 

[racoon_city]

I kicked a 3-4 bottle/wk Nubain Habit about 9 months ago. I used it for about 4 yrs. At 1st, I found it to be an incredible pre workout compound. Any exercise sounded like a great idea. Extra sets? Why not? I don't feel tired. This was all sub q injections until a BB friend of mine convinced me mainlining was the way to go. One bang and I was never gonna do the pussy sub q injection again. I started doing cardio AM in addition my normal PM workouts. I started using the Nubain to wake up-It was the bomb. A few months later I was taking a shot mid day, few months after that it turned into 3 shots midday for a daily total of 6-7. In the meantime the rest of my life started falling apart, but for some reason I didn't realize it until I had lost a considerable amount of $$$ and material things. I feel like the Nubain actually numbed the part of my brain that made me motivated to accomplish more than the next guy in earlier yrs of my life. I stopped giving a fuck about superficial shit being a slave to the needle made me feel like shit about myself. I never thought I'd be hooked, and since I quit cold turkey after so long, sometimes I wonder if I ever really was(and I was just being a wuss)? Anyway that sucked-but the worst part about getting off of it was that it came unexpected. My source had a family 911 and left town. I had one bottle to taper off with-which normally lasted me 1.5 days. I made it las 3 days. 24 hrs later WD's started kicking in. For 3 days I was sick, couldn't sleep and had stomach cramps. I had no appetitite. I felt like clenching my fists. I was cold and sweaty. My only relief was getting in the shower-which didn't help much. Over the next 4-5 weeks I started feeling better but no matter what I couldn't sleep more than 1-2 hrs/night. I felt like Tyler Durden in Fight Club. After awhile I got more and more nightly sleep. I also still thought about using it at least 3-4x a day for the next couple months. My old source has called me 2x in the past 9 months-I never returned his calls. No way I'm I taking that slippery slope again.

yea fuck that dont call hom back!!!


i abuse what ever i can get but casually on the weekends, i too am to afraid to be addicted or a slave to any drug besides gear...the most i ever ran a binge was 3 days,,i just couldnt see myself doing it ED.... so i enjoy on the weekends

 

[Para_Shoot]

I was just wondering how many Mgs were the tram you were taking?

I took 2 at 50 mgs a piece and they did nothing.

Thanks bro,
Good luck to you

I took 40-50 ultrams from about 7am to 1am, then immediatly drifted off into sedated sleep..I did this a lot, with those amounts, in and out of doing roxies and oxys. Mine were 50mg too. Two 50mg pills is not gonna get you hooked or do that much to you painkillin wise. It's when you are on your 15th one that your breathing really, really slows and you feel like something in the bottom of your mouth/jaw is tightning up. Very weird effects when on too much tramadol.

Heres another question:

When does it go from "just working out" -to- "serious bodybuilding"..cause you know it does. I think it is when you cross the line and that first needle of juice goes squirting into you. Things tend to get real serious then..don't they?

 

[SwolK]

this is a good thread. i was timid to post on it at first. i have been clean for about 1.5 years now, after being addicted on and off for 4 years. it started out as fun, then 4 orthopedic operations, then abuse(because of easy access from the surgeries). It started out as only a weekend thing too. then after time it turned into more. everyone should be careful! someone asked about methadone, it is a opiate, but does not give the sides (high) that pain meds give. Therefore they prescribe it because it helps control the sides from not taking pain meds(becasue it is an opiate), and the person learns to live with out the high. then they slowly ween you off the methadone.
hope this helps, its a nasty addition and I still crave it all.
btw
percs are oxycodone
vicodin, lortabs are hydrocodone
oxycontin is like super oxycodone.

I see people (not here) refering to percs, and vicodin and others as the drug. percs and vicodin are brand names for the gereric drug oxycodon and hydrocodone. and yes, oxy is more powerful then hydro.

man, I could really go for some now
j/k, well kind of

 

[drrman]

this is a good thread. i was timid to post on it at first. i have been clean for about 1.5 years now, after being addicted on and off for 4 years. it started out as fun, then 4 orthopedic operations, then abuse(because of easy access from the surgeries). It started out as only a weekend thing too. then after time it turned into more. everyone should be careful! someone asked about methadone, it is a opiate, but does not give the sides (high) that pain meds give. Therefore they prescribe it because it helps control the sides from not taking pain meds(becasue it is an opiate), and the person learns to live with out the high. then they slowly ween you off the methadone.
hope this helps, its a nasty addition and I still crave it all.
btw
percs are oxycodone
vicodin, lortabs are hydrocodone
oxycontin is like super oxycodone.

I see people (not here) refering to percs, and vicodin and others as the drug. percs and vicodin are brand names for the gereric drug oxycodon and hydrocodone. and yes, oxy is more powerful then hydro.

man, I could really go for some now
j/k, well kind of

Bro, been there myself, just like your story, i used casually on weekends, thought it was nothing, said i could never be addicted, then a bad motorcycle wreck and three surgeries then i was laying around with nothing to do....I used to use G occassionally for fun on weekends, then i was using it everyday, the all the time, if no G the pain meds, whatever i had, i was in a fucking haze! I haven't taken any substance other than juice for almost a year now, best i've felt in years....Point being, the shit can sneak up on you, i was a weekend user for 5-6 years and next thing you know i considered myself an addict. I was in a fucking haze for months on end, hell i will watch a movie now i know i seen back during the haze and it seems like a brand new movie.....My point is these "pills" have no place in a healthy life or in bodybuilding besides if you need to deal with a valid injury. Be careful with this shit people, i used to think the stigma around all this stuff was bullshit.....but when you reach the bottom of the barrell, you REALIZE

 

[ben hart]

Thanks Para and Swolk I'll look into it. Bodybuilding has always been a part of my life. Since my back injury and surgery, I've made excuses to pop pills. I too started to taking Vics for fun on the weekends. I could get a handful of 5/500s on Monday, put them on the shelf, and take them on saturday night. Now, I take them with my coffee as soon as I get up,all the way until I climb into bed. If I get them, I take them until their gone. 30mg Roxys. I've built up a tolerence so high, that taking 8 10mg Percs or Narco's won't even get rid of a mild headache. Its pathetic. I don't often look at myself in the mirror. Havent worked out in a year, even though I could.My prayers go out to all of you. I take some comfort knowing there are BBdrs like me that have delt with it. I'll be back in da game! You can count on it.

 

[Para_Shoot]

Isn't that kind of amazing..when you build up such a high tolerance that 10 30mg roxicodones taken at one time just calms you down from being on edge from the last time you took ten..about 5 hours before. You put those 10 pills in someones drink (who doesn't take pain meds) and then your up on murder charges..Also, I am kinda new here..will someone please tell me what the word "bump" means in peoples posts. Thankx

 

[ben hart]

Bumping the thread puts the whole thread at the top of the forum list, so that more people can potentially see it.

 

[dbeckman]

Its amazing, this is just like an aa meeting or a na meeting. You read a story, and it sounds like yours. I do miss taking the pills. I miss the feeling. I do not miss not being able to nut, and my wife thinking it was because of her, the lying, the people you have to associate with to get your fix. Its a bad life style. But I sure miss that feeling of everything is great. I have been to the bottom because of perc 10, and I would not go back. I really want some pills now

 

[ben hart]

I do not miss not being able to nut, and my wife thinking it was because of her, It happened again last night! I fucking hate it.