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Para_Shoot
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Yes, I was addicted to oxycontin and roxicodone for 4 straight years. I was doing the doctor shopping thing with 5 different docs. Last may my 10yr marriage was over, she says cause of the drug abuse. Have been clean (from narcotics) since May, as I weaned myself down with help from my primary care doc. Trouble is, I had back surgery when I was 26 and that introduced me to the world of painkillers. They say those kinds of drugs wreck familys..Does it? I'll tell ya this, it wrecks yourself. You know how you are always finding ways to get the juice? Do that with pain killers and you will find EVERY WAY possible to get a hold of them. I had to go on Wellbutrin when I quit painkillers, not because of depression,but cause those opioids really, really screw up your dopamine and norepinephrine neurotransmitters. When someone tells you you lost the ability to "love" while your on the pills, you have no idea what they are talking about and you don't believe it. WHen you come off and are clean and your dopamine and norepinepherine neurotransmitters return to normal from the Wellbutrin, you see EXACTLY what they mean about being able to love. Man, painkillers start out harmless in the beginning..mixed with some beer...then 4 months after you are chemically hooked. Does it wreck familys..in my opinion yes. Now, I just do the juice..go figure..one drug for another?? I don't know..My advice to someone who wants to quit painkillers or who just has quit a painkiller addiction, get on Wellbutrin. I can't believe that wellbutrin works the way it does..plus, it's a great fat burner..big time!
Themachine01
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parashoot said:
Are you still on Wellbutrin, or did you use it while getting off the pain killers? How long did it take for your dopamine and norepinepherine to get back to normal? Im curious because of friends of mine that I believe may have a problem.
Para_Shoot
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Well, I started wellbutrin July 12th, I remember it clearly. Yes, my doctor prescribed it and is still prescribing it. After you get through all the side effects of wellbutrin, which last 3 weeks (look up wellbutrin on the web for the list of side effects..I had them ALL), then the stuff kicks in at the end of the 4th week. My doc told me it would take a month for it to work, and it did. I did feel some change halfway through that 4 weeks, as my thoughts got crystal clear and my emotions were not all tangled up, but definitly as time progressed things kept gettin better.. My doc says I need to be on it for about a year. Hell, I abused pain pills for 4 years straight, every single day, and it takes wellbutrin about a year to do the entire job, I'll take it. I think some people think that anti depressants like wellbutrin are are a bad thing. It does what it is supposed to do. Repair your dopamine and norepenephrin x-mitters. You don't know how important these 2 things are untill to go wrong like I did and then come back to reality. It's kinda hard to explain..If you try this stuff, you gotta endure and bare the side effects cause the overall outcome is 100% top notch.
scout69
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I don't know addicted..Well ok,I love pills man,Xanx,Klonapin,Generic whatever,Percs all of it..I fucking love that shit..But it's a weekday thing for me.I dont go out and party on that shit,I like to be up when Im partying,As for the xanax I need that shit,I just don't need the amount I take.But fuck itJKurz1 said:
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Mr.X
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JKurz1 said:
I had a few friends with life-long addictions to Nubain, it's horrible.
ben hart
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Hey Para, did the Wellbutrin help you with the withdrawl symptoms? Did you have any withdrawls? I know what you're talking about. I took pain meds everyday for about 4 years myself, after getting them for post back surgery. The pills never got me high. I just felt like I had elevated energy, and I could get things done during the day. When I didnt take them, I felt like I took a Flexeril. I had no energy to do anything, was irritable, and felt shitty 24/7.
GMTECH
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I had shoulder surgery a couple years back and was given percs and vicoden.
In my opinion they are the worst thing a person in the fitness game can use.
They are a demotivator they can inhibite gains they decrease appetite also the liver damage caused by all the tylenol in vicoden in large doses can be worse then dbol or anadrol. Of course everything should be taken in moderation but these things are evil. As one of the previous posts suggested painkillers will ruin your life just as bad as any rec. drug if not worse. I cant say that I wouldnt love to have a couple vics and a beer every day when I get off work. But arent we defeating the purpose of all the training and dieting by doing that.
REMEMBER NO PAIN NO GAIN
GMTECH
In my opinion they are the worst thing a person in the fitness game can use.
They are a demotivator they can inhibite gains they decrease appetite also the liver damage caused by all the tylenol in vicoden in large doses can be worse then dbol or anadrol. Of course everything should be taken in moderation but these things are evil. As one of the previous posts suggested painkillers will ruin your life just as bad as any rec. drug if not worse. I cant say that I wouldnt love to have a couple vics and a beer every day when I get off work. But arent we defeating the purpose of all the training and dieting by doing that.
REMEMBER NO PAIN NO GAIN
GMTECH
Fukkenshredded
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I think they are like anything else -- used properly and in moderation they are a good thing.
I personally prefer OC80s to anything else, save a good roll. But the fact is that opioids are EXTREMEMLY addictive,a nd it is NOT mind over matter -- it is a biological fact that dependency sets in eventually for everyone. The only question is the time it takes to manifest.
I agree that excessive opioid use can depersonalize the user, but I wonder if this is a side effect that is different from user to user. I have used a lot of painkillers in my time and they have never really been a problem (except heroin, which was a problem), but Ido go through withdrawals from time to time if I don't moderate my use and implement the wisdom I have gathered over the years. Chipping is easier said than done, and for most people I would think abstinence is the best policy when it comes to opioids.
An opioid habit is a major commitment.
I personally prefer OC80s to anything else, save a good roll. But the fact is that opioids are EXTREMEMLY addictive,a nd it is NOT mind over matter -- it is a biological fact that dependency sets in eventually for everyone. The only question is the time it takes to manifest.
I agree that excessive opioid use can depersonalize the user, but I wonder if this is a side effect that is different from user to user. I have used a lot of painkillers in my time and they have never really been a problem (except heroin, which was a problem), but Ido go through withdrawals from time to time if I don't moderate my use and implement the wisdom I have gathered over the years. Chipping is easier said than done, and for most people I would think abstinence is the best policy when it comes to opioids.
An opioid habit is a major commitment.
Themachine01
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I have used painkillers in the past on the weekends. I started using them when I didnt want to drink while dieting down. The good thing for me is that I have been using them on the weekends for about 5 years now, but only 1 or 2 nights per week and it has never became more than that, I am probably lucky that I was smart enough not to ever take them during the week, while at work, or on weeknights before work. I have always been nervous about addiction and fear it, which also helps.
Para_Shoot
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Ben Hart said:
I actually had about no energy and was not getting high anymore. You just don't get that "high" when you first start out. It snowballs into a process where you need the pills just to be, what you think, is "normal". Yes, the Wellbutrin helped totally with the tail end of my withdraw symptoms. Whatever you crave, wellbutrin makes you not crave it (Im talking about chemical dependance here, not sex..) Good point someone else brought out. These opiates, when taken consistently for a long time, definitly slow down your metabolism. Not to mention all the constipation! You ever have to rely on enemas twice a week just to empty out? I did, and as sick as it sounds, thats what happened. Here is a play by play of what happened to me. In May she sprung divorce on me cause she found out, for the second time, that I was doctor shopping again. Just a note here, I am 37yrs old, 5'11" and I weighed in at 260, all fat, hadn't been in a gym for 12 years. At end of May I told my doc about my little problem..He actually prescribed the same amount and strength of roxicodone as I was getting from one doctor, which was 240 tabs, 30mg each (8 a day). He told me I had to wean down or he would drop me as a patient (I have long time with this doc). For the month of June I weaned down. It was hard cause you have 240 pills in front of you but now you have to ration them, yourself. I actually had to do a piss test in beginning of july to prove to divorce lawyers that I was off the pills. The lady at piss place told me to ask my doc about dopamine and norepenepherine cause I had been on pills so long. On July 12th I asked my doc and he started me right on wellbutrin. When you first start wellbutrin, one of the side effects is a feeling like your on speed all the time, and that was true (which is what i suspect shoots your metabolism through the roof!). I started immediatly to drop weight. I also quit smoking (smoked for 5 years) when I started wellbut. Well butrin has the same stuff Zyban (Stop smoking drug) has in it. I started back in the gym July 30th, and I hit it hard, no juice. Cardio twice a day, 30 mins each, weights twice a day. You could say I was overtraining but I was on a mission. I was down to 230lbs in Sept. I started juice in end of September. All this time, and still to this day, I have been eating all the right stuff..oatmeal, chicken,fish,beef,sweet potatoe,peanut butter, veggies. Haven't had Mc Donalds (or any junk) in 8 months! The cardio started to kick in, the juice started to kick in, the wellbutrin was doing it's thing, and by December I was 199-200lbs, 7%BF, 6 pack for sure (even when your sitting on the toilet!). I am still at that weight/BF now. I have a great physique, and all the 19yr old enanthate abusers at my gym tell me they hope they look like me, and Im 37. I did my juice (prop/eq/winny) every 3 days but very small amounts. I took 200mg prop a week, 300mg eq a week and 100mg of winny a week (my week is 6 days, shots every 3 days. With a great body come great things...in the female department. You ever notice how the shadowing of a 6 pack looks in the bedroom (with a dim lite on) while she's gettin it from ya? I think I was staring at myself more that at her..enuff said!
mr. snakes
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JKurz1:
Only think i'm addicted to is GHB. I love that stuff, it knocks me out like a rock every night.
Only think i'm addicted to is GHB. I love that stuff, it knocks me out like a rock every night.
BigCracker
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Mr.X said:
I kicked a 3-4 bottle/wk Nubain Habit about 9 months ago. I used it for about 4 yrs. At 1st, I found it to be an incredible pre workout compound. Any exercise sounded like a great idea. Extra sets? Why not? I don't feel tired. This was all sub q injections until a BB friend of mine convinced me mainlining was the way to go. One bang and I was never gonna do the pussy sub q injection again. I started doing cardio AM in addition my normal PM workouts. I started using the Nubain to wake up-It was the bomb. A few months later I was taking a shot mid day, few months after that it turned into 3 shots midday for a daily total of 6-7. In the meantime the rest of my life started falling apart, but for some reason I didn't realize it until I had lost a considerable amount of $$$ and material things. I feel like the Nubain actually numbed the part of my brain that made me motivated to accomplish more than the next guy in earlier yrs of my life. I stopped giving a fuck about superficial shit being a slave to the needle made me feel like shit about myself. I never thought I'd be hooked, and since I quit cold turkey after so long, sometimes I wonder if I ever really was(and I was just being a wuss)? Anyway that sucked-but the worst part about getting off of it was that it came unexpected. My source had a family 911 and left town. I had one bottle to taper off with-which normally lasted me 1.5 days. I made it las 3 days. 24 hrs later WD's started kicking in. For 3 days I was sick, couldn't sleep and had stomach cramps. I had no appetitite. I felt like clenching my fists. I was cold and sweaty. My only relief was getting in the shower-which didn't help much. Over the next 4-5 weeks I started feeling better but no matter what I couldn't sleep more than 1-2 hrs/night. I felt like Tyler Durden in Fight Club. After awhile I got more and more nightly sleep. I also still thought about using it at least 3-4x a day for the next couple months. My old source has called me 2x in the past 9 months-I never returned his calls. No way I'm I taking that slippery slope again.
BigCracker
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mr. snakes said:
I used to fall asleep standing up on that stuff. I think possession of ghb is a nasty felony these days. And to think it used to be sold at GNC?
I prefer Roofies for my dates anyway.
sparetire
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Themachine01 said:
Not to sound like a prick, but if you have been taking pain medications for the past 5 years every weekend, you are addicted, you're just in denial. Eventually, it will catch up to you.
Most BB'rs who inject, were addicts at one point. That's sort of a fact that no one really wants to discuss. Hell, I admit that I used to do speed for about a year 1/2..that crap got ahold of me and ruined my life. But if we really think about it, we're all drug addicts if we're putting gear into our bodies, whether its good or bad for us in the long run..
dam..i think it's time for another injection! ;p lol..
TRYNGETBIG32
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i actually take 2 10/325 hydrocodone before chest and shoulder workouts due to shoulder pain actuallly seem to hype me up but thats just twice aweek.
I have had four shoulder surgeries in the last 2 1/2 years,. Formed a nasty addiction to perc 10. I had to give it up after I realized I was sitting at my desk in my office at 6:30am taking 10 at a time. I was eating 40 to 50 a day, every day all day long. I sought help from a surgeon friend who had gone through the same thing. The withdrawals were really bad. The physical withdrawals were short, but bad. Its the mental that were hard. I really believe that I could not have made it without the help of AA. It is easy to form a habbit with these, as they are readily available. I really liked the feeling I had on them, better than any achohol buzz. They are like any other drug, they will bring you crashing down, and everything around you with it. It almost devastated my marriage, my kids, my life. It is not worth it.
ben hart
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I got to the 30mg roxys myself. Won't say how many a day I took. Too embarassed, however I admire your incredible honesty. I'm reading your post thinking its me. Everything you said about the side affects and taking them just to feel normal, has happened to me. I have a live-in girlfriend for the past 3 years, who has no clue. If she found out, I'd be gone! I hate the lying. When we have sex, half the time I cant nut. She thinks that I'm not attracted to her, even though thats her in my avatar. A friend of mine told me about Subutex, but I cant get it anywhere. Glad you turned your life around bro.
bigjd69
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I have had 7 Ortho. Surgeys since 1994, including having my neck fused in 2003. I have been taking Hydrocodones off and on since then for the pain in my body, not to feel good. The most that I will take is 2 tabs a day when the pain is unbearable. After about a week of doing so I will stop for a week. I believe that we are born with an addictive personality, if you have one you had better be careful with any kind of Narcotics,Alcohol, or Steroids.
Para_Shoot
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Listen bro's, watch out for that Tramadol (Ultram). I know they say it's a non-opioid, but thats bullshit. Look at the chemical structure of it and the thing that looks like a "tail" hanging off in the picture of it's atoms. That "tail" piece is exactly the same thing opiates have. They say it doesn't latch onto the "mu" receptors (the ones opiods cling to) in the base of the brain..No, it attaches itself to a different receptor in the base. When you take too many tramadols and you feel like your "ridin the tram", you are! Tramadol is an easy pill to take one after the other. I was chemically addicted to tramadol also. I was taking 40-50 trams a day. Yes, it kills sex drive too. Tramadol withdraws are frikkin unique, but nonetheless very bad. All my joints in my fingers just ached when I didn't have any. The worst withdraw symptom, and the scariest, is double vision, and you can't shake it. I had to drive 40 miles home with no tramadol, having massive, very bad double vision. Kept one eye shut the whole way home. Ultram is addictave chemically if you abuse it, like me. Don't let anyone tell you different. I used my tramadol when I was withdrawing from my 30-40 a day roxicodone 30mg tablets. The ultram took away the withdraw symptoms, so tell me it's not an opioid..Trouble is, you gotta watch gettin hooked on them while comming off other narcotics. If you are quitting opiate pain pills, and you have no current addiction to ultram, I highly recommend it to deal with the opiate withdraw symptoms, but use a little as possible. I know it's one drug for the other, but you gotta put an end to it somehow.
Para_Shoot
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Actually, when I was hooked on opiates I was also taking ultram to supplement the "high" I could never seem to get anymore. Yes, I did use wellbutrin in the end to finally kick and get rid of the last stages of side effects, but I was taking ultrams too, earlier in the process to help with the real opiate withdraws that came at the beginning of detox. I figured that yes, ultrams are weaker than roxy's, so use them also as an aid to come down off detox.. Yeah..drugs for drugs, I know. But...the wellbutrin did it all. Had I known about it sooner, I'd have demanded it. Now that I look back, it's a sucky, shitty, home-wrecking,self-wrecking time while I was on the pills. THere are three things you have to do to help yourself, and thats the ONLY person that can really help you, yourself. One is admitting your hooked, two is getting help and three is to look back when you finally pull through and realize what you have done, so you hopefully never do it again. If I was a doctor right out of med school with all those student loans, I'd open up a pain management clinic, and get the word out that I freely distrubute narcotics, keeping everything documented for DEA of course. Man, you'd be a millionaire over and over and over...all those people hooked already will flock to you and pay you..over and over and over..
Para_Shoot
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Hey Ben, if you are looking to take something the "second" you decide to quit opiates, I'd definitly go with the tramadol (ultram). It will greatly, greatly take away alot of withdraw symptoms, but DON'T abuse the ultram. A little ativan in the mix will also do a good job of the anxeity. Wellbutrin takes a full month to do it's thing properly, but you notice it taking care of opiate cravings in the 2nd week. I believe methadone (is it dolophine I think) is a narcotic, even though I think it is synthesized in a lab. I don't know too much about methadone.
pound for pound
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scout69 said:
nah, you don't need it. I used to get anxiety attacks just thinking about an anxiety attack. It's a mental game. I weened myself off that shit after taking it for 3-4 years. I hated it. Within 3 months of not taking xanax, I lost 30 lbs. After 1 year of not taking xanax, I lost 80. I was in the gym the whole time while taking the xanax too. That shit is addictive period. I always thought the doc was full of shit for saying it was because I didn't like to take it, I thought I "needed" it. I didn't and I'm guessing you don't either. It's a good bandaid but it solves nothing. If this doesn't apply to you at all, my bad, maybe someone else will relate
reelbig004
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For those of you who are addicted to pain pills and trying to kick the habit, you should really look into a drug called saboxone (sp?). It is at the forefront of addiction medications. It is an excellent drug for killing cravings and unlike methadone, there is typically no need or very little need to continualy increase your dosage over time. It like welbutrin is also used for chronic pain. I have been attending Narcotics Anonymous meeting for different reasons and most of the people in the room swear by this drug. Most say it saved there lives. Doctors must have special training to perscribe this medication and doctors are limited to only having 30 patients on the medication at one time. I hope this helps some of you. Good Luck
bas4lizzife
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The problem is that the acetaminophen is relatively safe in the prescribed dosages for these drugs. So are you going to say 'hey doc, can you write a script for vicoprofen instead of vicoden? i'm going to eat the whole bottle when i get home and dont want the liver damage.'64Pilot said:
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racoon_city
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BigCracker said:
yea fuck that dont call hom back!!!
i abuse what ever i can get but casually on the weekends, i too am to afraid to be addicted or a slave to any drug besides gear...the most i ever ran a binge was 3 days,,i just couldnt see myself doing it ED.... so i enjoy on the weekends
Para_Shoot
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bixnij6 said:
I took 40-50 ultrams from about 7am to 1am, then immediatly drifted off into sedated sleep..I did this a lot, with those amounts, in and out of doing roxies and oxys. Mine were 50mg too. Two 50mg pills is not gonna get you hooked or do that much to you painkillin wise. It's when you are on your 15th one that your breathing really, really slows and you feel like something in the bottom of your mouth/jaw is tightning up. Very weird effects when on too much tramadol.
Heres another question:
When does it go from "just working out" -to- "serious bodybuilding"..cause you know it does. I think it is when you cross the line and that first needle of juice goes squirting into you. Things tend to get real serious then..don't they?
SwolK
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this is a good thread. i was timid to post on it at first. i have been clean for about 1.5 years now, after being addicted on and off for 4 years. it started out as fun, then 4 orthopedic operations, then abuse(because of easy access from the surgeries). It started out as only a weekend thing too. then after time it turned into more. everyone should be careful! someone asked about methadone, it is a opiate, but does not give the sides (high) that pain meds give. Therefore they prescribe it because it helps control the sides from not taking pain meds(becasue it is an opiate), and the person learns to live with out the high. then they slowly ween you off the methadone.
hope this helps, its a nasty addition and I still crave it all.
btw
percs are oxycodone
vicodin, lortabs are hydrocodone
oxycontin is like super oxycodone.
I see people (not here) refering to percs, and vicodin and others as the drug. percs and vicodin are brand names for the gereric drug oxycodon and hydrocodone. and yes, oxy is more powerful then hydro.
man, I could really go for some now
j/k, well kind of
hope this helps, its a nasty addition and I still crave it all.
btw
percs are oxycodone
vicodin, lortabs are hydrocodone
oxycontin is like super oxycodone.
I see people (not here) refering to percs, and vicodin and others as the drug. percs and vicodin are brand names for the gereric drug oxycodon and hydrocodone. and yes, oxy is more powerful then hydro.
man, I could really go for some now
j/k, well kind of
drrman
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SwolK said:this is a good thread. i was timid to post on it at first. i have been clean for about 1.5 years now, after being addicted on and off for 4 years. it started out as fun, then 4 orthopedic operations, then abuse(because of easy access from the surgeries). It started out as only a weekend thing too. then after time it turned into more. everyone should be careful! someone asked about methadone, it is a opiate, but does not give the sides (high) that pain meds give. Therefore they prescribe it because it helps control the sides from not taking pain meds(becasue it is an opiate), and the person learns to live with out the high. then they slowly ween you off the methadone.
hope this helps, its a nasty addition and I still crave it all.
btw
percs are oxycodone
vicodin, lortabs are hydrocodone
oxycontin is like super oxycodone.
I see people (not here) refering to percs, and vicodin and others as the drug. percs and vicodin are brand names for the gereric drug oxycodon and hydrocodone. and yes, oxy is more powerful then hydro.
man, I could really go for some now
j/k, well kind of
Bro, been there myself, just like your story, i used casually on weekends, thought it was nothing, said i could never be addicted, then a bad motorcycle wreck and three surgeries then i was laying around with nothing to do....I used to use G occassionally for fun on weekends, then i was using it everyday, the all the time, if no G the pain meds, whatever i had, i was in a fucking haze! I haven't taken any substance other than juice for almost a year now, best i've felt in years....Point being, the shit can sneak up on you, i was a weekend user for 5-6 years and next thing you know i considered myself an addict. I was in a fucking haze for months on end, hell i will watch a movie now i know i seen back during the haze and it seems like a brand new movie.....My point is these "pills" have no place in a healthy life or in bodybuilding besides if you need to deal with a valid injury. Be careful with this shit people, i used to think the stigma around all this stuff was bullshit.....but when you reach the bottom of the barrell, you REALIZE
ben hart
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Thanks Para and Swolk I'll look into it. Bodybuilding has always been a part of my life. Since my back injury and surgery, I've made excuses to pop pills. I too started to taking Vics for fun on the weekends. I could get a handful of 5/500s on Monday, put them on the shelf, and take them on saturday night. Now, I take them with my coffee as soon as I get up,all the way until I climb into bed. If I get them, I take them until their gone. 30mg Roxys. I've built up a tolerence so high, that taking 8 10mg Percs or Narco's won't even get rid of a mild headache. Its pathetic. I don't often look at myself in the mirror. Havent worked out in a year, even though I could.My prayers go out to all of you. I take some comfort knowing there are BBdrs like me that have delt with it. I'll be back in da game! You can count on it.
Para_Shoot
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Isn't that kind of amazing..when you build up such a high tolerance that 10 30mg roxicodones taken at one time just calms you down from being on edge from the last time you took ten..about 5 hours before. You put those 10 pills in someones drink (who doesn't take pain meds) and then your up on murder charges..Also, I am kinda new here..will someone please tell me what the word "bump" means in peoples posts. Thankx
Its amazing, this is just like an aa meeting or a na meeting. You read a story, and it sounds like yours. I do miss taking the pills. I miss the feeling. I do not miss not being able to nut, and my wife thinking it was because of her, the lying, the people you have to associate with to get your fix. Its a bad life style. But I sure miss that feeling of everything is great. I have been to the bottom because of perc 10, and I would not go back. I really want some pills now
SwolK
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bro,Ben Hart said:
you can do it. it is hard but worth it. I found that when i was trying to get off the pills, I could not have them around or i would take them. So get rid or them, give away, flush, dont take anymore after you finish what you have...do what ever you can to get rid of them. Seriously, if you are trying to quite you cant have them there just in case.. trust me
good luck
pm me if you need any help, support or advice
mesco
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i had a bad motorcycle accident about 3 years ago and just recently (2 months ago) was able to kick my vicodin habit. they were great while i was fucked up and i would eat 2 every 4-6 hours or so while i couldnt walk and they did the trick especially if i smoked some northern lights or nyc sour diesel with them.
gradaully i had to up my dosages cause i wasnt feeling anything from 2 and every 4-6 hours. before i knew it i was recovered from my accident but still hooked on the pills.
i liked how they made me feel and i ate them all day every day. i was eating 6-8 at a clip every 1-2 hours, eating them at work, while drinkin, while smokin weed, eating them with xanax, eating them with shrooms, percs, etc. they became a routine and i felt like i always needed to have that clouded feeling.
before i stopped for good, i could stop for a week or two and be cool but one of the last times i wasnt able to get some for a few weeks and i went thru the crazy withdrawals, sweating uncontrollably, sick stomach, shitting my brains out, etc and then thats when i realized i had to stop this shit. i had a few hard weeks but i can honestly say that i dont have a desire to eat them again and i have a bottle of 100 in my medicine cabinet now. i dont know if i was really addicted to them or that i just really liked them, lol but im loving all the money im saving now.
if you wanna kick it, you can and will, the desire has to be there though.
gradaully i had to up my dosages cause i wasnt feeling anything from 2 and every 4-6 hours. before i knew it i was recovered from my accident but still hooked on the pills.
i liked how they made me feel and i ate them all day every day. i was eating 6-8 at a clip every 1-2 hours, eating them at work, while drinkin, while smokin weed, eating them with xanax, eating them with shrooms, percs, etc. they became a routine and i felt like i always needed to have that clouded feeling.
before i stopped for good, i could stop for a week or two and be cool but one of the last times i wasnt able to get some for a few weeks and i went thru the crazy withdrawals, sweating uncontrollably, sick stomach, shitting my brains out, etc and then thats when i realized i had to stop this shit. i had a few hard weeks but i can honestly say that i dont have a desire to eat them again and i have a bottle of 100 in my medicine cabinet now. i dont know if i was really addicted to them or that i just really liked them, lol but im loving all the money im saving now.
if you wanna kick it, you can and will, the desire has to be there though.
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racoon_city
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is it wrong to enjoy them often? i dont see a problem unless its affecting your life negatively! i just pop a vicodien myself
mesco
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racoon_city said:
i dont think its wrong to enjoy them and i dont think it ever effected my life negatively i just didnt like that feeling when i stopped eating them and i knew my body was starting to depend on them. i used to eat hadnfuls of them and function normally all day long. im all for moderation.
drrman
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mesco said:
exactly, so be careful raccoon, i used to think nothing of taking vic's, xanax, etc, but there is a chance there that you may become dependent on them and you really won't know it until you stop taking them, run out, source dries up etc, then you will wish you didn't like them i promise you
ben hart
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Thanks Swolk. I may take you up on that. To all of you who are posting saying that you have it under control, and you just take them here and there, or on the weekends, BE CAREFUL! All of us who got hooked started off that way. I used to scoff at a close friend of mine who was hooked, when I wasnt, and would of bet my life that I wouldnt end up hooked. I'm not weak either, or have an addictive personality. If you're increasing the amount over time(months or years) your body is building up a tolernce, and building up a dependency of them, subconsiously. I took them for years for various injuries with absolutely no problems. Then, as I took them more for chronic pain over time, I began to build up a tolerence. If you take them for a long time, you WILL build up a tolerence. You cant control that. One day when I decided to clean my system out and stop, I couldnt. I stopped getting high off them a year ago. Now, I take them just to feel normal, and get through the day. Its disgusting. Its a lonely way of life. I will beat this! I'm already on my way.
